Gym Calls Cops on Heavy Squatter

[quote]brian.m wrote:
i dont know what the situation is like where you are, but for a lot of people, there is not a lot of choices within driving distance…and if they’re squeezing out the competition (as mentioned by somebody else) this is a direct concern to many, as not all of us have access to the same facilities…

i think this is partly why people are so frusterated, becuse they (serious lifters) are already aware their situation is not ideal, but they try to make the best of it regardless, and then to have this thrown in our faces after is a little bit like salt to a wound[/quote]

Okay, that is a great point, and I really have little argument.

I was using my own experiences as a gauge. Around here, there are 7 fitness facilities in a 5 mile radius, which I would assume is not the case for most people.

If you are a serious lifter and have to join PF because you literally have no other option, then yea I can totally undetrstand the frustration and some level of bitterness. I really don’t have an argument for that, honestly.

Obviously trying to make the best of it is the only answer. Still, regardless of anything else, if you join a gym you follow their rules.

I currently work out at planet fitness, it was once a golds gym, it was bought by PF.

I think issues are based on managers and employees, when it first changed everything was cool, all the guys from the old golds gym either hit up LA fitness or Planet Fitness. LA is 4x more expensive and enforce their rules to the maximum in that specific location so most stayed at PF…

At 2 month mark we had a temporary manager because the other took a vacation, it was horrible, she was a bitch, no deadlifting, no chalk, lunk alarm goes off every 10 minutes, it was a pain in the ass.

After she left everything went back to normal, deadlifting, chalk if you clean it up, dropping weights if its necessary and 8 Db handles to let the big boys play with weights.

For 10$ a month, having no car to travel anywhere out of bus range, planet fitness is my best choice.

We can also use chains, bands and everything i can think of…

Only thing we cant do is have bags on the gym floor because some people were jacking plates…

John, so what are the rules concerning stuff like that one grunt and your kicked out? dropping weights, chalk?

[quote]John Roman wrote:

As a counterpoint, I’ll mention that I agree with a prediciton made by Dave Tate in his recent interview. He said that he thinks that in a few years a lot of smaller, dungeon/hardcore gyms will pop up all over, to service the populations of lifters that have been displaced by larger corporate gyms. it’s just going to take some time.
[/quote]
I don’t know if I agree with that, only because I don’t know how hardcore the ones really bitching and moaning are. Most of the hardcore bodybuilders are going to get there workout on wherever. They just need to be able to do it, and the corporate gyms just tend to be the most convenient. Most of the ones making money, all workout at one particular elite gym. The average hardcore wannabe just seen too many ads with the skull cap, torn shirt, yelling and think thats what makes you big. Half of them don’t have any progress to show for it, and really don’t frequent gyms long enough to support a place just because it’s hardcore.

I have seen a pick up(at least in jersey) of the sports gyms. You know the ones with sledgehammers, tires, speed training and strong man stuff.

I love T-Nation we can turn a dodgeball spoof into a serious debate.

i just read through this thread and found it very sad. gyms like Planet Fitness and the like are all about making money. They want you to join and never come back… but be sure to keep paying that membership. In my opinion, the Lunk Alarm was invented to get all the serious lifters to quit. Because as we all know, only the serious lifters are religious about going to the gym all the time.

These gyms aren’t making any money off of them. I’m sure these gyms don’t have a cap on how many people join either. could you imagine if even half of their members were to show up on a regular basis.

But can you really blame the establishment? Our society in general is made up mostly of lazy weak minded and bodied individuals. These buisnesses are just catering to that. People want to join a gym to feel better about themselves… but they won’t go.

And if they do go… once in a blue moon, they don’t want to see anyone actually doing anything productive because that would just remind them of how weak and insignificant their existance is. So, instead we have these “Fitness Facilities” full of exotic equipment designed to make “working out” as pain free and uncomfortable as possible.

I think it’s horrible and i weep for the future… unfortunately, like most here… I’m in a very small minority.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i just read through this thread and found it very sad. gyms like Planet Fitness and the like are all about making money. They want you to join and never come back… but be sure to keep paying that membership. In my opinion, the Lunk Alarm was invented to get all the serious lifters to quit. Because as we all know, only the serious lifters are religious about going to the gym all the time.

These gyms aren’t making any money off of them. I’m sure these gyms don’t have a cap on how many people join either. could you imagine if even half of their members were to show up on a regular basis.

