Hard Work

Dog, my problem with dips is strength itself - just brutal to get all the way. So I usually head for the machines. I’ve some injuries on the left arm, but pretty much gone by now. Also lousy on chins as well.

KM, thanks. I’m just determined to put some meat on these bones, and if that does it, so be it.

Got a very old Powerlifting mag from late 80’s or early 90’s, where Louie Simmons preaches hi rep deads. Take your 1 rep max, cut in half. Do 2 sets of 15 reps. Repeat 4 or 5 times a week. Voila, instant DL strength. On the other hand, saw a more recent article by Louie where he says never, ever do hi rep deads, so who knows.

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Dog, my problem with dips is strength itself - just brutal to get all the way. So I usually head for the machines. I’ve some injuries on the left arm, but pretty much gone by now. Also lousy on chins as well.

KM, thanks. I’m just determined to put some meat on these bones, and if that does it, so be it.

Got a very old Powerlifting mag from late 80’s or early 90’s, where Louie Simmons preaches hi rep deads. Take your 1 rep max, cut in half. Do 2 sets of 15 reps. Repeat 4 or 5 times a week. Voila, instant DL strength. On the other hand, saw a more recent article by Louie where he says never, ever do hi rep deads, so who knows.[/quote]

I’m guessing Louie got older and decided high rep deads were shit.

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Dog, my problem with dips is strength itself - just brutal to get all the way. So I usually head for the machines. I’ve some injuries on the left arm, but pretty much gone by now. Also lousy on chins as well.

KM, thanks. I’m just determined to put some meat on these bones, and if that does it, so be it.

Got a very old Powerlifting mag from late 80’s or early 90’s, where Louie Simmons preaches hi rep deads. Take your 1 rep max, cut in half. Do 2 sets of 15 reps. Repeat 4 or 5 times a week. Voila, instant DL strength. On the other hand, saw a more recent article by Louie where he says never, ever do hi rep deads, so who knows.[/quote]

I’m guessing Louie got older and decided high rep deads were shit.[/quote]

It’s funny. I’ve seen a number of experts say something positively, absolutely, without question the one and only way to train. Then a few years later they’re saying something completely different and quietly ignore they ever said the first thing.

In the original article, Louie claimed there were very clear results in the people who tried the hi reps, including himself. Would love to hear him explain why he changed his mind.

Whats a HS Neck Press?

Hammer Strength. Sit down and push up. Works shoulders.

Ohhhh, gotcha, I sometimes like to do that machine actually straddling the seat.

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Would love to hear him explain why he changed his mind.[/quote]

It’s a wonderful thing to be able to change one’s mind. My belief is that different things work for different people. I can look at certain programs and just know they wouldn’t work for me either because of how my body responds to training or because of my mental landscape.

Snapper, you have a much more intelligent approach than what I’ve seen from some experts. It doesn’t bother me if someone is flexible with programs. I’m just amused by the experts preaching that something is absolutely the end-all. Following that kind of advice wrecked my progress for many, many years.

I just dug out the article, Simmons says:

“The lower back should be worked a minimum of four times a week. Many lifters deadlift only every 14 days. That’s the reason their backs are always sore, they’re out of shape.” That’s pretty adamant.

Now I’m sure there are times when hi-rep deads several times a week can be useful, and I’m guessing Louie ran into a few cases. Just wish they wouldn’t phrase it as “Everyone must do this for the rest of their lives”.

Cav it is good to see , the Hard Work is paying off. I like those BP sets.

Cav, great job with the deads and congrat with the bench PR. From your description it sounds like you’re getting the box squat down.

Dude, Chi-Town, thanks. Really struggling to get some strength in this body. Happy with any progress I can get.

Been busy job hunting, so didn’t post yesterday’s workout. Rack DLs, just the lockout for as long as could stand it, trying to zap some toughness into me. Felt a little better than the last time:

135# . 225 . 275 . 295 . 315 . 315 . 315 . 315 . 295

grip was the limiting factor, fine, it needs work too. Got a great night’s sleep, feel whacked but not really sore. Will take it easy for a few days, maybe a week, give body a chance to recover.

machine bicep
40 x 20
55 x 14
70 x 8
85 x 5
100 x 2
100 x 2

reverse row on dip handles
x15 . x15 . x12 . x12 . x10

finished with pulldowns.

Damn - don’t tell me it’s going to rain AGAIN

could be worse… could be snowing

[quote]cavalier wrote:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:

[quote]cavalier wrote:
Dog, my problem with dips is strength itself - just brutal to get all the way. So I usually head for the machines. I’ve some injuries on the left arm, but pretty much gone by now. Also lousy on chins as well.

