That’s an interesting point. Hadn’t admittedly thought of it before.
If a baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay man, does the gay man have to then prove it’s BECAUSE he’s gay? Could the cake baker say “it’s because he was wearing Nike shoes, and I’m Adidas for lyfe”
Obviously the government views drinking age as different from driving age or selective service age.
Which is where he screwed up.
He can’t purchase for someone else. You can’t purchase without a permit to purchase. I think it is unquestionably discrimination. Which goes to show that discrimination is not always bad or illegal.
If someone was taking the NRA course and the instructor thought he was crazy based on things he was saying or doing or if he behaved in a way that made him a danger to everyone on the range. If the instructor refused to put him through the course and it turned out the person was indeed mentally disturbed, did he just discriminate against the handicapped? Yes and there is nothing wrong or illegal about it. You can’t force a private citizen or a privately owned range to accommodate everyone.
It’s like any court case when it comes to burden of proof.
The baker doesn’t have to give a reason at all.
Where do you live, North Korea?
Agreed, but that doesn’t mean people & government doesn’t look to these other things for guidance or as proof of concept or as a selling point to the people, which was my point. First it’s no guns until 21, then it’s no voting until 21, then it’s no driving until 21, then it’s no guns until 25…
The problem I have with this is that you’re giving a person with no training in how to diagnose a mental disorder de facto gun control authority. At least where you’re from.
Arguable, particularly the legal part.
agreed; except where anti-discrimination law applies.
In CT, the path to gun ownership of any kind all follows the strictest path: CCW. They used to differentiate between hunting rifles and shotguns or hand guns that would remain in the home. If you were military or former military it was very easy to purchase a gun for hunting. Not anymore because of Sandy Hook.
The bright side is that it isn’t as bad as Jersey.
That is certianly a valid way to thin k of things.
But they would be qualified to pass or fail someone. They aren’t failing the person because he is blind but because he couldn’t pass (because he was blind). He isn’t failing the person because he is crazy but because his behaviors (which may be the result of mental illness) won’t allow him to pass.
Range safety would trump those laws.
Where do you live? That sounds, and probably is, unconstitutional. You may be thinking of it being a requirement to get a CCW, but not to purchase a weapon.
All these new laws being proposed are a joke. Being 21 a requirement to buy a rifle? Why? Only one of these mass shooters was under 21 who purchased the gun himself. Stop writing knee jerk laws for one off’s.
It also seems like half of you dont realize that almost every weapon sold today is a semi-automatic. Handguns and rifles…
The AR-15 has been around for over 50 years. It hasnt changed, society has…
Stop giving trophies to kids for everything. Prepare them for the harsh realities of life and they wont lash out at society when they figure out that they arent special and life can be full of set backs.
Stop with the psychotropic drugs…Not every kid has ADD just because the have trouble settling down.
Society needs to change, not gun laws. When I was a kid, people took guns to school and left them in our cars, yet no-one shot up the schools…
Think about what we had back then that is gone now. Competition…god…discipline…boys were boys and girls were girls, not “fluid”…boys had a responsibility to protect the weaker girls. It gave them purpose. Boys have no purpose now… The only purpose they have is to sit in their bedrooms and shoot strangers in the head on their video games. We wonder what is wrong…
Fix our society. It will do more than any law.
In this country? Not sure I’d take that bet.
Makes sense.
If he isn’t listening, isn’t doing as he’s told, etc… Sure, that makes sense. If the instructor just looks at him and DQs him because “he looks crazy” that doesn’t make sense to me.
Just saw this
Yeah, that sucks. They had good prices on ammo and usually had good sales on it too. I never have seen semi-auto riffles sold at my personal Dick’s, but still. Gun is a tool. The maniac behind it is the problem.
I repeat that the background checks need to work if we are going to have them, otherwise what’s the point? That kid should have never been able to get a bee bee gun with the record and mental health issues he amassed.
So to be clear, I am for background checks. Ones that work.
Weapons bans won’t work when you have a billion options…
That’s true… I am for the opposite. If you are old enough to kill for the country you’re an adult, period. You should be able to do everything an adult can do…
Boom…yup.
Ahh, the joys the post-modernists society have given us. Morality is relative, but emotion is objective.
Does the state law in NJ Napolitano cites extend beyond employment? He’s right that a number of states have a lower floor for their own age discrimination claims, but most state versions of this law are like the federal law in that they are limited to the workplace, not commerce.
Also hilarious is Napolitano - hardcore libertarian - taking the position that businesses should not always be able to do what they want in terms of who they serve, etc. because a business is not entitled to deny you your “civil rights”.
Given libertarian history, what % of you is shocked?
A number less than zero. Assuming that’s possible. 
He’s just stating the way things are. Listen from about 1:10-1:25; he says it would be nice if businesses were permitted to deny service to anyone for any reason, but there are civil rights laws denying them that ability.
But not every 18 year old is in the military. Not every 18 year old would qualify. Not every person in the military, regardless of age, is going to be doing any killing.
We also have a volunteer force.
What point are your trying to make?
Certificate of Eligibility for Pistol and Revolvers or Long Guns or Ammunition required to purchase handguns, long guns or ammunition, respectively or a State Permit to Carry Pistols and Revolvers to purchase any of the above. Applicants must complete an approved safety course, and pass a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check and mental health records check prior to issuance of certificate.
That just because 18 year olds might be in the military doesn’t mean that somehow all 18 year olds suddenly should be viewed as in the military. It takes more than being 18 to be in the military.
Zero… I was excited about Libertarianism in the '90’s. I thought it had a real shot at becoming a legit 3rd party and then it just, fell apart. Some serious loons gravitated toward it and took it over and essentially relegated it to the lunatic fringe. Being all over the place, hence, does not surprise me.