[quote]bigurukhai wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:
You should have walked out of the gym, but instead of walking to your car, walked over to the nearest stop sign and ripped it out of the ground.
If that didn’t make them flee in terror, you should have taken off your shoe and held it out in front of you while walking toward them yelling, “WHAT’S MY BODYFAT, BENCH-HOGGIN’ MOTHERFUCKER!”.
If that didn’t do the trick you should have dropped trou and taken a dump on the hood of his car (in the absence of a skillet, of course).
I didn’t think it was possible to condense some of the funniest threads from T Nation into one post. Good work Digital, Readers Digest would be proud![/quote]
Thanks! I printed this post out and sent it to them to see if I could get on as a contributor. I’m still waiting to hear back from them.
[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
Seriously, is some borderline retarded knuckle dragger really worth fucking up your life over? You throw a punch and the door opens wide to assault arrests, lawsuits, possible jail time and a lot of hard-earned money down the drain…[/quote]
All my stupid antics aside, this pretty much sums up my real thoughts on the matter (good post, Jack). I have a 14 year old misdemeanor battery charge (from a parking lot fight, no less) that has closed countless doors for opportunity over the years and still haunts me to this day.
[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
A few years ago a similar thing happened to me inside the gym I was training at – although I only weighed 180 lbs. at the time so they weren’t “jealous of my size”. Maybe it was my rugged good looks?
When they followed me out to my car, I told them I couldn’t afford to get banned from the gym (because it was cheap and near my apartment) so if they wanted to fight, we’d have to go elsewhere. I said it in a matter-of-fact, semi-friendly way and this seemed to diffuse the situation. The rage cooled, and they backed off. I had no problems with them again.
Seriously, is some borderline retarded knuckle dragger really worth fucking up your life over? You throw a punch and the door opens wide to assault arrests, lawsuits, possible jail time and a lot of hard-earned money down the drain…
“I’ve had guns to my face and I backed down. Have you been there? And what did you do? Scare them with your crazy look?” BigSwede.
The internet dick wavers have all been there. They’re badasses. It’s quite obvious they’d rather sit in a dentists chair for a week getting false teeth implanted rather than lose the “respect” of some inbred redneck stranger…because they’re real men.
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No one is advocating this kid punched anyone in the mouth.
Had he carried himself with some confidence likely these fellow gym members who don’t want to f@#k up their lives either and whose names are registered at the same gym likely would have backed off.
It is becoming apparent from some of his other posts he has what can best be described as an obnoxious attitude that invites this type of reaction.
This whole thread reminds me of that 1987 movie three o’clock high where the nerd mans up and fights the lunatic bully at the end (in the school parking lot).
[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
A few years ago a similar thing happened to me inside the gym I was training at – although I only weighed 180 lbs. at the time so they weren’t “jealous of my size”. Maybe it was my rugged good looks?
When they followed me out to my car, I told them I couldn’t afford to get banned from the gym (because it was cheap and near my apartment) so if they wanted to fight, we’d have to go elsewhere. I said it in a matter-of-fact, semi-friendly way and this seemed to diffuse the situation. The rage cooled, and they backed off. I had no problems with them again.
Seriously, is some borderline retarded knuckle dragger really worth fucking up your life over? You throw a punch and the door opens wide to assault arrests, lawsuits, possible jail time and a lot of hard-earned money down the drain…
“I’ve had guns to my face and I backed down. Have you been there? And what did you do? Scare them with your crazy look?” BigSwede.
The internet dick wavers have all been there. They’re badasses. It’s quite obvious they’d rather sit in a dentists chair for a week getting false teeth implanted rather than lose the “respect” of some inbred redneck stranger…because they’re real men.
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I think you handled it the right way, they knew you would fight if you had to but you also told them you did not want to pay the price for a fight. The last fight I got into was that I was trying to be nice to avoid the fight .I think they thought because I was not some lunatic I was afraid to fight.
Personally I’m not going to join the bandwagon against the guy. Nobody has an idea of how these guys were going to act. If he’s never been in a fight before, there’s a good chance of a real beating. And worst yet, left dead in the parking lot. Read up on the currents events of today. I cannot tell you the number of times I’ve seen someone get killed over an Xbox, $20, or small despites. I even saw a little girl killed over a bowl of cereal.
Even if he made it through and kicked the sh*t out of them, who’s to say they won’t bring their posse back for revenge? If this aggressor waited for him in the parking lot this long, he was fuming. Him losing the fight throws gasoline on the fire. People aren’t about giving up anymore, or say they lost and give up, they come back with guns or more people.
People are psycho anymore. I still think you’re a pansy for the male escort. If it happens, go rage crazy and win any way possible. There are no rules for street fights.
[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
A few years ago a similar thing happened to me inside the gym I was training at – although I only weighed 180 lbs. at the time so they weren’t “jealous of my size”. Maybe it was my rugged good looks?
When they followed me out to my car, I told them I couldn’t afford to get banned from the gym (because it was cheap and near my apartment) so if they wanted to fight, we’d have to go elsewhere. I said it in a matter-of-fact, semi-friendly way and this seemed to diffuse the situation. The rage cooled, and they backed off. I had no problems with them again.
Seriously, is some borderline retarded knuckle dragger really worth fucking up your life over? You throw a punch and the door opens wide to assault arrests, lawsuits, possible jail time and a lot of hard-earned money down the drain…
“I’ve had guns to my face and I backed down. Have you been there? And what did you do? Scare them with your crazy look?” BigSwede.
