Gun Love Thread

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

At any case, there will be civil suit and you may be fucked financially if you are defending yourself and it might be best to retreat anyway.

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I understand this is real world, and I live in a state that likes to put the criminal above the victim, however I have a 2 year old. There is no retreat. I can’t throw her from the window, and she can’t jump.
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I’m totally with you on defending your family.

I’m trying to say, some prosecuters may argue a difference between hearing some guy breaking into your home, ambushing him, and shooting him as he enters, versus grabbing your wife and firearm and retreating to your daughters room, calling 911, then shooting him if he enters.

We did another drill in a shoot house where you go through and engage targets. They were the shoot/no shoot targets, i.e. like a pregnant women holding a gun or they put a sticker over the gun and it looks like a mug. I went through, pied around a corner and saw a scruffy, criminal looking guy in a hoody. I shot him, but there was a sticker of a hand over his gun, i.e. I shot a guy who had has hands up in front of his chest, unarmed, in a surrender position. I shot him right through the hand.

An ambitious prosecutor may say I confronted him, he surrendered, then I executed him. The proof was in the wound.

At the end of the day, there is a lot more preparation that should go into owning a firearms for self defense than just buying a gun and taking it to the range every once awhile.

[quote]theuofh wrote:

I’m trying to say, some prosecuters may argue a difference between hearing some guy breaking into your home, ambushing him, and shooting him as he enters, versus grabbing your wife and firearm and retreating to your daughters room, calling 911, then shooting him if he enters.

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I certainly hear what you are saying, and worry about it for sure.

But let’s face it, I’m an accountant not Rambo. I’m not ambushing anyone, lol. I’m standing at the top of my stairs, and if they never come up the stairs, they live. The step on those steps, and I’m not thinking twice about it.

The good news is, statistically I’ll never have to be in the position, and would likely sleep through it anyway.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
The good news is, statistically I’ll never have to be in the position, and would likely sleep through it anyway. [/quote]

LOL, I really hope none of us have to. You could always buy a dog, hopefully he’ll wake you up.

[quote]pete26 wrote:
My wish List
-Winchester Model 70 in either 7mm-08 or 25-06 (will have withing 6 months)
-An AR or some sort, really liking the looks of the Remington R-15 Byron South edition though

Currently Own-
Marlin 336- in 30-30(used to kill y first deer)
a couple .22’s
Single Shot 20 guage
Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader

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I have a Marlin 30-30 that I also took my first deer with. I don’t know if your’s is an older model but mine you have to load by opening the action, drop one in, grab the hammer, pull the trigger (yes, pull the trigger) and slowly let the hammer forward to a half-cock safety. Then load the tube. Freaking dangerous! My boys can shoot it, but I will not let them load or unload it.

For those not familiar with 30-30 WIN, it got its name when Winchester developed it in the late 1800’s. A 30 cal. with 30 grains of powder. Simple enough.

That Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader, that’s an inline, not a flintlock right?

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Haven’t heard a “vagina as a holster” story for awhile. I reckon there’s some pun fodder in here somehow.

Cormac McCarthy’s ex-wife arrested for using vagina as holster, pulling gun on boyfriend

Read more: UPDATED: Jennifer McCarthy cleared of bizarre gun charges | The Daily Caller
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The late Sam Kinison said, “They should have a trigger on it because we do what they say” I thought he was kidding!

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

At any case, there will be civil suit and you may be fucked financially if you are defending yourself and it might be best to retreat anyway.

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I understand this is real world, and I live in a state that likes to put the criminal above the victim, however I have a 2 year old. There is no retreat. I can’t throw her from the window, and she can’t jump.
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I’m totally with you on defending your family.

I’m trying to say, some prosecuters may argue a difference between hearing some guy breaking into your home, ambushing him, and shooting him as he enters, versus grabbing your wife and firearm and retreating to your daughters room, calling 911, then shooting him if he enters.

