By the way, the guys I went after were drunk and yakked up out of their minds too. So even if I had a punch that could take a guy out one-on-one, the drugs really desensitized them and made them that much harder to put down.
I do remember hoping that their hearts would explode so I didn’t get my ass kicked so badly.
In hindsight that’s a pretty poor plan B.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
To Fisticuffs,
There is a distinction between the true “average guy” and the “average” who would participate in a gang/group assualt.
[/quote]
I agree 100%, with 6 average guys who tend to participate in those kinds of activities I wouldn’t give heavyweight much a chance either.
I don’t really want to weigh in on the issue of whether someone like Overeem could beat six guys, but the logic you are using to refute the argument is seriously flawed. Just because you could not fight with six guys does not mean that nobody can. That is like saying it is impossible to run 100 meters faster than 10 sec. Just because you yourself cannot do it.
[quote]partybison wrote:
I don’t really want to weigh in on the issue of whether someone like Overeem could beat six guys, but the logic you are using to refute the argument is seriously flawed. Just because you could not fight with six guys does not mean that nobody can. That is like saying it is impossible to run 100 meters faster than 10 sec. Just because you yourself cannot do it.[/quote]
Obviously. Chuck Norris could do it.
There is just to many variables here to predict what could happen.6 guys …what if one is a decent wrestler and clinch long enough on a heavyweight for others to drag him down and finish him? or if just one is a lunatic and throws himself into heavyweight legs while the heavyweight is overwhelmed by others and tries to rip his balls off or bite the chunk of his thight off.
Or what if a heavyweight knocks one out with the first punch and jumps on his neck killing him and the others shit their pants?
[quote]partybison wrote:
I don’t really want to weigh in on the issue of whether someone like Overeem could beat six guys, but the logic you are using to refute the argument is seriously flawed. Just because you could not fight with six guys does not mean that nobody can. That is like saying it is impossible to run 100 meters faster than 10 sec. Just because you yourself cannot do it.[/quote]
I don’t think that is an accurate representation of the “argument”.
It isn’t “I couldn’t do it, so no one can.” In other words trying to make an n=1 represent all possible cases.
The “argument” is that 6 to 1 odds are so heavily weighted against the single combatant that expecting anything favorable(like in the movie) is pretty much dependent on luck.
The saving grace for the single combatant is perhaps the group is either really unwilling or simply horrible at being violent. Of course an argument could be made that if not all 6 are out for blood than it really isn’t 6 against 1. In my opinion bet the “half dozen guys” EVEN IF the one guy is Overeem.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]SKELAC wrote:
There is just to many variables here to predict what could happen.6 guys …what if one is a decent wrestler and clinch long enough on a heavyweight for others to drag him down and finish him? or if just one is a lunatic and throws himself into heavyweight legs while the heavyweight is overwhelmed by others and tries to rip his balls off or bite the chunk of his thight off.
Or what if a heavyweight knocks one out with the first punch and jumps on his neck killing him and the others shit their pants? [/quote]
Very true.
In my mind there are a lot of ways the “one” gets the worst of it and only a few where he “wins”.
Hence why so many of us are throwing the “best not try it” advice.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
By the way, the guys I went after were drunk and yakked up out of their minds too. So even if I had a punch that could take a guy out one-on-one, the drugs really desensitized them and made them that much harder to put down.
I do remember hoping that their hearts would explode so I didn’t get my ass kicked so badly.
In hindsight that’s a pretty poor plan B.
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RE: the billiard ball
You fucking guys on the coast must have money to burn being able to break up a set like that.
Hoping the cocaine made them gas early, well if it’s the best you’ve got…
Next time remember the “technique” from this thread.(top of the page)
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]zerocharisma wrote:
I htink all you small guys are giving up on the benefit that this potential guy
is a heavyweight.
Size and strength alone should be enough to keep 6 measly 170lbers at bay.
also dont forget- he would have a reach advantage- and who knows how good his BJJ game is.
[/quote]
Obvious troll is obvious
ufc traned fighter wins this everytime with his jits yo…ossssss
In all seriousness though, I think overeem beats irish and 5 of his friends 99 times outta 99 times
someone like fedor/ubereem/dos santos vs 6 unarmed tommy-tough-nuts? my money is on the gladiator! 6 unarmed joe blows vs. anyone on these forums? hmmmmmmmm
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
someone like fedor/ubereem/dos santos vs 6 unarmed tommy-tough-nuts? my money is on the gladiator! 6 unarmed joe blows vs. anyone on these forums? hmmmmmmmm[/quote]
You’d lose all your money homey. Me and you should wager more.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
someone like fedor/ubereem/dos santos vs 6 unarmed tommy-tough-nuts? my money is on the gladiator! 6 unarmed joe blows vs. anyone on these forums? hmmmmmmmm[/quote]
You’d lose all your money homey. Me and you should wager more.[/quote]
Judging by your boxing video he wouldn’t lose a cent.
