Other places can deal with their problems just as we need to deal with ours.
As far as the swords thing, well that’s all of medival europe, China and Japan. Basically any fuedal culture that had swords. As far as what they did in Africa and the Americas, I don’t know.
As far as single women using firearms to defend themselves, well I’d have to some research to find links. I know in the NRA’s monthly magazine they have self pages of stories every month, but I don’t have a subscription, because I’m not a member. Is it a statistically significant percentage of people wounded or killed with firearms? I don’t know. Really no one knows, because no one is keeping data on what percentage of shootings were justified.
But again, how would a single woman defend herself against an intruder in her home?
I see news tonight that he was outside the building when the shooting started, heard the gunfire, and decided against going inside to protect the students.
I’m not against heightened security in schools, but I have serious doubts as to how effective it will be.
That’s why I was never really willing to put my stock in the rent a cop option that many of these schools employ. My high school had some cop academy dropout guy that roamed the halls. Guy spent most of his time weirdly hitting on upper class girls.
In some areas (my area, for example) there are usually 1-2 on duty cops at each of the local high schools. 3-4 each morning for scans on the way in and then usually there’d be 1 stationed at the front door and 1 acting as a hall monitor.
I wonder if urban schools are safer from mass shootings because they have been more aware of violence and crime because of location and student body.
That’s probably one of the reasons. Another being the pussies that shoot up schools require a pretty big power differential. You can describe inner city schools a lot of ways, “timid” isn’t usually a common one. Neither is “I strongly believe nobody in this school is armed with anything.”
Edit: Thought of another one. Proximity/speed at which LEOs with adequate experience will be on site.
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I think it’s simpler than all that. Inner city kids have real…almost adult level problems. They’re worried about their family getting evicted, or getting abused by adults, drug and alcohol problems, gang violence etc… They don’t have time to dream up blaze of glory murder spree scenarios.
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Same. This notion that the remedy is an added “man with a gun” is based on a view informed by watching too many action movies.
Something else might be the availability of a semi auto in an inner city. You won’t buy one legally because of the laws and they cost too much anyway if you were allowed to buy one, and illegal ones are even more expensive.
I lived in an inner city and deal with inner city kids almost every day. They really don’t worry about those things as much as you would think. People have a very good ability to adapt and see all sorts of messed up things as normal. If they really cared about those things they would do better in school in order to escape them.
It wasn’t an armed guard but an actual deputy, an LEO. He was suspended and then resigned. He made no attempt to do his job, that is, engage the shooter and save lives.
She might consider living with male relatives if that is a concern. There are also knives, machetes, and swords. Here in Canada you aren’t allowed to own a gun for purposes of self-defence, only for hunting or target practice, and it has to be stored unloaded in a locked case with a trigger lock so it won’t be any use anyway. Few people legally own guns around here, I wouldn’t be surprised if (at least in Ottawa) the majority of guns are illegal. Anyway, that doesn’t stop women from living alone and unarmed.
That’s some good thinking there, ignore what is going on in the rest of the world and stay in your little bubble.
I looked that up, you were right. I still don’t see guns as an improvement though, outside of the US and a few other place it’s still the same situation with gun ownership being restricted. In Canada we couldn’t have a revolution if we tried.
Where did you read the word ignore in my post? I can’t solve the issues in another country and I don’t expect someone there to solve ours.
I don’t think we would have democracy, or anything close to it without firearms. A peasant, given an arquebus or later a flintlock and a few weeks of training could kill a knight on horseback wearing armor that cost a small fortune and with a lifetime of training. Meditate on that for a while.
I think it’s bizarre that you aren’t allowed to use firearms to defend yourself in Canada. Really, if someone is breaking into your home your life, and the lives of your children are in danger and you should be able to use any means necessary to defend yourself. Firearms, machetes, flamethrowers, whatever. For any particular tool to be off limits is just strange.
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I guess I don’t understand how we can expect an 18 yr old to have the mental capacity to vote or undergo an abortion, but they are not adult enough to exercise a right actually mentioned in the Constitution.
Very true. I guess that is what I fear most on a national level. Emotions are at a peak just after a crisis has occurred. It’s a terrible time to rush legislation because we “need to do something.” It’s worth it to take our time and think things out. We have probably had a more in depth discussion on this board than the NYS legislature had on the matter.
Due process? We don’t have that in NY. Just “common sense” gun laws. Don’t worry though, the judges don’t check the Governors power either.
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Here’s a question…
Most of these shooters has the same set of circumstances (well, very similar). Bullied, outcast, quiet, kept to themselves.
Why, when a person who is bullied kills themselves do we blame the bully? But when a person who is bullied kills others we blame guns?
And that peasant was still a peasant, cannon fodder even, while that knight was later an officer who still held a royal title.
Firearms were in use centuries before democracy existed in the US or Europe.
@Uncle_Gabby I still owe you a reply that’s as thoughtful as your post.
@everyone_else: Let’s try to keep the discussion centered around policy. Its easy to dive down different rabbit holes but I started this thread with a specific purpose and I’d appreciate it if we all try to stay on-topic.