KM, thanks. I’m just determined to put some meat on these bones, and if that does it, so be it.

Got a very old Powerlifting mag from late 80’s or early 90’s, where Louie Simmons preaches hi rep deads. Take your 1 rep max, cut in half. Do 2 sets of 15 reps. Repeat 4 or 5 times a week. Voila, instant DL strength. On the other hand, saw a more recent article by Louie where he says never, ever do hi rep deads, so who knows.[/quote]

I’m guessing Louie got older and decided high rep deads were shit.[/quote]

It’s funny. I’ve seen a number of experts say something positively, absolutely, without question the one and only way to train. Then a few years later they’re saying something completely different and quietly ignore they ever said the first thing.

In the original article, Louie claimed there were very clear results in the people who tried the hi reps, including himself. Would love to hear him explain why he changed his mind.[/quote]
Not to sound too cynical but experts have to keep coming up with new stuff to be considered current and not passe. Think Joe is probably dead on.

You’re doing good.

Dog - don’t even THINK it!! (OK, you have my sympathy.)

Harry, thanks. And I’ve become very cynical about experts. Been too burned by some of the silliness. Huh, lifting for over 30 yrs and feel like a beginner, still learning.

Anyway, somebody - was it Matty? - was talking about modified bar pulls. Well, my shoulders really need some help, so decided to try it. Wide grip and only pull up to nipples. Goodness, it really whacked the delts and with no injuries. I’m impressed.

35# x 15
45 x 10
55 x 10
65 x 6
65 x 6
65 x 6
65 x 6
65 x 6

Was going to take it easy today, but was in a really good mood. Sound sleep last night? The pig out at Golden Corral? Who knows, I wanted to grind some solid iron today. Try some more DB bicep rows:
30 x 12
40 x 10
50 x 4
50 x 4
50 x 4
50 x 4

Increased weight and it still felt good. I’m on a roll. Rope pulldowns for tri:
50 x 12
80 x 10
110 x 7
130 x 2
140 x 2
140 x 2
140 x 2
140 x 2

Damn, getting strong. Nothing forced, was holding the last one. Finished with assisted dips & chins. Easy as pie. Grrr!

Cav, are you using pullup bands. I have some from ironwoody.com. they have helped a great deal. I was using the green band last 2 months and now have moved to the blue band. If this goes the way I hope, I will use the blue for two months then be doing them on my own. I do recommend them.

As far as experts go i would take their advice with only a small grain of salt. Everything i have read over the past 5 years or so, here and Elitefts, all seem to have one thing in common. You have to change what you do. Its a Weider principle. Now most in the industry now have poo-pooed on them, but, I still see a few preached by them. I think the reason they change what they say is that the body adapts to what you were doing and you then have to move on to something else. I see it as them adapting to what they have learned. And yes what they preach now will be different in 5 years or so, but if they have been good a for a while, then they will prolly continue to be good. As long they preach compound movements, and hard work and no short cuts, then I will always give a listen. Oh, and deep squats too.

User42, don’t have bands, I use the Nautilus machine at the gym, the one where you kneel on the pad and it takes weight off you as you do chins or dips. I’ve heard good things about the bands, but since currently not working, have to be careful about spending.

Yesterday set the machine to minus 70 lbs, and did the reps more easily than last week at minus 100. Exciting!

Yeah, about the most intelligent thing I’ve heard is “change your routine”. Agreed on compound movements. I still remember many years ago when Arthur Jones bragged his machines were so superior to barbells. He brought out his “squat machine” with much fanfare. I tried it, almost wrecked my shoulders. A couple years later, he was bragging about training people with ordinary barbell squats. He never mentioned the machine again.

[quote]cavalier wrote:

Damn, getting strong. [/quote]

Well, that’s what it’s all about. Great!

How is that Golden Coral? it looks awesome, they dont have any in NYC.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
How is that Golden Coral? it looks awesome, they dont have any in NYC.[/quote]

Oh, you poor thing. Well, let’s see, for about 10 bucks (less if you’re obviously an oldie), you get an all you can eat buffet. Salad bar (with shrimp), soup, roast chicken, meat loaf, roast pork, pot roast, pizza, mac & cheese, veggies, baked potato & sweet potato, and 20 zillion deserts. Evening hours you can get steak - not terrific, but good, cooked as you like. Mushrooms & onion on side. Currently they have BBQ ribs in several varieties. And go back for seconds.

Weekends they have breakfast up to 11:00. All the scrambled eggs, bacon, sausage, & waffles you can pack down.

Now quit drooling on your keyboard and get a sandwich.

Oh god, that sounds like heaven.