I am amazed this conversation has lasted this long. Unless I come across someone who is an absolute dickhead, I try to view other peoples responses with the attitude of learning something new. On this topic, its like panning the ocean for a nugget of gold. Most of the “pro” responses seem to be based on “Call of Duty”, Modern Warfare", or,“MMA Cage Fights” etc. not on a real life and death situation, and that is what 6 on 1 is, not a match or a movie, or a ring or cage, but, death staring you in the face. May you never find yourself in that situation.
[quote]idaho wrote:
I am amazed this conversation has lasted this long. Unless I come across someone who is an absolute dickhead, I try to view other peoples responses with the attitude of learning something new. On this topic, its like panning the ocean for a nugget of gold. Most of the “pro” responses seem to be based on “Call of Duty”, Modern Warfare", or,“MMA Cage Fights” etc. not on a real life and death situation, and that is what 6 on 1 is, not a match or a movie, or a ring or cage, but, death staring you in the face. May you never find yourself in that situation.
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In fairness Jim rescued the learning something new with his “ninja monkey” post. He also beat my Grolar bear gambit.
It was a somewhat tongue in cheek question, I thought, that has been answered both seriously and jokingly. I hope that anyone serious about such a problem who needed/sought a real answer takes your posts, along with Irish, Sento, Jim, WhiteFlash, and others as gospel and giggles appropriately at the comedy. Normally that is the strong suit of this board. Actual, serious advice and enough humor to make it worth reading/not seem like a contest about who is more High Speed Low Drag.
If nothing else it got you contributing and thank you for your additions.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hey my front tooth got chipped during my incident as well. Something about multiple attackers and busting teeth seems to go together. [/quote]
Haha, like pb&j. As I was squaring off with a couple of dudes I got cracked in the back of the head with something blunt and hard (no clue what it was, never saw it coming), went down and had a handful of dudes proceed to beat the shit out of me and throw me face first into a fire hydrant. The best advice in all of this is don’t put yourself in a position where you’ll be outnumbered. Actually, just don’t put yourself in a position where shit can violently escalate, regardless of number of participants.[/quote]
That happened to a guy I used to know. Bad drug deal, he got out of the car, and BOOM. Brick to the back of the head, he woke up in the hospital with a gash that left a SERIOUS scar.
Another time - and this is why its so easy to bang around one guy if you’re part of the mob - my buddy was just AROUND a street brawl, not even involved, when the kid who was trying to fight a bunch of people popped my buddy in the mouth by mistake.
My buddy grabbed a cue ball in a sock that somebody else had brought, cracked the kid who punched him in the face, and left.
Game over son.
Being a UFC fighter is one thing. Being someone who truly doesn’t give a fuck is quite another.[/quote]
Man, we could trade stories for days. When you grow up as a knucklehead chances are you have knuckleheaded friends, and shit can get weird FAST. I like your last line, and Robert’s line about the difference between the average guy and the average guy who’d partake in jumping some dude 6-on-1. Having the ability to throw a knockout punch is MILES AWAY from the ability to put a cinder block into someone’s face.
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Honest question; was it really a cue ball?
I have never heard or seen of a cue ball being what gets loaded into a sock in real life.
Combo locks, pad locks, marbles, whatever sure…never the cue ball.
I am thinking most places I have been anyone bad enough to walk away with the cue ball doesn’t need it.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Can’t believe you have not heard of a cue ball been loaded into a sock and used as a weapon you must have lived a sheltered life.In the UK its a very common weapon especially in prison or juvi where obviously weapons are sparse.
[quote]Dabullll wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hey my front tooth got chipped during my incident as well. Something about multiple attackers and busting teeth seems to go together. [/quote]
Haha, like pb&j. As I was squaring off with a couple of dudes I got cracked in the back of the head with something blunt and hard (no clue what it was, never saw it coming), went down and had a handful of dudes proceed to beat the shit out of me and throw me face first into a fire hydrant. The best advice in all of this is don’t put yourself in a position where you’ll be outnumbered. Actually, just don’t put yourself in a position where shit can violently escalate, regardless of number of participants.[/quote]
That happened to a guy I used to know. Bad drug deal, he got out of the car, and BOOM. Brick to the back of the head, he woke up in the hospital with a gash that left a SERIOUS scar.