But can you really blame the establishment? Our society in general is made up mostly of lazy weak minded and bodied individuals. These buisnesses are just catering to that. People want to join a gym to feel better about themselves… but they won’t go.

And if they do go… once in a blue moon, they don’t want to see anyone actually doing anything productive because that would just remind them of how weak and insignificant their existance is. So, instead we have these “Fitness Facilities” full of exotic equipment designed to make “working out” as pain free and uncomfortable as possible.

I think it’s horrible and i weep for the future… unfortunately, like most here… I’m in a very small minority. [/quote]

Man Hug Time!!!

If people are as “serious” as they say they are, they’ll get on with it.

For this discution I borrowed an extract of the book “Dinosaur Training”, of Brooks Kubik:

The reason why most modern training is non-productive is simple: most people who train with weights nowadays are not interested in serious results. Most people who lift weights do so for reasons that have nothing to do with developing ferocious muscular strength and raw,terrifying power.

These are the type of members the modern gyms go out of their way to attract. In fact, they are really the only type of members the modern gyms are interested in having.

Most gyms want members who will be content to play around with aerobic exercises, machine movements and light, light poundages. They cater to members who use the gym for
socializing or as a pick-up bar. The LAST thing they want is someone who is interested in serious training.
The typical gym is crammed with non-essential machines, most of which are less than half as functional as if they were designed by a baboon and assembled by an orangutan.

The purpose of the machines is to entice members of the public into shelling out their cash to join the establishment and reap the benefits of training on what the instructors (who are nothing more than glorified sales-people) tell them are the latest and most scientific and high tech machines on the market.

Ninety percent of the equipment in the average gym could be melted down or sold for scrap without diminishing the value of the place one iota. What else takes up space in the typical gym? The typical instructor, a mindless goofball who doesn’t have the faintest beginning of a glimmer of a shadow of a clue about what productive training is all about.

My golden retrievers, Sam and Spenser, could do a better job of training gym members than does the average instructor, manager, or gym owner. Ask the average instructor or gym owner to demonstrate the one arm deadlift.

Ask him about breathing squats. See what he knows about Olympic lifting. Check out his form in the one arm snatch. Watch him try to clean and press bodyweight. Ask him about round back lifting, Joe Hise, the 5x5 system, rack work, Herman Goerner, heavy singles, Clyde Emrich, Indian clubs, the farmer?s walk, the Roman column, hip belt squats, barrel lifting, or Arthur Saxon.

You’d be amazed at what the guy DOESN?T know. As a group, modern weight training instructors and gym owners are clear proof that some people use the air hoses at gas stations to inflate their heads every day.

Then you have the typical gym member - who is usually young, spoiled, pampered and far more interested in looking pretty than in training hard. In fact, the average gym member
would run in terror if you tried to make him train HARD on even a single set of a single exercise. A set of breathing squats would kill him. In fact, a hard set of curls or presses would be more than he could handle. Even WATCHING hard work would make him sick. He’d toss his cookies if he saw a dinosaur train!

Put them all together and you have an institution that promotes mass insanity instead of rational weight training. The idiot machines are designed to let people PRETEND they are lifting weights.

The instructors prepare workout programs that let members PRETEND they
are training. And the members are perfectly content to go right along with the whole scam."

So, well said

[quote]lloydk wrote:
It’s simple. Don’t go to Planet Fitness if you don’t like the fucking place. If it’s not totally obvious to you that PF isn’t a weightlifting specific gym, then you yourself should even be allowed near 5lb dumbbells for your own safety. Your obsession with lifting weights is yours alone, not anybody else’s.

Also, look at the video, all the members look like they’re all over 50.

Man up, shut the fuck up crying, and go somewhere else. The gym is theirs, they choose the rules.

PS: The no grunting rule is kind of dumb though. Why would you even stay in a place like that if you know you’re going to grunt and get thrown out?

So, for all the bitchers; Drop the iron, stop the grunting, and return yourself to Planet Fitness.[/quote]

I dunno if my obsession is mine alone … it looks like there’s quite a healthy obsession with a lot of the guys on this website from what I’ve noticed; you and I probably share similar obsessions … but I get what you’re saying big guy and agree with about 98% of what you said.

