Half: Divorce and Alimony

Mak… I don’t want to post the whole post, but sometimes the reason a man can work more hours is because the woman goes home and works in the home keeping things together without earning any pay for that work.

I also work more than 50+ hours a week myself.

I work for a female attorney who works about 60 hours a week.

in any case … I don’t want to go tit for tat

I don’t know how to make things fair, I don’t know that they can be completely equitable. Men and women have different life circumstances.

If women get more favor in the courts, men get more favor in the work place. I don’t have to get married or have children, but most everyone will have to work.

again… does anyone see how this can ever be a completely level playing field? I don’t.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
My wife makes serious coin; otherwise, I would never gotten married.

Women want to trap men into a marriage, pop out a couple of babies, and play mom - which means hiring a nanny, shopping all day, and driving a Range Rover.[/quote]

Not all women.

Yes, there is considerable bias there. But marriage can work. My parents have been together since they were 20(ish). They have their ups and downs, but they haven’t called it quits.

That’s why you insist on paying half of the rent each. What reason would any guy have to not do so? But my assumption is based on flatting. Is that what you meant?

“Men, don’t argue–you cannot win. You cannot beat a woman in an argument–it’s impossible. You will not win. Because men, we are handicapped when it comes to arguing, because we have a need to make sense. Women aren’t going to let a little thing like sense screw-up their argument.” --Chris Rock

Again, not all women. Strangely enough, I’ve met women who have no desire to have children. And before you say “oh, that’s what they say now” I’ll point out that at least three of said women are over 50.

Congratulations. You found a partner that wants to be your equal.

[quote]If your wife makes as much as you do, you can’t get taken to the cleaners during a divorce. If your wife doesn’t, your financial life is in ruins from a divorce.

Oh, and if you have kids that you love. LOL! They will be pawns in a divorce battle. You won’t get to see them, even if your wife is a total piece of shit. The law favors women. It’s astounding, and most men cannot even understand what is happening to them in divorce court. It’s that unfair.[/quote]

Anyone who uses children as leverage in court should have parental rights stripped from them. So in that sense… I agree with you. It is very unfair.

Manipulative shrews. But they aren’t the mainstream representation of women.

Yep. To anyone doubting this, they do say that. You think lawyers will do anything for money? Think again.

I think you’re jaded. But you do have some valid points.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
My wife makes serious coin; otherwise, I would never gotten married.

Women want to trap men into a marriage, pop out a couple of babies, and play mom - which means hiring a nanny, shopping all day, and driving a Range Rover.

For most men, marriage is a total scam. But it’s something men fall for.

Women can be really deceitful. So it’s a slow process how you get stuck. First, the girl is like, “We’re always together. It’s silly we pay two rents.”

Being a man, you fall for the logical argument and move in together. But then it’s one “logical” move after another until you’re stuck.

The end game is them having babies and not working. If you recognize this, as a man, you’ll be ahead of the game.

I’m actually happily married; but I made sure I found one who makes as much or more than I make; and who will want to continue working, even if we do have children.

If your wife makes as much as you do, you can’t get taken to the cleaners during a divorce. If your wife doesn’t, your financial life is in ruins from a divorce.

Oh, and if you have kids that you love. LOL! They will be pawns in a divorce battle. You won’t get to see them, even if your wife is a total piece of shit. The law favors women. It’s astounding, and most men cannot even understand what is happening to them in divorce court. It’s that unfair.

And, as a criminal guy, I’ve seen more than a few cases where the mom puts their kids up to falsely accusing their dads of child abuse or sex abuse in order to extort a greater divorce settlement. Think your kid would never do that? Oh, believe me, I’ve seen a Father of the Year type accused of this. (And the kid later admitted the whole thing was a lie her mom put him up to.)

Talk to some lawyers. Most will tell you they will NEVER do family law. The women involved in family law are so disgusting. I would rather represent O.J. Simpson than the average female divorcee.

Again, if you think I’m jaded or whatever, ask around. No need to take my word for it, lol.[/quote]

You liar! You told me you were a femanist.

Tsk, tsk.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Mak… I don’t want to post the whole post, but sometimes the reason a man can work more hours is because the woman goes home and works in the home keeping things together without earning any pay for that work.[/quote]

Sorry, I was talking about single women and single men. But at any rate, an employer will look at quality and quantity of work and assess pay accordingly. If they don’t – I wouldn’t work there.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance![/quote]

I wash my own dishes.

