(I don’t think my other post went through, so here goes nothing - hopefully I don’t double post).
Here’s a picture of my Walther P22. I love it. It shoots awesome and the ammo .22lr ammo is cheap.
It’s my first gun but I do plan on getting more - I think a 9mm is next.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
I just wanna say that from a newbie’s stand point, it is really amazing how confrontational and political pretty much any thread on this site can become. Not that a good debate isn’t healthy or expected, but wow. Just an observation.[/quote]
Hey, why do you think it’s called Testosterone Nation?
You’ll get used to it, kid. You may even enjoy it.
HAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!
[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
My Sig has a de-cocker and no saftey. That was fine before kids, now I keep all my guns locked up. Even if that were not the case, I still feel better with a safty.
P.S>: for political statement see pic.
Me solomon Grundy
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I think that an ingrained understanding of the Four Rules is a far better safety than any mechanical device.
The Four Rules can be summarized thus:
“It’s always fucking loaded, so don’t touch the trigger until you’ve got your sights on something you are absolutely positive you want to kill!”
Huh, I did’t know there was a .22 Walther in that design. It looks nearly identical to the P99; is it an entirely new weapon or just the older gun rechambered for .22?
[quote]vermilion wrote:
Huh, I did’t know there was a .22 Walther in that design. It looks nearly identical to the P99; is it an entirely new weapon or just the older gun rechambered for .22?[/quote]
As far as I know it’s been for at least 3-4 years. It’s a great gun as I said before, nice and accurate. It’s also a reasonable price.
I got the anniversary edition with the 3.4" and 5" barrel’s, a $95 case, bore cleaner, bore snake, Remington oil, 500 rounds and both clips for $427 out the door.
Check it out here:
www.waltheramerica.com/p22.htm
[quote]JD430 wrote:
The S&W monsters like the .500 and the XVR are probably more appropriate for hunting. I have shot the .500 and its power is insane.[/quote]
I have a .500 S&W. Absolutely amazing power, the recoil is suprisingly tame though, thanks to the grip.
There don’t seem to be many Glock fans here. I shoot a model 23 .40 S&W and love it.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
The Four Rules can be summarized thus:
“It’s always fucking loaded, so don’t touch the trigger until you’ve got your sights on something you are absolutely positive you want to kill!”
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Nice summarization.
[quote]vermilion wrote:
It looks nearly identical to the P99; is it an entirely new weapon or just the older gun rechambered for .22?[/quote]
I’ve got a P99 and I’ve shot a P22. Inside they are totally different guns.
Has anyone played with the .22 conversion kits for the 1911. I’m not sure what to think of them, but it seems like a good way to practice the basics and get a lot of dirt cheap trigger time in.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
Ive never shot the .50 cal desert eagle.
I don’t really see much of a place for it, other than the coolness factor.
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I don’t even know about the coolness factor, most people into handguns seem to regard the DE as a little silly. A good deal of the guns fans seem to have based their opinions on it due to it’s popularity in films and video games. (I’ve never shot it before, so what do I know?).
Interesting note, I saw a video of some guy trying to fire them akimbo, one in each hand, but they kept jamming and misfeeding because he didn’t have the wrist strength to hold it steady.
[quote]CEZAR wrote:
Has anyone played with the .22 conversion kits for the 1911. I’m not sure what to think of them, but it seems like a good way to practice the basics and get a lot of dirt cheap trigger time in. [/quote]
I would not advise it. Remember that every time the action cycles, whether firing a .22 or .45 round, you put stress on the frame of the pistol. Not a lot, but after firing several thousand rounds, it all adds up.
While slide-to-barrel fit is probably more relevant to inherent accuracy than slide-to-frame fit, you don’t want that loosy-goosy feel that you get with old Army issue .45s. Instead, spend a little more and get yourself one of these. It’s a Ruger Mark III 22/45, with the same grip angle and approximate weight as the 1911 pistol.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
CEZAR wrote:
Has anyone played with the .22 conversion kits for the 1911. I’m not sure what to think of them, but it seems like a good way to practice the basics and get a lot of dirt cheap trigger time in.
I would not advise it. Remember that every time the action cycles, whether firing a .22 or .45 round, you put stress on the frame of the pistol. Not a lot, but after firing several thousand rounds, it all adds up.
