I enjoy the various levels that this statement works on.
It’s like Austin but with Jerry Jones. ![]()
How do you spell Oedipus again?
Nah man. People with self respect don’t need to sleep with people they have power over. Maybe you’ll learn that some day, but I doubt it.
Makes point.
Gets proved wrong.
Moves goalposts.
Repeat ad infinitum.
I’m on limited time right now, but I’ll address this for now. No, it can’t be applied to the USA at large, but it already occurs on a small scale. I mean, the communities I mentioned–and I don’t mean communities defined according to physical boundaries, but rather by ethnic ties–I lived and worked amongst their members. They are not organized by state intervention. That’s what I mean by up-close. As I’ve said before, one of my closest friends, of 31 years, is Asian. And anything the groups who have practices that I’d want to or actually do or will mimic is obviously from respect and admiration.
Yeah, pretty much what I was saying. You do know that even “Asians” can comprise of multiple races further broken down culturally by country of origin, region within each country, spoken languages and dialect groups, religion and sub divisions, social class(e,g, caste system in India) and more, right? These can differ substantially and amount to over a hundred different groups if the population gets large enough in the future.
I have very few similarities with a Chinese raised in Northern China, much less with a Korean, and zero with an Arab so the term “Asian” means nothing to me outside of the West. So, the question is, will this prevent assimilation, leading to more social harm in the long run? You can easily take a look at racial politics in more ethnically diverse parts of Asia, and religious politics in countries with the same races divided by religious factions to get an idea of this.

I think my husband would disagree with you, because his guy friends lack some of the qualities I bring to the table.
I suspect the posters stating that their wives out earn them and that they’re perfectly happy with it would say the same.
Why are you fighting to protect your grim worldview when the people ahead of you, out in the trenches, are reporting back that all is well?
I think well-adjusted people are threatened by very little in other people, short of actual threats, e.g. someone has pulled a gun.
Self-respect buttresses us against intimidation from external sources. Are there people brighter than me, more successful than me, in better shape than me? Sure, but so what? I can either ignore them or view their achievements as goals. It’s silly to sit around wishing I could be brilliant or wealthy, but it’s not silly to observe someone’s style and think I’d like to move toward that look, maybe rethink my wardrobe.
People of Asian descent are outperforming every ethnic group in the US at just about everything. Scholastic achievement, income, marital success, life span, children born in wedlock etc…
With exactly zero hours of study I’d attribute this mostly to:
- Stable families and traditional values in the culture.
- Higher expectations for youth.
- A culture of accountability and shame if you fail (hence the crazy high suicide rate for Japanese students).
Lol, ya… My guy friends are great, but, they’ve got dicks so…
It’s just such a weird thought anyway. Cooking, cleaning, & working are scratching the surface of a real relationship. Intimacy with a woman and intimacy with a friend is such a different thing.
I’ve started two business in three years. One was an abysmal failure. My current venture has made $87.57 on 30 sales with two pending transactions. I’m no Elon Musk, lol and I put more effort into this side hustle than my full-time bill-paying job. All because those guys have created and I want to create. It gives me more of a purpose than the analysis I’m working on right now. It would be really easy to be jealous of them. Instead, my goal is to strive to be like them in my own way. Not to be them.
You also have to take the following into consideration:
Asian immigrants are the ones, and the offspring of the ones, who had the pro-activeness, foresight and balls to get out of their countries to seek better opportunities elsewhere. It’s really no surprise that they’re outperforming locals.
Asian students who go to the US for tertiary studies and eventually settle down in the US are normally from more well-to-do families in their country of origin. Look at the exchange rates for their currency and PPP in their respective countries. The upbringing for these kids are a lot different from those from poor families.
Expatriates from the US living in my country are 90% upper middle class and above. Their kids are well brought up, go to private schools and get good grades that exceed most of the locals.
I’m pretty much of a beneficiary of this. My grandparent’s modest condo was sold for nearly $800,000 and paid in cash! A condo, a nice place, but certainly not a luxurious one. My uncle thinks we could have gotten more considering how agreeable and eager the buyers were in their negotiation.