How YOU doin’?

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
dk44 wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

I do love it when you guys start these “why women are evil” threads.

I do love it when you women comeback with “a woman’s work is never done” shit.

Yeah washing clothes was hard as fuck back in the day when you had to go down to the fuckin river and hand scrub, but washing clothes nowdays takes 2 fucking seconds. Dishes go in the dishwasher, food prep hardly happens as most rely more and more on takeout or microwave/oven food.

A man may work from sunrise to sunset, but a woman sits on her ass and then bitches about it.

(BTW I love you OG, and wasn’t talking to you specifically, now go wash my clothes.)

Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance!

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Bent over the sink…toiling away…providing sustenance…

So what you doing this Friday? Want to see a movie and then do some dishes…naked? I’ll bring the spunge.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote: I feel the love.

I don’t know how you men put up with us.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your world, being the miserable excuse for a being that I am.

All men are noble and good, thank God for their existence and I live to walk in the shadow of their greatness.

You can’t refute what I’ve said, so you play these games.

Silliness.

Fact is (and you can’t deny this) that the cards are stacked against men in family court, that women do all sorts of things to trick men into marriage (there are articles about this in Cosmo and other women’s interest magazines, so don’t play ignorant), and that women do all sorts of shady things in divorce court.[/quote]

Men don’t do shady things in divorce court? Men never hide assets? They never lie?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
dk44 wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

I do love it when you guys start these “why women are evil” threads.

I do love it when you women comeback with “a woman’s work is never done” shit.

Yeah washing clothes was hard as fuck back in the day when you had to go down to the fuckin river and hand scrub, but washing clothes nowdays takes 2 fucking seconds. Dishes go in the dishwasher, food prep hardly happens as most rely more and more on takeout or microwave/oven food.

A man may work from sunrise to sunset, but a woman sits on her ass and then bitches about it.

(BTW I love you OG, and wasn’t talking to you specifically, now go wash my clothes.)

Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance!

Bent over the sink…toiling away…providing sustenance…

So what you doing this Friday? Want to see a movie and then do some dishes…naked? I’ll bring the spunge.

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depends… where do you see this relationship going? How much do you make? Do you want to have kids?

Does this dress make me look fat???

[quote]Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Mak… I don’t want to post the whole post, but sometimes the reason a man can work more hours is because the woman goes home and works in the home keeping things together without earning any pay for that work.

Sorry, I was talking about single women and single men. But at any rate, an employer will look at quality and quantity of work and assess pay accordingly. If they don’t – I wouldn’t work there.[/quote]

In a perfect world, emloyers would only look at quality and quantity of work to assess pay.

It’s not the world we live in.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
depends… where do you see this relationship going? How much do you make? Do you want to have kids?

Does this dress make me look fat???[/quote]

You really know how to scare a man, don’t you?

[quote]Christine wrote:
In a perfect world, emloyers would only look at quality and quantity of work to assess pay.

It’s not the world we live in. [/quote]

You don’t work where I work then. Our boss looks at how much we bring in for the year and adjusts salary accordingly.

Ftw.

[quote]Christine wrote:
Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Mak… I don’t want to post the whole post, but sometimes the reason a man can work more hours is because the woman goes home and works in the home keeping things together without earning any pay for that work.

Sorry, I was talking about single women and single men. But at any rate, an employer will look at quality and quantity of work and assess pay accordingly. If they don’t – I wouldn’t work there.

In a perfect world, emloyers would only look at quality and quantity of work to assess pay.

It’s not the world we live in. [/quote]

exactly. They consider whether or not a woman has kids, will have kids, and to some extent women aren’t initially considered for leadership positions.

see, life depends on circumstances, we each have different situations, advantages and disadvantages

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
dk44 wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

I do love it when you guys start these “why women are evil” threads.

I do love it when you women comeback with “a woman’s work is never done” shit.

Yeah washing clothes was hard as fuck back in the day when you had to go down to the fuckin river and hand scrub, but washing clothes nowdays takes 2 fucking seconds. Dishes go in the dishwasher, food prep hardly happens as most rely more and more on takeout or microwave/oven food.

