I agree, ultimately I just have to get on it and see how I feel and what my labs look like. I’ve been fairly lucky with lipids so far in life, so hopefully they won’t take too much punishment.
Are you saying you can’t wait to get back on mostly for the strength/body comp effects, or mood/sex drive?
Do you have a family of heart issues? Lipid related? If not feel free to give Anavar a real test.
On my TRT does Anavar give me more strength at the bench and my pumps last for up to 3 days.
It is hard to explain. I workout 5 days a week 60-90 minutes pushing heavy weights. By Thursday morning I wake up and my whole body has a hard on not just my dick because I need to pee. It is the best feel I have ever had next to getting off with my lady. Many say Anavar is the King of orals and I believe it. This mush be why is is so dam expensive.
That sounds amazing, I’ve said before that I would give a lot to be able to keep a pump 24/7.
No history of anything in my family so far, parents are 80yo and very healthy, good cholesterol, strong heart, etc…
Still don’t want to mess too much with a good thing as I’d like to live as long as possible while feeling good. But I got the Var from a compounding pharmacy with a script, so it should be legit and I can’t wait to try.
Nice. I’d ask you to post a picture of your anavar but our forum leader does not seem to like pictures, well at least he is always deleting mine, when I try to add a bit of color or interest in a thread. Maybe it costs him money for the added bandwidth, that I don’t pay for, I don’t know. Everyone in my day liked a picture to an article over plain text.
Have you tried daily cialis? 5mg and I get a pump picking my remote up
Haha, that sounds exactly like what I need.
I’ve been thinking about it for a bit, I think my main worry is long term tolerance, the cialis not working as well over time and then not being able to get as hard with or without it. But it’s supposed to have lots of good benefits, I think including working as a slight AI which would probably be good for me.
If you’re getting pumps 24/7, it honestly might push me over the edge.
I agree, I like pictures too. Honestly though it’s pretty underwhelming in this case. It’s just a typical slightly transparent orange bottle with capsules filled with white powder inside and a sticker with my prescription on the bottle.
Looks like any other bottle of pills from a compounding pharmacy.
That sounds like something a compounding pharmacy would do. I wonder why they are starting you out so low? I am not very smart on HGH. I have read 2IU were considered a base amount and 4 - 10 was used in bodybuilding. When one would use 4 and 10 I have no idea.
My plan is to run 4 for a month keep my TRT level and no extra anything. I need to do a mini blood tests in about two weeks for other issues. I don’t think the HGH will change any of the bloods I need to see. When this 100IUs is gone I need to decide if I want to add HGH to my next blast. I am thinking 500 TE/w, 20mg Anavar/day, 4IU HGH, HCG and anastrzole as needed.
The HGH is through another doc, the anti-aging clinic requires a real GH stimulation test to prescribe GH and I clearly don’t have true adult GH deficiency, so I had to find a doc who’s willing to diagnose that just based on low-ish IGF-1 levels, and mine are legit below average (probably average for a 40+yo man, though).
I think it’s common to start at 0.6iu/day and build up to almost 2iu/day over a few months’ time in the context of a doc prescription.
My personal belief is 1iu is real replacement, 2iu is already optimization, probably equivalent to 200mg/week of Test for TRT. I think in general people probably take more stuff than necessary, but I’ve also seen on BB’ing forums that typically you need more from generics compared to pharma GH. Not sure how true that is.
I’m planning to run the GH for life, so I don’t think I’ll go above 2iu/day, and maybe save the higher doses potentially for if I break my leg or something and want to heal as fast as possible.
But I wouldn’t be comfortable running more than 2iu/day of pharma GH year round, and honestly probably not even that much. I’ll see what my IGF-1 levels look like over the next few months.
I’m going slowly throughout this entire HRT process. Maybe too slowly/cautiously, but I’m trying to not mix too many variables as I go along so I can get a good sense for what’s doing what, both in terms of positive and negative side effects.
Although i’m not gonna lie, at this point I have everything in my medicine cabinet (Test, GH, Preg, DHEA, Anavar, LSD), and I’m tempted sometimes to just say fuck it and start blasting everything at once.
