Have You Ever Beta Orbited a Girl

[T3hPwnisher]

You need to quit looking at the exceptions of his dialogue where he does these things and just look at the AVERAGE of his words.

[anon50325502]

@greenboy

I did think we could have a light hearted open conversation but then it got personal, with insults constantly so yeah it’s hostile conversation or nothing now.

You said the average American woman looks like “complete dog shit” compared to other countries in your 3rd post, dude. I’m not sure what you expected to happen beyond that point.

[greenboy]

@dt79
did I say men only go for looks or was it the primary driver?

@anon50325502

My tone was a bit aggressive and hyperbolic but did I call your wife ugly directly? did I attack anyone directly? no. I did not.

if you feel the urge to be noble and fight for whatever you think is the average American woman then hey have at it.

[greenboy]

@T3hPwnisher

You need to quit looking at the exceptions of his dialogue where he does these things and just look at the AVERAGE of his words.

isn’t this how you should usually engage with someone? Or has politics rotten everyones brains now? we ping everyone that may put a foot in their mouths every so often, or speak out of character? or write something that maybe wasn’t fleshed out or how they meant to come off?

this is how we talk to people now huh.

ohhhhhhh but he said thisssssssssss woooooo get him!!! get him Pwnisher!!!

[dt79]

@greenboy

did I say men only go for looks or was it the primary driver?

Did I say I was referring to this? You are a very dishonest fellow.

@dt79

What is the point of my conversing with you if you are going to keep shifting the goal posts and lying about the context of previous exchanges? You couldn’t even keep the Anna Kendrick story straight.

[T3hPwnisher]

I’m sorry man, but all I got out of this was mostly consonants. You gotta up the vowel volume to average out some words.

[jshaving]

@greenboy - Didn’t closely read everything but you’re married?

[greenboy]

@dt79

@dt79

What is the point of my conversing with you if you are going to keep shifting the goal posts and lying about the context of previous exchanges? You couldn’t even keep the Anna Kendrick story straight.

What about Anna Kendrick?

@jshaving

I was but it ended because I wasn’t ready for kids, and I also wanted to move. We are still cordial. It was a mutual separation.

[jshaving]

Just wondering. I saw

@greenboy

brother in law

and hadn’t thought you were. OK though.

[anon50325502]

@greenboy

My tone was a bit aggressive and hyperbolic but did I call your wife ugly directly?

No, you were very passive aggressive when you insulted me and my wife.

@greenboy

if you feel the urge to be noble and fight for whatever you think is the average American woman then hey have at it.

My comments have nothing to do with being noble or fighting for the average woman or women in general. I could give a fuck what the average American woman looks like, does for a living, wants out of a partner, etc…

I just think your ideas are fucking weird and so I commented on them.

[liftangryordie500]

Hoo, boy. @greenboy would you be so kind as to start a training log here? I’m genuinely curious to see what your training entails, since we are on T-Nation.

[greenboy]

@liftangryordie500
lol.

What do you want to know, exactly? Never did a training log. What does that consist of? your basic stuff?

Right now I’m running a 5 day upper/lower split with cardio thrown in on off days if I feel ok. Admittedly , it is kind of too much for me right now. I’m exhausted, physically, before bed, and right when I wakeup. I wonder if I am recovering properly.

• Monday - Upper (chest focused)
• Tuesday- Lower (quad focused)
• Wed- cardio/abs (optional)
• Thursday- Upper (back focused)
• Friday-Lower (ham/glute focused)
• Saturday-Upper (arm/shoulder focused)
• Sunday-cardio/abs (optional)

[pfury]

@anon50325502

My comments have nothing to do with being noble or fighting for the average woman or women in general

Why would the average women need fighting for. As explained by gb, women have a financial and societal dominance.

Get with it man. You aren’t woke enough for this shit.

[anon50325502]

True, I forgot about that.

[liftangryordie500]

Ah. I was just curious. Most people who almost exclusively populate the Off-Topic section don’t actually train. I find it ironic.

A training log generally consists of your working weights, sets, and reps for the session. You’re more than welcome to check out mine. If you’re having recovery issues, try reducing the amount of work you’re doing (maybe cut some assistance/add sled drags on lower body sessions and take out cardio). Also, make sure you’re not running yourself into the ground. I need to deload right now simply because my body is shit and I’m going backwards.

[aldebaran]

Just laying what you do on each day cannot help us. You need to describe precisely what you do in your workouts and your cardio sessions, and describe how well goes your nutrition, sleep, stress…

I had 3 days a week programs more draining than 6 days so

[Pinkylifting]

Its always been my experience that its the people who understand the principals who are able to come up with the best analogies, because it requires comprehension of the underlying principals. People who may have all the terminology but can’t create a good analogy don’t actually understand what they are talking about.

[ActivitiesGuy]

@greenboy

What do you want to know, exactly? Never did a training log. What does that consist of? your basic stuff?

You post on this website, and you’re not sure what a training log is?

@liftangryordie500

Most people who almost exclusively populate the Off-Topic section don’t actually train. I find it ironic.

Yes, I also find this a bit strange. How does one even end up on this website if they don’t train? I guess I’ve just never wandered into forums on a website where I wasn’t into the topic.

But anyways, it is strange to me as well that someone could be carrying on a lengthy discussion anywhere on this website without knowing what a training log is, considering that an entire section of the forums is training logs. Never accidentally saw those words on the forum menu?

