[quote]kothreat wrote:
fraggle wrote:
kothreat wrote:
fraggle wrote:
I’ve talked about this with a lot of people so far, and everyone is suprised that it hadn’t happened before.
Apparently the organization is a nightmare to deal with, regardless of whether you have a legitimate claim.
seriously? so you think arming yourself and taking hostages is a proactive way to deal with getting jerked around by the system?
i’m surprised that the people you’ve talked to are surprised this hasn’t happened before. how unstable are people getting?
You really need to work on your reading comprehension.
Just because someone isn’t surprised by something doesn’t mean they approve. Are you surprised if someone flashes a bunch of cash in a bad neighbourhood, and gets mugged? Do you disapprove or approve of mugging those people? Expectations about an occurrence and a moral judgement about that occurrence are separate.
If you create a situation where an organization makes people frustrated, and are in desparate circumstances due to an inability to work. Then have the organizations employees show indifference or even be antagonistic to those people. To top it all off, these people are forced to contribute to this organization that they feel is screwing them over. What do you think will happen eventually?
Someone snapped, and like I said, the people I spoke with were surprised that it hasn’t happened before.
to make the leap from waving a wad of cash in a bad neighborhood and getting mugged isn’t a very far one. that shit should be common sense. but, to liken that to getting fucked by some organization and storming the place commando style is pretty silly.
i’ve been laid off three times in the past year (thank you oil industry) and have come quite close to being homeless. so that means people should be surprised that i didn’t take a gun into suncor head offices and hold people hostage because they could longer employ me, which lead my dire situation?
i mean thousands of people were laid off, it’s bound to happen sooner or later. i call bullshit.
it’s a sad day in my world when people aren’t surprised that a man thought this was the only way to deal with his situation.
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The point of that example was that saying an event isn’t a surprise, does not mean one approves or disapproves of that event, which is what you felt I said in my first point.
By the way, your lay off example is weak. If you get laid off, you can find a new job, or two if needed, or go on EI if you qualify. In the worst case, EI cuts you a check in what, a month? If you get hurt and apply for WC, you can’t do the same job, and may not be capable of working at all. I talked with a client this afternoon who spent three months seeing multiple doctors before she saw a dime from WCB, and she had fractured her sacrum. From what I’ve heard, that seems to be more the norm than the exception.
As workers, we are required by law to pay WCB premiums. If we want to get disability insurance from a different company, we still have to pay the WCB premiums. This is in addition to what employers pay on our behalf. They have a government mandated monopoly, which would make one believe that they are affiliated with the government. This makes people think they will be treated fairly and with respect. They find out they were wrong on all accounts.
So, you have a population who are stressed from an injury. You then have them deal with an organization that frustrates them further, and treats them with hostility. This is made worse by the expectations of fair treatment. Then add in money troubles when they get dicked around by that organization. Eventually, what is going to happen? Someone a little off to begin with snaps. How is that surprising?