I asked my wife what she thought about this while I was actually sitting on an exercise bike.
Zero fucks. And she’s kinda a big woman herself.
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Yes. That’s really the thing that puts me over the top on considering the price. It’s like $3k for the bike and then you pay into perpetuity. NordicTrack has been hitting me pretty hard with ads for its incline trainer, which also comes with interactive pay-until-you-die stuff. I would have replaced my 15 year old Nordictrack treadmill long ago if I weren’t so loathe to lose the ability to see over the control panel and out the window. I don’t understand having a television attached to workout equipment. I have some mild interest in the competitive nature of the interaction, but for $200/yr? No.
Although I guess the smart money would be on that eventually, I’ll cave. : /
Yes, that’s a big component but this recent occurrence of where you aren’t allowed to ‘fat shame’ or that doctors can’t talk about someones weight is coming from where? I’m interested in how these things come about, do they manifest by themselves? or is there some type of push for this and where does that push come from ?
I’ve heard some opinions that the whole ‘fat acceptance’ movement comes from the top. It comes from the desire to begin making money from these people. People in power (I hate using that expression) have now decided that since America is so fucking fat there’s no way back and so they might as well start speaking directly to these flobos. This goes hand in hand with the modern feminist movement that promotes the agenda that men and women are the same.
This Peloton case is an interesting one because we’re seeing both these things coming together to “cancel” something that has no business being offensive, outside of the ludicrous purchase price and insane subscription.
I think that most people in real life don’t really care one way or the other if a stranger is fat or not. I’m not really sure what the appeal is to “fat shame”? I think the fat acceptance “movement” is like a lot of other so-called movements, they exist on the internet/social media, but aren’t anything more than a bunch of people bitching behind their keyboards. I think the vast vast vast majority of Americans know they’re a) fat and/or b) unhealthy because of their excess body weight, or c) in denial. I think a very small percentage of people believe their fat and it’s “beautiful”.
As far as not being allowed to fat shame, there have always been consequences for being a dick. It’s pretty simple in my opinion, don’t make fun of people for being fat and don’t talk to fat people about diet/exercise because of da feelz. If you feel the need to insult people online understand the potential ramifications. That’s life in today’s crybaby world.
Doctors can’t talk about people’s weight?
The supplement and weight loss industries are $150+ billion-dollar industries. Fitness equipment is another like $10B. Again, I think there are people of influence that bark the loudest about fat acceptance, but there are also plenty of people of influence that do the opposite.
I don’t believe there is some kind of cabal pushing certain agendas.
Mkay.
Peloton’s stock price has rebounded quite a bit since December. I think they’ll be fine:
Their financials leave much to be desired:
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It’s shaping up to be another rendition of " Them Bitches Are Getting Too Much Power; Fat Chicks Edition!" from our boy Greenie!
How can they have the right to be offended when they shouldn’t even have any rights at all!
Amiright bros!?!
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I, uh…
Have a happy relationship/marriage.
and, uh…
I do not own a peloton.
FTMFW~
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I can’t remember a time when I have NOT been exposed to negative talk about fat people, from both the shamers and the overweight people themselves. This happens in my social circles and at work, where people discuss attraction, and it happens here at TN and on other social media outlets with a lot of members and relative anonymity. Where it doesn’t happen in my world is in mixed groups (weight-wise) and on my Facebook page. Because it’s nice to have some fucking sensitivity. I will talk about my diet struggles with other thin people (“but I liiiiiiiiike ice cream!”), and avoid it when I know it will make someone else feel self-conscious. When I’ve worked with a lot of people, just seeing me get my lunch out of the fridge has often been enough to make overweight coworkers react defensively.
I can’t imagine anything has changed in the however-many-years since the technological revolution (I’m guessing) made it easier to get fat and stay that way.
Here’s a mildly interesting graph, which shows that while men and women seem to be moving toward obesity at similar rates, women are significantly less likely to be overweight than men, which has remained steady.
So my question is: why isn’t it a wife buying the Peloton for her fat ass husband in the commercials?
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I guess @greenboy accidentally hit the nail on the head then. Tons of differences between men and women these days.
REJOICE!
Only that these internet movements are having real world consequences. Believe me I would much like corporations, institutions, and people in general not to react to these outcries and cancel culture but so far it hasn’t stopped.
