Have You Ever Beta Orbited a Girl

Who is “they”?

Again, turn off your computer and go spend time in real life. This shit only exists on the internet and cable news. I have never once experienced this anti-male agenda in my life.

You don’t think men get positions they aren’t qualified for? You don’t think women are underemployed based on their education or skill set?

You have the most one-sided perspective I’ve ever seen.

Sure. These things happen. Particularly in public sector jobs with unions. My wife just found out her company is bringing in a manager with 3 years less total experience and about 6 years less industry-specific experience for $10k more than her base salary.

Life isn’t fair sometimes.

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@anon50325502
If this is the way we are going to approach things then no one can ever discuss anything because life isn’t fair, period.

We can begin to compare ourselves to third world countries, or people starving in Africa, or a planet that never got the chance to birth life because a supernova went off and blew the solar system to pieces. FUCK.

Anyways, we are talking about a trend, a trend that I have noticed happening, it does not invalidate what came before it, or change the fact that men have been more prominent in the workforce for more years or whatever the fuck else I or brick are suggesting…

sigh.

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I don’t use the term. I meant it’s sad that there are such terms used and the phenomena discussed. I don’t refer to women with derogatory terms. @EmilyQ @flipcollar

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A trend would require objective, relevant statistics to support it. That’s why it’s called a TREND.

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It can be something that is observed over and over and over again in increasing frequency.

It doesn’t exist, dude.

By whom? Since I’m an outsider, whose word do I take? Your’s? @anon50325502? My local friends from the US? You see what I’m saying?

That’s correct. When discussing quality of life, wealth, etc., I believe comparing such things in the West to the Third World is irrelevant.

Nah, not necessarily

People. There are indeed studies and polls regarding some of what we discuss here. But I don’t need professors, economists, and so on to understand every facet of the world around me.

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Unless the entire US is, for example, culturally homogeneous, yes, it would be required.

I’m talking about properly verified stats, not the interpretation of these stats by professors etc.

Perception = fact. Sweet!

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You or someone else can require it before discussing further, but a trend doesn’t require that in order to be a trend

A. I think I see a duck over there
B. Nah, that’s a goose
C. Who gives a duck?

Nope. You are arguing in the opposite. Proving a trend exists over a population of 300 million cannot be subjective.

Observed by who? If I observe an increase in red headed women, does that mean the number of redheaded women in society is increasing? Only if I believe that my perception is the only thing that’s important.

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I wonder if T-Nation knows how a lot of things actually end up getting studied… do they think people pull things out of their asses?

@dagill2
Yeah, this is when you would start to ask around, or if it was a complex matter and you were a scientist you’d have a hypothesis and then go test that hypothesis.

These things don’t fucking come to you out of thin air.

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Would first require a common understanding about what a trend even is

Actually, I do. I purchase and verify data for clients at very high fees.

Why? If he’s talking about women in general, then it’s assumed it’s a nation wide pheomena. If he says he’ talking about “middle class women living in a specified district in New York”, then it would be different. Despite this, we would still have no idea of the actual reasons and issues of correlations that led to such a trend.

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