Because this guy is knowingly conflating the small amount of valid ones with mostly invalid ones to push a faulty conclusion. There is no point in a discussion since he is being dishonest in the first place.
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Who says I don’t empathize?
I have huge empathy for said loons. Just not the kind of empathy you clearly have
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Can you expand here, Brick? Because I looked back at your previous posts in this conversation and they start with a vague agreement with @greenboy that you’ve seen this, too, but then move immediately to arranged marriages and the divorce rate.
What are the sentiments, beliefs, observations and outlooks with which you agree? I mostly see petulance and sour grapes, but certainly know women who’ve wound up with the same mindset regarding males after making unwise choices based on poor priorities. To blame “men” or “the patriarchy” for that they didn’t get what they want seems silly to me. So I view its equal-but-opposite in the same light.
But maybe I’m not picking up what you are.
You also said:
Which would seem to support greenboy’s opposition in the debate rather than his contention that privilege shouldn’t matter, pretty girls should be available to all. Some sort of gender communism, lol.
Edited to undo auto-corrections of greenboy’s name.
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This is what you gathered from my posts? maybe I am a terrible communicator or most of you already made a judgement call and don’t actually read what I say.
I’m going to say most of you don’t actually read what I say, because no where did I ever fucking say or imply something like this.
I have said the opposite, actually, that a lot of men today are the ones settling for lesser women, and some none at all.
I have seen some women cheat on really good dudes even. It’s brutal and again I blame this idea of social media giving some younger girls the impression that they deserve better simply because they are women.
Not because they go to the gym and look amazing, and are smart and conversational, no, simply because they are women.
And yes latin women tend to be more aggressive, why? Because they have to be. They’re in direct competition with other women to get a decent guy more often than not. Here in the states? Women think everyone is a ‘creep’ hitting on them 90% of the time.
This goes right over your fucking head because you’re what? 50? and probably never seen or experienced the difference…
Edit:
but wait, didn’t I just read you were in a toxic marriage for half your life? all your virtuousness and you were stuck in a crappy marriage without the strength and fortitude to get out. How ironic.
The consistent feedback you’ve received is that this isn’t the message. The message is women deserve the same as men, which has historically been absurdly more.
Also, blaming social media for women cheating (and the like statements) is why everyone really thinks you’re 22. Just a heads up in case you care about sounding like you’ve experienced the real world instead of a bubble
I take back what I said. This is another statement that really makes you look 22. So it’s not exclusive to your facebookhate.
So much for society giving women the better end of the stick with all their power amirite?
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And you still sound like a white knight stupid cuckboy with the ‘down with the patriarchy’ garbage… see I can do the 22 year old thing if ya want.
Everyone is talking about the implications facebook has had on a multitude of levels, but I am 22 because I’m pointing out one of them? one of them that has been acknowledged many times over?
And what’s even more disturbing is that I have already repeatedly said I am talking about the younger crowds that are ‘extremely online’, that do a lot of their social interactions, and initiate dating ONLINE. Now you want to twist this an insult to me? This is all most of you know how to do , lob insults.
You’re a fucking idiot.
“but but men have had the power all this time, we need more women representation my gaawwwd stop manslpainning”
So we’ve gone from any pretense, however specious, that you’re trying to have a civil debate then? Straight to insults and personal attacks? At least you’re being less dishonest now…
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Yeah I’ve lost my patience. Having to deal with people lobbing insults left and right, then whatever. I’ll show no respect as well.
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The crying about personal attacks perceived, to then outright delivering them, is the true irony this thread deserves.
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I’m alright with that actually. I rarely want people like you to like me
I say this as a genuine compliment. For an old guy, you are amazing at coming off as 22. Your ability to mimic young people is second to none.
Where has it been acknowledged many times that social media is the reason for increased cheating? Happy to be wrong here. Feel free to quote someone and shame me.
In my defense I didn’t mean it as an insult. I meant it as a literal “you act your age” comment.