I’ll give you another example. Canada saw a large influx of Chinese from Hong Kong in the 80s and 90s because of fear of the handover of the country from the British to China in 1997. There was a shitload of fear at the time. The ones who could get Canadian passports and had the resources to migrate were usually more well-to-do than the average Hong Kong citizen. You know how strict Canada’s immigration policies were at that time? One of the most famous actors in HK at the time had his application for Canadian citizenship rejected because he starred in a couple of movies produced by members of the triad lol.
Have you watched Russell Peters do his parody of the “Chinese accent”. That’s not a Chinese accent. It’s an accent native to Hong Kong and Cantonese speakers.
In his defense, he is the one that keeps telling you to become someone women would WANT to be with.
You come off as someone who refuses to change and expects to get rewarded for it.
I think at this point GB is simply screwing with people. His posts go from straight up serious to just throwing stuff out there. Some of its funny. ![]()
Agree. I also think he’s missing the intimacy that comes from doing some of these things together, whether the intimacy is built on shared pleasure or mutual dislike. Last night I made a salad, my husband cooked ribeyes, and we both took part in the roasted asparagus. This occurred because I caught him sort of hiding off to the side getting the asparagus ready, and was like “whoa, that’s a lot of oil!” He acknowledged that it was and that he’d hoped that I wouldn’t see, then offered that I could salt and pepper it. Deal! Because I love me some salt. So we basically had deep fried, over-salted asparagus, which we ate together in good cheer. I think that’s intimacy. Of course you can cook with your same-sex friends and have the same kind of intimacy, but unless you’re gay you’re not finishing out the night with physical intimacy, which is of course also pleasurable. I think this scene could have as easily played out in a good marriage with a stay-at-home wife, but it would not occur in a superior/inferior relationship, which is what greenboy describes.
I’ve started one business in the past year and it is wildly exceeding expectations. However, I’m not sure failure would have dampened my spirits much. I loved the process of learning and implementing, and would have accepted failure as an outcome while still feeling I’d gained something valuable, even if that was only a greater appreciation of organizational work.
You choose a goal and chase it. I did the same thing when I looked to TNation years ago for help understanding and reacting to what I was encountering in the dating world. Back when there were PM’s I was getting advice from Angry Chicken, because he’s a top-level player and I had a lot of questions. He and I may have had idealogical differences (red pill guy and PUA for those of you not here when he was active) but he was also somebody I could learn from. I believe he learned as well from my experiences.
I so deeply don’t understand rejecting that which doesn’t jibe with your beliefs, when your beliefs are self-defeating. It’s not just greenboy, we’ve seen this over and over again in these threads.
Even on jokes you guys want to give life lessons. It’s becoming painfully obvious how hard some of you try.
And how little others of us try.
But it sort of just proves the point, eh? That driven people are driven.
The problem with you, and some of the people in here is that you have this impression that you are above me, because you’ve been in the “trenches”.
Most of what I say people in here can’t even comprehend, because it is their worldview that is fucking narrow. Not mine. I’ve been in the trenches, I’ve dated smart women, I’ve had friends of all walks of life, and I’ve lived in other countries.
I can see clear as crystal what goes on in the States and what I see that I don’t like I have commented. You need to get the goddamn stick out of your asses and stop pretending you’re giving life lessons to an ‘incel’ and then maybe we can have decent conversation.
Because as far as I can tell from you, you were stuck in a crap marriage for 22 years, and then came out of it needing help with dating advice. And so your very short time in the dating world you’ve become some beacon of inspiration? To whom? for what?
Or some others in here not losing their virginity until their 20s? Fucking please. Relationship advice is the last thing I need, pulling women is the least of my concerns. I’ve never had a problem with it, and that is why I can see and navigate both sides of the spectrum.
I understand the frustration men are having today and I do not like where relationship culture/society is bringing both men and women. And that’s not because I lack PUSSY you shmucks.
If anything I wish I didn’t get distracted by women so much. That’d be a nice thing. Actually.