While slide-to-barrel fit is probably more relevant to inherent accuracy than slide-to-frame fit, you don’t want that loosy-goosy feel that you get with old Army issue .45s. Instead, spend a little more and get yourself one of these. It’s a Ruger Mark III 22/45, with the same grip angle and approximate weight as the 1911 pistol.[/quote]
damn, that’s a nice idea .
Thanks for the info on the P22, guys. I guess I should pay closer attention to the small caliber guns…
I do enjoy my Ruger P89 with decock. I carried it for the Plymouth Cty Sherrifs Dept. where we could carry just about any configuration and any caliber including 40s&w, 9mm, 357/38, 45 etc.
I’d take a 45ACP if I had to do it all over again.
My all-time favorite was my S&W 357mag. with a 2 1/2" barrell. Anything over 185gr. was a real “KICK”!
I had a debate with a client of mine after she reacted to my quote of the week board…
“If guns kill people then I can blame mispellings on my pencil”
Larry the Cable Guy
She actually said “the only way to defeat criminals is to not stoop to their level” meaning obtaining and carrying a handgun.
WTF? The only way to stop Corry Dillon is to not tackle him. Yeah, that makes sense. (I’m a Pats fan!)
[quote]JD430 wrote:
eawhite wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
The Warrior is essentially the same pistol as my Raptor, with a light rail on the frame, which I hear is standard on all new Kimber pistols. I can’t speak for the Warrior (or the new Desert Warrior), but Kimber makes some awfully good pistols. The Marines like 'em, so that should tell you something.
I believe the LA SWAT team also uses Kimber handguns. The Kimber custom TLE II is my favorite pistol so far.
You are correct. However, I have heard of numerous problems with that gun because of the extractor. Thats why the marines stick with the original John Browing design, and I think Im going to do the same.[/quote]
The models with the external extractors are the ones that seem to have the most trouble. I personally own a Kimber Custom II with the internal extractor and have not had a Feed or eject failure yet using all kinds of .45 ammo including handloads.
Started out walking a beat with a Colt Python 357 mag. Very fine weapon! Liked it so much I was one of the last to finally go to a semiauto. Carried a Beretta 96 for years and never felt more in control of a handgun in my life. I carry a Glock 23 now and can’t seem to find a problem with it at all. Juiced it up with night sights and laser.
[quote]old_graymule wrote:
Started out walking a beat with a Colt Python 357 mag. Very fine weapon! Liked it so much I was one of the last to finally go to a semiauto. Carried a Beretta 96 for years and never felt more in control of a handgun in my life. I carry a Glock 23 now and can’t seem to find a problem with it at all. Juiced it up with night sights and laser.[/quote]
[quote]rainjack wrote:
So you’d be happy if everyone in the United States who was “qualified” enough for a Concealed Weapons Permit carried around a handgun with him/her 24/7?
Absolutely. You say that like it is a bad thing. I find your pseudo concern comical. [/quote]
Does that 8 hour CCW class change a person’s temperment? You’re saying that you would feel comfortable if everybody who COULD get a permit actually carried a weapon on them 24/7? Think about that.[quote]
Like I said before - if you are truly that concerned about preventable deaths, then stop the big killers first. Like slippery bath tubs, drunk drivers, over-eating fat asses, and while you are at it - you might start with trying to get the automobile banned. I think traffic accidents kill more people than anything else.
Somehow - I don’t think the dying part is nearly as important to you as the taking of constitutional rights.
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Correct me if I’m wrong here, but last I checked, slippery bathtubs, autmobiles, or Big Macs never INTENTIONALLY killed anyone.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Hey, why do you think it’s called Testosterone Nation?
You’ll get used to it, kid. You may even enjoy it.
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Good point. Like I said, not a problem, just an observation. And to see if I can instigate it further, I am just going to say…
TOOKIE WILLIAMS.
That is all. (Hijack over)
I like the idea of using Desert Eagle’s BFR in .410 caliber for a home defense handgun(obviously too much to carry though). You can get 2 1/2" rounds loaded with 00 buck(it’s like 4 bullets in one:)). Recoil might be a problem though, even in a four pound pistol.
Anyone here own or shot one?
Of course, NOTHING beats the old 12 gauge for home, or any other, defense. The only problem I see is that it may be TOO powerful. Must make quite a mess.
I think the 20 gauge, or even .410, may be better if you still plan to live in your house after the “incident”.