A man may work from sunrise to sunset, but a woman sits on her ass and then bitches about it.

(BTW I love you OG, and wasn’t talking to you specifically, now go wash my clothes.)

Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance!

Bent over the sink…toiling away…providing sustenance…

So what you doing this Friday? Want to see a movie and then do some dishes…naked? I’ll bring the spunge.

depends… where do you see this relationship going? How much do you make? Do you want to have kids?

Does this dress make me look fat???

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I see this relationship going to my bedroom or wherever the moment takes us. I make enough to get us a happy meal, as long as we share the fries. Kids? As many as you do or don’t want to have. Does that dress make you look fat? In all the right places.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Christine wrote:
In a perfect world, emloyers would only look at quality and quantity of work to assess pay.

It’s not the world we live in.

You don’t work where I work then. Our boss looks at how much we bring in for the year and adjusts salary accordingly.

Ftw.[/quote]

You live in the perfect world then? I have always heard good things about New Zealand.

Love kiwis too. But they don’t like immigrants do they?

Wanna get hitched? Or am I stepping on OG’s toes?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance!

Bent over the sink…toiling away…providing sustenance…

So what you doing this Friday? Want to see a movie and then do some dishes…naked? I’ll bring the spunge.

depends… where do you see this relationship going? How much do you make? Do you want to have kids?

Does this dress make me look fat???

I see this relationship going to my bedroom or wherever the moment takes us. I make enough to get us a happy meal, as long as we share the fries. Kids? As many as you do or don’t want to have. Does that dress make you look fat? In all the right places.[/quote]

can we get a McCookie too?

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

Good point about the laundry but I do think that in the majority of the cases women do a higher percentage of housework including laundry, cleaning and child rearing.

I don’t have a dishwasher, I am bent over my sink, hands plunged in boiling water, toiling away after slaving over a furnace of an oven or stove to provide sustenance!

Bent over the sink…toiling away…providing sustenance…

So what you doing this Friday? Want to see a movie and then do some dishes…naked? I’ll bring the spunge.

depends… where do you see this relationship going? How much do you make? Do you want to have kids?

Does this dress make me look fat???

I see this relationship going to my bedroom or wherever the moment takes us. I make enough to get us a happy meal, as long as we share the fries. Kids? As many as you do or don’t want to have. Does that dress make you look fat? In all the right places.

can we get a McCookie too?
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Anything for my lady. And I’ll get myself some McCookie later that night. Wink Wink

[quote]Christine wrote:
You live in the perfect world then? I have always heard good things about New Zealand.

Love kiwis too. But they don’t like immigrants do they?

Wanna get hitched? Or am I stepping on OG’s toes?[/quote]

I have a California King sized bed, you’ll both fit.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
btm62 wrote:
Frank Burns said it best, “I’ll kill her before I divorce her.”

Wood chipper!

Harhar, that’s funny. No, it’s not.

I’d much rather go to prison for life than lose half of my money. Yep, that makes sense.

There needs to be some element of truth in order for a joke to be funny. Nonsense is all I saw.[/quote]

Really, go reread some of your posts. I’m sure in your case she will probably kill your annoying ass first.

[quote]btm62 wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
btm62 wrote:
Frank Burns said it best, “I’ll kill her before I divorce her.”

Wood chipper!

Harhar, that’s funny. No, it’s not.

I’d much rather go to prison for life than lose half of my money. Yep, that makes sense.

There needs to be some element of truth in order for a joke to be funny. Nonsense is all I saw.

Really, go reread some of your posts. I’m sure in your case she will probably kill your annoying ass first.[/quote]

yeaaaahhhhh CLaw can be abrasive but I think he may be voicing the thoughts of a lot of men.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
btm62 wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
btm62 wrote:
Frank Burns said it best, “I’ll kill her before I divorce her.”

Wood chipper!

Harhar, that’s funny. No, it’s not.

I’d much rather go to prison for life than lose half of my money. Yep, that makes sense.

There needs to be some element of truth in order for a joke to be funny. Nonsense is all I saw.

Really, go reread some of your posts. I’m sure in your case she will probably kill your annoying ass first.

yeaaaahhhhh CLaw can be abrasive but I think he may be voicing the thoughts of a lot of men.

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Not me. I don’t believe in auto insurance.