[quote]Murasame wrote:
For this discution I borrowed an extract of the book “Dinosaur Training”, of Brooks Kubik:

The reason why most modern training is non-productive is simple: most people who train
with weights nowadays are not interested in serious results. Most people who lift weights do
so for reasons that have nothing to do with developing ferocious muscular strength and raw,
terrifying power. These are the type of members the modern gyms go out of their way to
attract. In fact, they are really the only type of members the modern gyms are interested in
having.

Most gyms want members who will be content to play around with aerobic exercises,
machine movements and light, light poundages. They cater to members who use the gym for
socializing or as a pick-up bar. The LAST thing they want is someone who is interested in
serious training.

The typical gym is crammed with non-essential machines, most of which are less than half as
functional as if they were designed by a baboon and assembled by an orangutan.

The purpose of the machines is to entice members of the public into shelling out their cash to join the establishment and reap the ?benefits? of training on what the instructors (who are nothing
more than glorified sales-people) tell them are the ?latest? and ?most scientific and high tech?
machines on the market.

Ninety percent of the equipment in the average gym could be melted
down or sold for scrap without diminishing the value of the place one iota.

What else takes up space in the typical gym? The typical instructor?a mindless goofball who
doesn?t have the faintest beginning of a glimmer of a shadow of a clue about what productive
training is all about. My golden retrievers, Sam and Spenser, could do a better job of training
gym members than does the average instructor, manager, or gym owner.

Ask the average instructor or gym owner to demonstrate the one arm deadlift. Ask him about
breathing squats. See what he knows about Olympic lifting. Check out his form in the one
arm snatch. Watch him try to clean and press bodyweight.

Ask him about round back lifting,
Joe Hise, the 5x5 system, rack work, Herman Goerner, heavy singles, Clyde Emrich, Indian
clubs, the farmer?s walk, the Roman column, hip belt squats, barrel lifting, or Arthur Saxon.
You?d be amazed at what the guy DOESN?T know. As a group, modern weight training
instructors and gym owners are clear proof that some people use the air hoses at gas stations
to inflate their heads every day.

Then you have the typical gym member - who is usually young, spoiled, pampered and far
more interested in looking pretty than in training hard. In fact, the average gym member
would run in terror if you tried to make him train HARD on even a single set of a single
exercise. A set of breathing squats would kill him. In fact, a hard set of curls or presses would
be more than he could handle.

Even WATCHING hard work would make him sick. He?d toss his cookies if he saw a dinosaur train!
Put them all together and you have an institution that promotes mass insanity instead of
rational weight training.

The idiot machines are designed to let people PRETEND they are
lifting weights. The instructors prepare workout programs that let members PRETEND they
are training. And the members are perfectly content to go right along with the whole scam.

So, well said[/quote]

If we ever get hover chairs invented, the entire planet will look like those fat lazy cartoon fuckers on Wall-E.

I don’t think the issue is whether or not PF has a right to exist, but its there attitude toward people who do want to lift seriously. I don’t give a fuck if they want to screw around with no grunting or slamming, I’m not working out there.

But the whole concept of a lunk alarm, and the interviews I have seen with the idiots that go to this place are insulting. They all have the “if you lift weights you’re a meat head attitude”.

Their business model is however ingenious. Lets find all the people who want to belong to a gym that caters to people who are intimidated, and then make sure they never progress so they will always be intimidated. We can even give them bagels, pizza and candy!!!

[quote]polo77j wrote:
lloydk wrote:
It’s simple. Don’t go to Planet Fitness if you don’t like the fucking place. If it’s not totally obvious to you that PF isn’t a weightlifting specific gym, then you yourself should even be allowed near 5lb dumbbells for your own safety. Your obsession with lifting weights is yours alone, not anybody else’s.

Also, look at the video, all the members look like they’re all over 50.

Man up, shut the fuck up crying, and go somewhere else. The gym is theirs, they choose the rules.

PS: The no grunting rule is kind of dumb though. Why would you even stay in a place like that if you know you’re going to grunt and get thrown out?

So, for all the bitchers; Drop the iron, stop the grunting, and return yourself to Planet Fitness.

I dunno if my obsession is mine alone … it looks like there’s quite a healthy obsession with a lot of the guys on this website from what I’ve noticed; you and I probably share similar obsessions … but I get what you’re saying big guy and agree with about 98% of what you said. [/quote]

LOL that we have people in gyms lifting weights…who have no “obsession to lift weights”.

