Does anyone here shoot in the IDPA? And if so what do you use? I’ve been thinking of joining, It’s kind of cool, they don’t allow “competition guns” and you get to do some useful scenerios.
[quote]CEZAR wrote:
Does anyone here shoot in the IDPA? And if so what do you use? I’ve been thinking of joining, It’s kind of cool, they don’t allow “competition guns” and you get to do some useful scenerios.
Wlison’s guns are very nice, but I think they are a rip off. The prices for his police shotguns are absurd(Remington 870 for over a grand?)
In my opinion, Les Baer makes the best 1911s around. Premier II is cheaper than most of the Wilsons and I have never heard a complaint about a Baer pistol. They’re known to digest 50,000 rounds and be just as tight as out of the box.
On a slightly different note, I was looking at buying a 1911 with a light rail. At this point, Im down to the Kimber Desert Warrior or the SA Opertator TRP. Actually, I would like the new Les Baer pistol with the machined light rail, but its about $3000.
Anyone have any opinion on either the Desert Warrior or the Operator if you own one or have handled one extensively?
[quote]DB297 wrote:
I’ll be happy to rebut the statement. Citizens had the right and DUTY to bear arms in order to maintain a militia. Last I checked we don’t have a militia anymore.
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If this country was ever invaded, you’d see a several million strong militia materialize within hours. All because of the fact we have the right to own guns.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
vermilion wrote:
As it is, some pistols’ magazine releases, slide catches and safeties still give me trouble, so I’m pickier than most about the design of handguns I prefer to handle.
Have I got the pistol for you! Behold the Heckler & Koch P7M10. Caliber .40 S&W, 10 round double-stack magazine, single-action, with NO hammer and NO safety. Magazine catch is in the same place as the 1911.
To cock, you squeeze the lever in the front of the grip with the three fingers of your right hand. The gun remains cocked and unlocked until you release your grip, and virtually impossible to fire unless the lever is depressed.
P7s are also available in 9mm (blecch!), and a few (like maybe six) were made in .45 (too bad).[/quote]
NJ State Police used to carry that weapon I believe. Maybe a variant with a longer barrel, a P8 maybe?
One of the main reasons they went with it if I remember was the unsual action. Difficult to operate if you haven’t been trained/practiced how to. Good for the trooper, bad for the guy who try’s to take it from him.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
CEZAR wrote:
On a slightly different note, I was looking at buying a 1911 with a light rail. At this point, Im down to the Kimber Desert Warrior or the SA Opertator TRP. Actually, I would like the new Les Baer pistol with the machined light rail, but its about $3000.
Anyone have any opinion on either the Desert Warrior or the Operator if you own one or have handled one extensively?
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The Warrior is essentially the same pistol as my Raptor, with a light rail on the frame, which I hear is standard on all new Kimber pistols. I can’t speak for the Warrior (or the new Desert Warrior), but Kimber makes some awfully good pistols. The Marines like 'em, so that should tell you something.
I’ve got two, a Flint Lock and a Lugar P-08. Currently I’m looking around for a Le Matt revolver [I like historical weaponry far more then modern weaponry].
The Warrior is essentially the same pistol as my Raptor, with a light rail on the frame, which I hear is standard on all new Kimber pistols. I can’t speak for the Warrior (or the new Desert Warrior), but Kimber makes some awfully good pistols. The Marines like 'em, so that should tell you something.[/quote]
I believe the LA SWAT team also uses Kimber handguns. The Kimber custom TLE II is my favorite pistol so far.
The Warrior is essentially the same pistol as my Raptor, with a light rail on the frame, which I hear is standard on all new Kimber pistols. I can’t speak for the Warrior (or the new Desert Warrior), but Kimber makes some awfully good pistols. The Marines like 'em, so that should tell you something.
I believe the LA SWAT team also uses Kimber handguns. The Kimber custom TLE II is my favorite pistol so far.[/quote]
You are correct. However, I have heard of numerous problems with that gun because of the extractor. Thats why the marines stick with the original John Browing design, and I think Im going to do the same.
[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote
I would like to add a .50 AE Desert Eagle to the mix.
Me Solomon Grundy[/quote]
Ahh, Yes the desert eagle. I was waiting till someone mentioned that. Not exactly a concealed carry pistol, but what guy hasn’t tought about shooting the biggest handgun they can get ahold of? You got to love a compant that builds a gas operated semi-auto pistol that can fire magnum rounds for the hell of it.
[quote]CEZAR wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote
I would like to add a .50 AE Desert Eagle to the mix.
Me Solomon Grundy
Ahh, Yes the desert eagle. I was waiting till someone mentioned that. Not exactly a concealed carry pistol, but what guy hasn’t tought about shooting the biggest handgun they can get ahold of? You got to love a compant that builds a gas operated semi-auto pistol that can fire magnum rounds for the hell of it.
Well I guess this is the pistol you’d hunt with.[/quote]
Ive never shot the .50 cal desert eagle.
I don’t really see much of a place for it, other than the coolness factor.
The S&W monsters like the .500 and the XVR are probably more appropriate for hunting. I have shot the .500 and its power is insane.
I just wanna say that from a newbie’s stand point, it is really amazing how confrontational and political pretty much any thread on this site can become. Not that a good debate isn’t healthy or expected, but wow. Just an observation.
I am a fan of Rugers pretty much all the way around. I really like all of their P9x series. Altho I think it was a little short sided of them to offer de-cock and no safety on some. I’d think both would be a minimum.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
I am a fan of Rugers pretty much all the way around. I really like all of their P9x series. Altho I think it was a little short sided of them to offer de-cock and no safety on some. I’d think both would be a minimum. [/quote]
My Sig has a de-cocker and no saftey. That was fine before kids, now I keep all my guns locked up. Even if that were not the case, I still feel better with a safty.
Yeah, safeties are pretty over rated, but I think they do at least offer some piece of mind. And locking them up: definitely. Especially in that case. Safety or not.