The internet dick wavers have all been there. They’re badasses. It’s quite obvious they’d rather sit in a dentists chair for a week getting false teeth implanted rather than lose the “respect” of some inbred redneck stranger…because they’re real men.
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In one paragraph you state how you confronted these thugs and defused the situation. Then in the next you thrash those who would have done the same thing. Doesn’t make sense, unless I’m misunderstanding.
In your situation you didn’t back down or run for help, you stood your ground. If those guys decided to pound you anyway, would you not have still stood your ground?
The way you handled yourself was a whole lot more respectable than the OPs in my opinion.
Without reading the next 8 pages, I would like to offer a solution.
Next time your working out and he is there, pick up a large DB (100lbs or so). Walk up to him and drop the fucker on his foot or chest is lying down. Then say your very sorry, and that it slipped by accident.
BigSwede, would you be happy if we “internet badasses” just told you that we’d run scared?
Like I wrote earlier, the moment you say you would’ve handled the situation in a more masculine manner, you’re all of a sudden a blowhard that only talks tough on a keyboard.
OK, you win. We’d all scream, piss our drawers and tell mommy on them.
And to think you’d actually believe there are those of us out there with balls enough to stick up for ourselves? Come on Swede, You obviously know better. Afterall we live in Disneyland (or was it DisneyWorld?) and we’re all scared of our own shadow here in the U.S.
And by the way, (And I think I’m speaking for a few other MEN out there and on this thread). Similar to Comedian Ron White saying “I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain to eat CARROTS!”, I don’t squat, deadlift, clean, snatch, chin, bench, dip, row, press and curl day-in-day-out just to run from every confrontation I find myself in.
Oooops, I just broke another keyboard with my tough-typing!
Wow…Yea, to be honest with you, people do that shit to me all the time. Thats why I flat out refuse to go to bars or clubs, as the “little guys” always want to challenge someone bigger to improve their own faltering ego. Good move not fighting man. It isn’t worth the possible legal ramifications if something happened.
People just dont get it. Its not “Right! Who’s looking at me sideways - gonna tear them a new ass”, its about not being intimidated. A punk is more likely to want to fight someone who looks like they’ll lose rather than someone who looks like they can look after themselves.
You dont have to walk around flexing your biceps 2 inches from everyones face (unless they ask of course) but just walking with your head up and acting as if theres no one else around is sufficient.
And isnt calling for backup the same as saying that your ready for a fight anyway? Getting on wid yo bidness says “hmm, tough or not? cant tell. better back off for a bit”. Getting backup says “ah bitach, you cant fight so you need a friend”. ’
Not that the person IS a biatch, but thats how one would be portrayed. Better to walk tall and have people THINK you can handle yourself than cry for moms and get picked on the rest of your life.
[quote]Neebone wrote:
People just dont get it. Its not “Right! Who’s looking at me sideways - gonna tear them a new ass”, its about not being intimidated. A punk is more likely to want to fight someone who looks like they’ll lose rather than someone who looks like they can look after themselves.
You dont have to walk around flexing your biceps 2 inches from everyones face (unless they ask of course) but just walking with your head up and acting as if theres no one else around is sufficient.
And isnt calling for backup the same as saying that your ready for a fight anyway? Getting on wid yo bidness says “hmm, tough or not? cant tell. better back off for a bit”. Getting backup says “ah bitach, you cant fight so you need a friend”. ’
Not that the person IS a biatch, but thats how one would be portrayed. Better to walk tall and have people THINK you can handle yourself than cry for moms and get picked on the rest of your life.[/quote]
I do agree with some of what you are saying; however, the smart fighter is the fighter who understands as many intangibles in the given situation as possible and plans successfully for those as is immediatly appropriate. To walk into a situation for pride alone knowing you are outnumbered or something of the like doesnt make you hard, it makes you stupid. That is simply my opinion and it is backed for me with plenty of real world experience.
A smart fighter doesnt fight for egos sake, but for survival. If ego comes into question, you have a lot more issues than some random punk in the parking lot.
[quote]Neebone wrote:
People just dont get it. Its not “Right! Who’s looking at me sideways - gonna tear them a new ass”, its about not being intimidated. A punk is more likely to want to fight someone who looks like they’ll lose rather than someone who looks like they can look after themselves.
You dont have to walk around flexing your biceps 2 inches from everyones face (unless they ask of course) but just walking with your head up and acting as if theres no one else around is sufficient.
And isnt calling for backup the same as saying that your ready for a fight anyway? Getting on wid yo bidness says “hmm, tough or not? cant tell. better back off for a bit”. Getting backup says “ah bitach, you cant fight so you need a friend”. ’
Not that the person IS a biatch, but thats how one would be portrayed. Better to walk tall and have people THINK you can handle yourself than cry for moms and get picked on the rest of your life.[/quote]
Right on! I even wrote something similar a few pages back but they STILL don’t get it. Real men don’t LOOK for a fight. Real men aren’t interested in senseless violence. Real men don’t strut around trying to intimidate others.
Real men however, DO NOT run and hide at the first hint of confrontation or danger.
What I don’t get is the number of posters on this thread who equate standing tall in the situation and not running with your tail betwenn your legs as “internet badass” behavior.
You don’t have to be a badass to show some sack. All he could have said was," You guys have a problem? Cool. Wanna do something about it? Cool. I’m going to my car. See ya." Likely, they wouldn’t have done SHIT. And if they had, well, it’s reall easy to separate two guys in a parking lot full of cars. It’s not like he was in a corner.