If you don’t enjoy this shit at all, you will fail at it.

In a perfect world, people who hated being in gyms would just stay the fuck home…not have “gyms” built to cater to their own lack of interest.

Oh well.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
polo77j wrote:
lloydk wrote:
It’s simple. Don’t go to Planet Fitness if you don’t like the fucking place. If it’s not totally obvious to you that PF isn’t a weightlifting specific gym, then you yourself should even be allowed near 5lb dumbbells for your own safety. Your obsession with lifting weights is yours alone, not anybody else’s.

Also, look at the video, all the members look like they’re all over 50.

Man up, shut the fuck up crying, and go somewhere else. The gym is theirs, they choose the rules.

PS: The no grunting rule is kind of dumb though. Why would you even stay in a place like that if you know you’re going to grunt and get thrown out?

So, for all the bitchers; Drop the iron, stop the grunting, and return yourself to Planet Fitness.

I dunno if my obsession is mine alone … it looks like there’s quite a healthy obsession with a lot of the guys on this website from what I’ve noticed; you and I probably share similar obsessions … but I get what you’re saying big guy and agree with about 98% of what you said.

LOL that we have people in gyms lifting weights…who have no “obsession to lift weights”.

If you don’t enjoy this shit at all, you will fail at it.

In a perfect world, people who hated being in gyms would just stay the fuck home…not have “gyms” built to cater to their own lack of interest.

Oh well.[/quote]

There is more to a gym than weights though, and that’s especially true for these large brand gyms. Also, these people probably aren’t enjoying it, they’re doing it to lose a couple pounds, or stay healthy.

What we have is people gradually getting worse, from a health point of view (obesity, skinny shit, blah blah), and a “good body” seems to be the in thing at the moment, so these gyms are always going to prosper.

Fuck it, I’m moving from one of those big gyms to a smaller weight lifting orientated as we speak. I don’t have time to stand about and discuss the dynamics of it (not with them, at least), I just want to get things done.

PS: This place is our safe haven though, right? Let’s leave those bone bags in the cold.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
If we ever get hover chairs invented, the entire planet will look like those fat lazy cartoon fuckers on Wall-E.[/quote]

Not meaning to hijack too much, I’m enjoying the discussion here, but I think the developers of Wall-E is saying the same shit we are - That’s a good point.

They may not be serious weight-lifters, as many on this site are, but at least there’s “normal” people that are actually recognizing that there’s a lazy-ass pussy disease running rampant in our society, too.

Maybe we’re not in the minority as much as we think we are… I was telling my PARENTS about the video today (they are not physically active whatsoever) and thought it was fucking retarded.

I think this particular Planet Fitness incident is more over-the-top than even most commercialized gyms, but still, at least there’s non-lifters recognizing that there is a problem.

[quote]
Professor X wrote:
If we ever get hover chairs invented, the entire planet will look like those fat lazy cartoon fuckers on Wall-E.[/quote]

But… we’ll still have hover chairs!!!

By the way, how we can care about being healthy … taking a lot of chemicals…

He should have twisted that fat, ugly bitch’s head off…

Planet Fitness is an ingenious business model from a money making perspective.

[quote]Tumbles wrote:

Professor X wrote:
If we ever get hover chairs invented, the entire planet will look like those fat lazy cartoon fuckers on Wall-E.

But… we’ll still have hover chairs!!!
[/quote]

and how fucking cool would that be?

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
He should have twisted that fat, ugly bitch’s head off… [/quote]

… as long as he didn’t grunt while doing so :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though, why is he even doing a 500 lb squat in that place. The writing was on the WALL: “Your kind is not wanted here.” His mistake was ever joining that “gym” in the first place. Buy a squat rack.

[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
He should have twisted that fat, ugly bitch’s head off…

… as long as he didn’t grunt while doing so :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though, why is he even doing a 500 lb squat in that place. The writing was on the WALL: “Your kind is not wanted here.” His mistake was ever joining that “gym” in the first place. Buy a squat rack.[/quote]

I don’t know…if I was really bored, I could see doing something like that just to see how long it would take them to throw me out.

But I agree, I am not sure why anyone serious would ever get a membership there. One walk through the gym should have been a huge indicator that this wasn’t the place to make progress beyond where he was.