[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
Mikeyali, I’ve looked at the University of Idaho Student Code of conduct and the Administrative Procedures manual, and both do specifically prohibit firearms on campus, with a few exceptions. She can, for example, bring her pistol to the Memorial Gym firing range, as long as it is cased and unloaded, with a trigger lock in place (thanks a lot!)
However, Idaho is a “shall issue” state, so if your girlfriend is 21 or over, has no criminal record, and can legally own and demonstrate proficiency with a handgun, then the sheriff of the county must issue her a concealed carry license within ninety days of her applying for one.
I would run this by a lawyer first, but apparently she would not be violating any state, county or city ordinance by carrying concealed on campus, only university policy. God forbid she should ever have to use the weapon, but if she does, at least she won’t be breaking any “real” laws.
If she is not already proficient with her handgun, then I suggest she receive competent coaching on drawing, stance, aiming, breath control, trigger control and reloading, as well as weapon retention and combat mindset. When she can consistently draw from concealed carry, and achieve first-round hits at ranges between arms-length and seven meters, in under two seconds, then she may consider herself well-armed.
She should also read two books: In the Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob, and Principles of Personal Defence by Jeff Cooper.
Best of luck to both of you.
V
Yeah, we’re digging into the law on this still. The fact is that if Idaho allows open carry and has state preemption it seems as if the university cannot enforce this law considering that it is a public university and doesn’t fall into any school zone rules.
Regardless, while I do think everyone should carry, I do think that you should know what the heck you’re doing with a weapon before you brandish it. She is actually a mighty fine shot. I’ve got her pretty well versed in immediate action drills if someone were to place a hand on her weapon via arm bars, ect.
The fact is that any place you are not allowed to be armed is a place that doesn’t respect the primary rule of freedom which is self-preservation. If anything can be considered a natural right, this is it. Any government that takes away your right to self-preservation also denies your very RIGHT to exist thus making you a subject, not a citizen.
She and I open carry for a few reasons:
1)Getting a concealed carry permit recognizes the government’s right to infringe upon your rights.
2)My own self-preservation
3)The protection of others around me. This is also why I am a trained first responder.
4)Concealed culture is a dying culture. When gun culture dies, American liberty will be but a breath away from extinction, and in my mind, this is the last bastion of freedom in the world.
5)Last but not least as a political statement. I am a sovereign individual and a citizen, not a subject. Herein lies most people’s issues with firearms. In the event that my or your rights are tresspassed upon I can immediately protect them with violence, disciplined and controlled fire regardless of who is trying to enforce a “law”. This makes people uneasy though I do not understand why. The only people that should be ill at ease are those “little tyrants” bent on doing harm. The trained and armed citizen is an asset to his community.
Got a little preachy there guys, my apologies.
Mike
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I agree with what you say here.You are obviously well trained and conscious of your responsibilities as far as gun carry goes.My concern is with the vast majority of gun carriers that are not well trained and do very
little or no ongoing training to maitain the required level of expertise.
While requiring high levels of competency to be proved to the licencing authorities might be seen as a enchroachment of ones rights,being shot as an innocent bystander by a badly trained individual is most certainly a violation of ones rights.
The myopic nature of most individuals renders then unable to self monitor this kind of situation,I believe.
So how does one insure that those that do carry are properly trained,do you all think?