Doctors can’t talk about people’s weight?
A direct consequence of these ‘movements’. Doctors are being pressured to be very careful when referencing someones weight, just like when a patient fills out a form they need to specify what type of ‘gender’ they want to be referred to alas so the doctor doesn’t offend lol. It’s insane but this is real.
The supplement and weight loss industries are $150+ billion-dollar industries. Fitness equipment is another like $10B. Again, I think there are people of influence that bark the loudest about fat acceptance, but there are also plenty of people of influence that do the opposite. I don’t believe there is some kind of cabal pushing certain agendas.
Right, at one point the mechanism to make money was to try and get people to lose weight. The argument goes that this battle has been lost, and now the money is in marketing to fat people and accepting them for “who they are” and therefore they should also be ‘included’ and ‘represented’
Do you agree with this?
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So my question is: why isn’t it a wife buying the Peloton for her fat ass husband in the commercials?
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With the group i hang around, it is obvious that hot wimmen love fat ugly menz.
she is a “sexpert” after all - lol
call me crazy but I think that you’d find more women accepting of heavier set men, even some that may prefer it, compared to men enjoying themselves an overweight woman.
“overweight men” is a bit misleading as most men carry more muscle, and therefore can be classified as ‘overweight’ without actually being so. I don’t think the same applies for most women.
I guess you’d have to read the study to know if they accounted for that. I’d say they probably didn’t.
Every other metric the women seem to be worse, or getting worse.
Two things in regards to Peloton:
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Certain activities are chores for some and hobbies for others. This is a site mostly inhabited by people that enjoy spending time at the gym/working out, even though most people see it more as something to get through. This same thing is true for many other tasks, such as cooking, yardwork/gardening, car repairs, driving, various forms of tinkering with different devices, etc. If you give a gift related to something that the recipient views as a hobby, it will probably be appreciated. If the recipient sees it as a chore, probably less so. Even then, though, a practical recipient might acknowledge that the gift lets them get through the disliked chore more quickly and efficiently. The woman in the video seems to appreciate and like the gift. That should be enough to establish that in this situation it was a good gift. And it’s not hard to imagine that there are others who would appreciate a similar gift.
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As far as the state of relationships, I think the biggest problem that the outcry reflects is the idea that doing things to make your spouse happy is somehow a deficiency. Even if the only reason a woman wants to lose weight and improve her figure is because it makes her husband happy, that doesn’t mean she is abused or suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Maybe it just means she’s in a healthy relationship where spouses like doing things that make each other happy.
Sidebar: the fact that you can buy exercise equipment that you then have to pay a subscription to use is troubling.
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Frankly, I don’t know why BMI is still used at all.
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Agreed -
my BMI is 31 - even the doc told me i have nothing to worry about.
I’m waiting for my insurance to increase because I’m “obese”
Such as?
You would have to somehow prove this for me to believe it. The first thing you do when entering a doctor’s office is to step on a scale. It’s not like doctors are immune to obesity themselves. Many are fat too.
Mkay.
Do I agree with what specifically? Companies make a lot of money trying to get people to lose weight. Companies make a lot of money providing a product that fat people want.
Companies target people based on the product the products consumers want. There are a lot of fat people so providing plus size clothes or fast food is logical from a business perspective. It’s not some weird agenda from the top. It’s what the market has dictated.
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Bandits did it right.
And now we’re delving into unverifiable hearsay. You’re a conspiracy theorist my man. No ifs, ands, or buts about it…
There are products that are marketed towards all kinds of people. Not just people who are fat/don’t want to accept that being fat, by and large, leads to major health complications and degradation of quality of life…You’re a lunatic.
So stop using it.
Bruh, step outside yourself. No one has power over you greater than the power you have over yourself. You sound like a raving lunatic in the majority of your posts.
Conspiracy theory
You’re reaching my man. For real, I give you a hard time, but I really think you should seek professional help…
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OK? I’m pretty sure I made it clear that these were discussion points, questions I had, not actual beliefs of this being what is happening.
If you haven’t noticed the recent ‘fat acceptance’ movement then I can’t discuss this with you. I"ve only asked questions, where, how, this is coming about because this is definitely somewhat new.