I haven’t heard that this happens yet. Especially with a small dose. If you need 100mg before every encounter then I could see that having an impact (especially mentally) when/if you stop taking it
Sounds right
Why? Is this the microdosing prospect or do you want to get high? Have you taken LSD before? This substance is nothing to scoff at.
Anavar doesn’t belong in a traditional TRT regiment unless you have some form of illness induced cachexia. If you want to blast, that’s fine; but Anavar and longevity don’t mix.
My wife (62) has been prescribed 5mgx2/day of Anavar year-round for the joint pain caused by RA. Her lipids have hardly moved in fact her Tri went down. I posted her before and after lipids here in pharma. In studhammers HGH How to Guide if you want to look at them.
In my bloodwork, the normal range is 0-3 and my natural GH was 0,5… 2-3 hours after taking 1iu of GH, my blood shows around 10… so 6 hours after injecting it would be 5, 9 hours after it would be 2,5 and 12 hours after it would be 1,25… so im doing 1iu twice a day and id like to think that most of my day is spent in three or two times above any normal range, and later on its still much more than my normal level. Since im taking it for longevity and anti aging hopefuly, i dont see the point to take more.
For actual muscle growth it can go as high as 10 or even 20… But then again, most bodybuilders say that it is not really worth the cost. Even Dave Palumbo said your money would be better spent on just more test…
I also would be scared of HGH sides if dosages are so high, like actual tumor growth and speed up of cancer cells.
2ius a day show almost no risks of side effects.
Thanks for the numbers, that’s good to know. I always felt people were exaggerating when saying that 2iu/day is just replacement. There was a funny but sobering post on reddit’s steroids sub from a guy saying that it was the biggest drug pushing sub on the internet, and how 1iu/day of legit GH is already a lot.
I’m also in it for the anti-aging/healing/recovery benefits and don’t see the point in risking long term negative side effects and then have to stop entirely.
As far as 10-20iu/day for muscle growth, MPMD has an interesting video where he goes over a study showing significantly diminishing returns for anything over 6iu/day. Someone on here also posted a study showing 90% diminishing returns past 40 or 60mg/day Anavar.
I really think there’s something to be said for “less is more”. Up to a certain point of course, 500mg of Test is going blow 200mg out of the water (and shove that water inside you, but that’s another problem)
A friend of mine leaving the country just gave me 30 tabs of it on his way out. I’ve done mushrooms 7-8 times when I was younger and loved it.
I was thinking of trying microdosing a bit to rewire myself in some ways (reward system, mostly), and maybe a “real” trip here and there. Never done LSD but I have some experience with psychedelics.
Thanks for reminding me of this (no sarcasm). The plan with Anavar is to try to run a low dose on top of true TRT (125mg/week) + 1-2iu/day GH, start with 10mg/day for 6 weeks and see what my blood work looks like, how I feel, what I get out of it, etc…
If everything looks and feels good, maybe run a small cycle like that once or twice a year with the hope of keeping most of the gains thanks to the permanent TRT.
Thanks, that’s a valuable data point I’m definitely keeping in mind. The remote control pump is not something I’m gonna forget any time soon either.
The problem with the replacement idea is that GH has very short half life, so injecting it only twice a day is not enough… i think in order to “replace” and be at the high end all day you would need to inject like 0.2 or 0.3 every 4-5 hours…
1iu could not be really replacing because at least 12-14 hours of the day you would be on no GH anyways. But taking 1iu twice a day puts you way over normal range for at least 6-8 totals hours of the day. Go figure…
And her HDL actually went up also if I remember correctly.
Interesting. Do you know if IGF-1 levels stay stable though? I think the reason we don’t test actual GH levels is that they’re only high when your pituitary is pulsing the GH, the rest of the time they’re low, but IGF-1 levels are much more consistent and therefore a better marker to look at.
I think I’ve read/heard somewhere that IGF-1 levels stay pretty much constant 24/7 after a few weeks of exogenous GH, but I could be wrong. There’s a paper where they concluded that evening injections of GH most closely mimic natural production. Here it is: Evening versus morning injections of growth hormone (GH) in GH-deficient patients: effects on 24-hour patterns of circulating hormones and metabolites - PubMed
The choice was only between evening and morning, so maybe several daily injections would be better, but I don’t think the pituitary is naturally pulsing at regular intervals throughout the 24 hours during the day.