Heavy Squats and Great Judo

Then you wopuld have done the wrong thing. If a push is all that is required, throwing a punch is a stupid escalation of violence.

Kdjohn said punching involves triple extension. I remember him clearly saying that. @kdjohn

The squat is the very definition of what a triple extension is. Dude, come on.

I am not an expert, but I can link an article that specifically says that any sport that involves running and jumping is, in fact, a sport that has triple extension in it. Heck, even sumo wrestlers are doing triple extension.

Jeez, dude. It’s been said a million times. Do what you want, but stop using the things you’re not willing to give up as justification for doing other things you want. You know nothing about boxing, judo, or self-defense in general, and every time you talk about what your true goal is, it’s different than the last time you told us.

Also, Bob Sapp has had his ass beat by a laundry list of people half his size.

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Umm, no it isn’t. You achieve triple extension in O-lifting, but if you do it squatting then you are doing it wrong. Seriously. And where, exactly, in the Phillipinnes are you? I’m fascinated that there would be anywhere there with actual disability benefits.

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You aren’t also on Reddit under “Heavy Squats and Great Boxing”, are you? just sayin’ I smell a Troll.

Well, in that case I disagree with him.

Punching is rotational, triple extension is sagittal. They’re fundamentally different

You ever had calf DOMS from squatting?

Squatting does not involve significant enough active plantarflexion to be considered true triple extension

Go ahead, watch some slow motion film of high performers in literally any sport and get back to me

I’m an American citizen with a Philipino heritage. I live in Idaho.

I don’t go to reddit for fitness-related discussions.

Dude, my goal have always been the same. To squat a lot.

I mean, what am I gonna say? Am I really gonna say that because my goal is to squat big weights, I’m now only gonna focus on that and nothing else? Just look at the title of this thread. It went from “Great Boxing” to “Great Judo”. “Heavy Squats” didn’t go away. If I wanted to be a boxer above everything else, I would have retitled it as “Conditioning and Great Boxing” since endurance is more important in boxing than brute strength. But I didn’t do it.

My goal is to squat big weights. But I don’t feel the need to not venture out on things that won’t mess with that goal. I also wanna graduate college and play video games. And what is martial arts? I’m 29 years old. No way I’m gonna be some elite fighter in any combat sport when all of the competition are in the prime of their lives and have been training since very young. It doesn’t mean I won’t pursue the goal of being a better fighter.

I know you remember this. I mentioned I wanted a freaky back. I still hold on to that goal. Working on squat numbers, building a freaky back, and being a good grappler are all complementary. If I was some child prodigy who was meant to be the greatest athlete in a certain sport given the right environment, then of course I would abandon other activities. But I’m not that kid.

Robert Greene once talked about the power of “Concentrating your forces”. Flappinit, you seem to believe in that law a lot whether or not you’ve read Robert Greene’s works. But there are exceptions to every rule. For my sake, I can’t do just one thing in my life and nothing else because… If I dedicate my whole life into, say, becoming the strongest squatter I can possibly be, what will I do the rest of the time? It’s not like adding more time in training and eating more food and getting more massages is gonna magically give me a bigger squat. What will I do the rest of the time? Fantasize about squatting?

I need variety for the sake of sanity. ESPECIALLY since I’m diagnosed with a mental illness. lol

Also, I’ve said it here before but I’ll say it again. Napoleon Bonaparte is my hero, and one of his qualities that made him stand out literally even among other great leaders and statesmen was his ability to compartmentalize his life. The kind of guy where his wife would cheat on him, get devastated, and then 30 minutes later he’s repairing a damaged artillery gun and telling his men to work as hard as he is. That’s what I’m trying to emulate.

Doug Hepburn himself has said that there is more to life than just exercising. And Doug Hepburn is the grandfather of modern powerlifting. A true hero.

A cross involves extending the ankle, the leg, and the hip. A jab wouldn’t be triple extension, but a cross would be. A squat, on the other hand, is definitely not the “literal definition” of triple extension.

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Y’all have a lot of patience, this is absurd.

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Fair enough, in all models I’ve seen triple extension is a sagittal motion. My understanding was that in a cross the hip will internally rotate and extend, the ankle will plantarflex, but the knee stay relatively bent, preventimg a full triple extension. Additionally if you’ve unweighted the back foot and got “front foot heavy,” the plantarflexion that occurs on the back leg would not contribute to force production. I’ll have to dig into some more info on it, as I haven’t looked at punching much, but to me the rules are the same (or at least extremely similar) between punching, throwing, and exiting a cut

It’s the MOVEMENT that matters, not the muscles taxed. If I may ask, what sport do you train in? If, say, you train in the 100-meter dash, you won’t say “Okay, I need to develop my hamstrings because I need strong and fast-twitchy hamstrings for faster speed, therefore leg curls would make me win”. No. Instead, you train by sprinting itself, becoming efficient with the MOVEMENT.

With squats, calves aren’t taxed but they are still part of the movement, the same way that part of being a good squatter is using abdominal bracing even though the abs aren’t taxed with the squat. It’s the MOVEMENT and the MOTOR PATTERN that counts, not the muscles taxed.

Pause at 00:38.

lol

What you’re seeing there is hip extension driving knee extension due to something called Lombard’s paradox

Watch from 0:45. Acceleration occurs from hip extension, and hip extension in turn drives knee extension.

Certain olympic lifters demonstrate triple extension, but that doesn’t mean triple extension is a requirement to excel in O-lifting in any sport. Instead, triple extension is something that incidentally occurs due to the timing, position and most often coaching of the athlete.

Moreover, go to any sport outside o-lifting (where triple extension is actively coached) and top performers never triple extend. That’s because, as Lasha demonstrates, the hip almost always drives knee extension in explosive movement. Hip extension occurs before knee extension, and the knee doesnt necessarily fully extend in a vasy majority of cases. This is why I don’t believe triple extension carries over to the vast majority of sports.

Go pick another sport btw - one where triple extension isn’t coached into athletes - and see what you find

I’m an S+C coach working with:

  • Rugby union
  • Rugby league
  • Swimming (all strokes and distances)
  • Volleyball
  • Basketball
  • Sprints and hurdles
  • Long jump, high jump and triple jump
  • Javelin, discus and shot put

I train myself like a rugby player, because that’s my favourite sport

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Yeah well your face is a Lombard’s Paradox…

Just kidding. You had me beat. lol. In both your reasoning and your credentials.

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Why don’t you just keep squatting and buy a knife/gun to defend yourself with? If you keep squatting and just get bigger and stronger then no one is gonna grab your girl’s ass in the first place. If you do get mugged, there will usually be multiple attackers and they’ll be carrying weapons - attempting to engage them with grappling will get you killed pretty quick.

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:astonished::astonished::astonished::astonished:

You monster!!!

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If that happens, I’ll carry my girlfriend on my shoulders and run away from danger using the strong legs and posterior chain that I gained through squats and clean-pulls.

It makes sense too because I’m not a chubby chaser. My girlfriend would be light so I’ll sprint faster than Usain Bolt.

You’re missing out

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I grew up in Philippines and I still live with my Philipino mom. I get enough fatty pork belly, thank you very much. We fry that stuff with skin still attached.

Nah man. This more the kind of girl I’m looking for…

https://images.app.goo.gl/KdLYzddnA7EAJKEv9

Yeah, I’m looking for a woman with that caliber of beauty.