Remember, I believe you’re 22.
At least you’d be able to back this statement up with common sense. Unlike your “women have all the power” line.
Excellent. The loon mocking gets so much more fun when the gloves come off!
and you’ve never seen a dude cheat on a good woman? come on man. it goes both ways. Dudes cheat like fucking CRAZY. I know very few truly faithful men.
right, because cheating wasn’t a thing until social media. You’re so fucking dense with this stuff, man. It’s really unbelievable.
People have been cheating on each other for fucking ever. It sucks, but it’s reality, and has been since long before social media. You know why I think divorce rates are higher now? Because more women can support themselves, and don’t need to stay with a dude anymore if the dude treats them like shit. 100 years ago, for most women, leaving a bad marriage wasn’t a viable option. Now it is. That would directly imply a higher divorce rate.
Men and women become complacent in long term relationships. It’s not universal, but it’s very common. They stop putting in the effort and work necessary to keep a relationship healthy. They lack the discipline to be faithful. Those are things that ACTUALLY explain high divorce rates in a reasonable way.
I honestly don’t believe that most of us are built to be with the same woman for 30+ years. We’ve come up with social constructs that make us believe we are, and some of us dedicate our lives to fitting certain molds. But that doesn’t mean there’s anything natural about it. And in today’s world, we have a lot of freedom, we have more awareness of these things.
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I thought you didn’t support personal attacks.
What would you like? Opinion pieces? polls? Because that’s what you’re going to get most of the time in topics like these.
Or do you expect a scientific peer reviewed paper in a journal? I don’t think they have those yet on this subject.
And since most dumbass forum dwellers bend to authority without actually knowing how to discuss and dissect a topic without throwing out a references list first I’d imagine you would want a series of links don’t ya?
Not being 22 I have been online a long time, I know how these things go. I’ll link a bunch of articles, you link articles, and we have a references battle.
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Absolutely I have. However, I’m seeing it more on the other end and have been for some time.
I said this? where?
I’m sure divorce rates are higher because women can “support” themselves but not as much as you think because i think this idea of “supporting” yourself is a little overblown. Getting any job, anywhere, can allow you to ‘support’ yourself and women have been able to do this now for what? Over 50 years? So I don’t think that’s the main cause.
Then what changed? People got lazy?
Yes, we have more freedom, and more social influence to go the other way.
I evolved on the topic and changed my mind.
Apologies, I took your statement of agreement to mean people in the thread (haven’t been able to read it all).
Don’t worry if all you have is opinion pieces and polls of bitter teenagers. My googlefu is much stronger than some 40 yr old.
I’d imagine there won’t be many of those on this topic, but if you have one hell toss it in.
Actually I was hoping for another warm body that agreed with you to discuss it with. Let’s chalk this one up as a swingandamiss
Well with your view that women have all this power youd have to have been online a while. Certainly not a real world observation outside of a bubble.
You should Google average female wages over the last 50 years lol
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well, I quoted you. I can requote you. you definitely blamed social media, specifically, for increased cheating rates among women here:
what, specifically do you mean by this? anecdotes of friends? what is your field of observation and sample size?
You’re using the phrase ‘I’m seeing ____’ to justify a whole lot of your positions, and that’s a big problem when you’re taking stances about the population at large.
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“Bro you’re just not reading what I write!”
“Here’s what you said chapter and verse.”
“Where did I say that huh? Huh?!!!”
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Bros at the gym, IIRC. A compelling sample size if there ever was one.
Yea, I mean I’m giving him the opportunity to share if he’s discussing this with a gender-balanced population. It seems pretty fucking obvious that if you’re talking to mostly, if not exclusively, men, you’re going to mostly hear about women cheating, and not the other way around. Especially if the population is sexually frustrated, as this greenguy has mostly described his peer group to be.
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Welcome to Internet 101. I, Zep, will be your instructor.
This thread is off the chain.
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