Good thing is, he’s basically got flipcollar’s physique (just a little bulkier!) so I’m sure we can all learn a lot from him if he starts a training log.

[dt79]

@greenboy

What about Anna Kendrick?

@greenboy

Me: the average female at a stressful 9-5 will get beat up by 35

T Nation: But what about Anna Kendrick??

Me: No, I mean your average American

T-Nation: derpy derp derp what do you mean by average

Me: you know, we don’t need to get too specific we can talk about…

T-Nation: hahahahaha you idiot, that’s not what you said

Me: huh? let’s just try and talk about ordinary Americans

T-Nation: Ok, look at this CEO for a Fortune 500 company

lol

I mentioned Anna Kendrick in jest.

@dt79

I’ll add to this. My wife is a housewife because I hate women. She’s been one since she left school. If I suddenly die tomorrow after seeing Anna Kendrick in a Sailor outfit, what would she do if she had nothing to fall back on? Go looking for another man to depend on? Start a career? She has no work experience and she’s already in her mid 30’s. Luckily I’ve made plans so that won’t happen, but would it be reasonable to ask all women to place their bets on a man like this?

@EmilyQ mentioned Anna Kendrick here.

I don’t think this is true, so I question the quality of the company you keep. I can tell which of the women who come through my office with no sense of themselves - both young and older - will have men crowding them looking for commitment. I work with a young woman coming out of an

exceptionally cloistered childhood. She’s the total package and I knew when she worried about it that she would have an easy time dating, which she dismissed as improbable. In the two years since (coming out of her teens) she’s had every fucking guy she’s gotten to know avow their love for her. Not every guy she’s met, but the ones who’ve had enough exposure to get to know her a bit. She’s just the total package - not beautiful, but cute and very clean and well-dressed, and more importantly crazy-bright with a cheerful and self-deprecating sense of humor, a generally bright outlook on life, and a thing for death metal. She’s in school and working (no family support) and has already begun moving up the ladder at work. She’ll be an executive there eventually if she opts to stay. She’s choosy because why would she want a petulant, weak man? (And she has me there to warn her about red flags.)

I work with another woman coming out of a divorce (with a weak, petulant man) who was miserable that she was going to be alone and lonely for the rest of her life because she’s old now (~40). Um, no. That’s not going to happen. Because again, the total package, even with a couple of kids. In shape, reasonably pretty (say a 7/10) and again radiating cleanliness and self-care in hair, clothes, etc, with a personality and intellect that lights up a room and a sense of humor that goes WAY dirty - which is the funnier for its complete opposition to her good-girl looks. So now here we are with the divorce finalized and the men coming out of the woodwork - quality men. Good earners, guys in shape. They could get a lesser woman ten years younger, maybe - and that 30yo might be much prettier - but the pretty younger woman they could score wouldn’t make them laugh until their sides ached or be someone they can share their vulnerability with. She would be vapid, at least in comparison, because a total-package 30yo will be out of reach for most 45yo men.

Btw, Anna Kendrick exemplifies these “total package” qualities to me. Definitely not the most beautiful woman in Hollywood, but she absolutely radiates intelligence, humor, and decency.

The market determines the value and your focus on looks alone misses the mark. It would be like saying a good ribeye overvalues itself because it’s doing so much better in the marketplace than ramen noodles.

Young women tend to be pretty and fit. The qualities smart men look for increase the likelihood that the young women they choose will age well, and these qualities include intelligence and intrinsic motivation. Again, it has little to do with staying home vs working outside the home.

What DOES have to do with working vs not is the high divorce rate and the riskiness for both parties of time away from the workforce, which limits a woman’s earning power and increases the amount a man will pay in the event of a divorce. The fear now is not of the breadwinner’s death, but of the dissolution of the partnership.

Which was obviously an example of “an actress in Hollywood who doesn’t have looks meeting normal Hollywood standards can become popular because she possesses other desirable qualities”. Which, when used along with ALL THE OTHER REAL LIFE EXAMPLES in her post, fits perfectly well as an analogy.

You replied with this:

@greenboy

Your post here is absolute pure gold, especially the part of having a goddamn actress celebrity as your example of the ‘total package’

and here people are questioning my observations that the media is modeling these girls under false pretenses and unachievable expectations.

Next you’re going to tell me every woman should empower themselves and move to NYC and find a job as a columnist for a cheeky magazine while brushing off model looking dudes at upscale bars in Manhattan because they’re too full of themselves lollllll

The search function at the top the page is very easy to use.

[dt79]

Bullshit.

@greenboy

there’s no point in linking anything. they won’t read it, or they’ll brush it off and continue to fight. This is why I never had any intention on doing a deep dive into citations

@greenboy

Quality post, bravo.

I do blame females but not because they are inherently doing this to be evil, it’s part of their genetic makeup, and because social media+feminism+unchecked capitalism fucked them up good they may possibly pay a bigger price in the end than men.

We are actually already seeing this flesh out with the Generation Z:

medpagetoday.com

Suicide Rate in Women Jumps by 50%

@dt79

How can you possibly use this to support your point when the percentage increase in the suicide rate of females at 10-14 years old is almost the same as all the other age groups?

The percentage increase in the suicide rate for that age group is actually much higher the last time I checked. This was a legitimate question that I asked you. Nobody “brushed this aside”. You ignored it.

Shall I go on? The search function really is easy to use.