Another time - and this is why its so easy to bang around one guy if you’re part of the mob - my buddy was just AROUND a street brawl, not even involved, when the kid who was trying to fight a bunch of people popped my buddy in the mouth by mistake.
My buddy grabbed a cue ball in a sock that somebody else had brought, cracked the kid who punched him in the face, and left.
Game over son.
Being a UFC fighter is one thing. Being someone who truly doesn’t give a fuck is quite another.[/quote]
Man, we could trade stories for days. When you grow up as a knucklehead chances are you have knuckleheaded friends, and shit can get weird FAST. I like your last line, and Robert’s line about the difference between the average guy and the average guy who’d partake in jumping some dude 6-on-1. Having the ability to throw a knockout punch is MILES AWAY from the ability to put a cinder block into someone’s face.
[/quote]
Honest question; was it really a cue ball?
I have never heard or seen of a cue ball being what gets loaded into a sock in real life.
Combo locks, pad locks, marbles, whatever sure…never the cue ball.
I am thinking most places I have been anyone bad enough to walk away with the cue ball doesn’t need it.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Can’t believe you have not heard of a cue ball been loaded into a sock and used as a weapon you must have lived a sheltered life.In the UK its a very common weapon especially in prison or juvi where obviously weapons are sparse.[/quote]
Very cool!
How about broomstick handle hidden in your jacket sleeve? :))) got to love the 90ies! :))
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
someone like fedor/ubereem/dos santos vs 6 unarmed tommy-tough-nuts? my money is on the gladiator! 6 unarmed joe blows vs. anyone on these forums? hmmmmmmmm[/quote]
You’d lose all your money homey. Me and you should wager more.[/quote]
Judging by your boxing video he wouldn’t lose a cent.[/quote]
Feel free to put anything up yourself tough guy.
Why do you even post on this board? You don’t contribute anything of use, ever, to any fighter or martial artist on this board.
[quote]Dabullll wrote:
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hey my front tooth got chipped during my incident as well. Something about multiple attackers and busting teeth seems to go together. [/quote]
Haha, like pb&j. As I was squaring off with a couple of dudes I got cracked in the back of the head with something blunt and hard (no clue what it was, never saw it coming), went down and had a handful of dudes proceed to beat the shit out of me and throw me face first into a fire hydrant. The best advice in all of this is don’t put yourself in a position where you’ll be outnumbered. Actually, just don’t put yourself in a position where shit can violently escalate, regardless of number of participants.[/quote]
That happened to a guy I used to know. Bad drug deal, he got out of the car, and BOOM. Brick to the back of the head, he woke up in the hospital with a gash that left a SERIOUS scar.
Another time - and this is why its so easy to bang around one guy if you’re part of the mob - my buddy was just AROUND a street brawl, not even involved, when the kid who was trying to fight a bunch of people popped my buddy in the mouth by mistake.
My buddy grabbed a cue ball in a sock that somebody else had brought, cracked the kid who punched him in the face, and left.
Game over son.
Being a UFC fighter is one thing. Being someone who truly doesn’t give a fuck is quite another.[/quote]
Man, we could trade stories for days. When you grow up as a knucklehead chances are you have knuckleheaded friends, and shit can get weird FAST. I like your last line, and Robert’s line about the difference between the average guy and the average guy who’d partake in jumping some dude 6-on-1. Having the ability to throw a knockout punch is MILES AWAY from the ability to put a cinder block into someone’s face.
[/quote]
Honest question; was it really a cue ball?
I have never heard or seen of a cue ball being what gets loaded into a sock in real life.
Combo locks, pad locks, marbles, whatever sure…never the cue ball.
I am thinking most places I have been anyone bad enough to walk away with the cue ball doesn’t need it.
Regards,
Robert A[/quote]
Can’t believe you have not heard of a cue ball been loaded into a sock and used as a weapon you must have lived a sheltered life.In the UK its a very common weapon especially in prison or juvi where obviously weapons are sparse.[/quote]
Thing is…the “cue ball in the sock” has never been an actual cue ball.
Heard of it, yes.
But it is always a cue ball substitute(pad locks, combination locks, just a rock, etc.) and not an actual honest to goodness cue ball.
Of course maybe billiards just isn’t as popular around here so old broken up sets of balls are rarer than hen’s teeth.
Regards,
Robert A