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Regardless of the legal issue, a strong argument could be made that for most people in most situations the latter option is more tactically sound and the most likely way to keep your family safe, which is of course the goal.

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]pete26 wrote:
My wish List
-Winchester Model 70 in either 7mm-08 or 25-06 (will have withing 6 months)
-An AR or some sort, really liking the looks of the Remington R-15 Byron South edition though

Currently Own-
Marlin 336- in 30-30(used to kill y first deer)
a couple .22’s
Single Shot 20 guage
Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader

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I have a Remington 700 in 7mm that I replaced the stock bolt with a titanium one. Shoots like a dream.

A good friend uses a winchester 7mm-08. He has a hard time finding ammo at times though, since it is more rare.[/quote]

Sounds like a sweet rig, and I’m seriously considering getting a single stage reloading press along with my new gun which should make that less of a problem.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pete26 wrote:
My wish List
-Winchester Model 70 in either 7mm-08 or 25-06 (will have withing 6 months)
-An AR or some sort, really liking the looks of the Remington R-15 Byron South edition though

Currently Own-
Marlin 336- in 30-30(used to kill y first deer)
a couple .22’s
Single Shot 20 guage
Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader

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I have a Marlin 30-30 that I also took my first deer with. I don’t know if your’s is an older model but mine you have to load by opening the action, drop one in, grab the hammer, pull the trigger (yes, pull the trigger) and slowly let the hammer forward to a half-cock safety. Then load the tube. Freaking dangerous! My boys can shoot it, but I will not let them load or unload it.

For those not familiar with 30-30 WIN, it got its name when Winchester developed it in the late 1800’s. A 30 cal. with 30 grains of powder. Simple enough.

That Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader, that’s an inline, not a flintlock right?
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My 30-30 is a newer model, so it has a regular loading port on the side. The Remington is an inline, the model is a Remington genesis
, they were only produced from 2006-2008 so I got mine for like 250$ new, I guess they weren’t very popular but I have no problems with mine.

[quote]pete26 wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pete26 wrote:
My wish List
-Winchester Model 70 in either 7mm-08 or 25-06 (will have withing 6 months)
-An AR or some sort, really liking the looks of the Remington R-15 Byron South edition though

Currently Own-
Marlin 336- in 30-30(used to kill y first deer)
a couple .22’s
Single Shot 20 guage
Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader

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I have a Marlin 30-30 that I also took my first deer with. I don’t know if your’s is an older model but mine you have to load by opening the action, drop one in, grab the hammer, pull the trigger (yes, pull the trigger) and slowly let the hammer forward to a half-cock safety. Then load the tube. Freaking dangerous! My boys can shoot it, but I will not let them load or unload it.

For those not familiar with 30-30 WIN, it got its name when Winchester developed it in the late 1800’s. A 30 cal. with 30 grains of powder. Simple enough.

That Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader, that’s an inline, not a flintlock right?
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My 30-30 is a newer model, so it has a regular loading port on the side. The Remington is an inline, the model is a Remington genesis
, they were only produced from 2006-2008 so I got mine for like 250$ new, I guess they weren’t very popular but I have no problems with mine.[/quote]

I don’t know your state but in PA we have a Muzzleloading season during archery for about a week. I hate those dudes messing up my bow season, plus I have to wear orange while moving, thanks! But a flintlock season that runs now. Get one and shoot it. They are silly with all the loading and muzzle flash, not to mention the big sulfur smelling cloud. Did I add that you have to clean them before putting them away, and that stinks the house up.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pete26 wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pete26 wrote:
My wish List
-Winchester Model 70 in either 7mm-08 or 25-06 (will have withing 6 months)
-An AR or some sort, really liking the looks of the Remington R-15 Byron South edition though

Currently Own-
Marlin 336- in 30-30(used to kill y first deer)
a couple .22’s
Single Shot 20 guage
Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader

[/quote]

I have a Marlin 30-30 that I also took my first deer with. I don’t know if your’s is an older model but mine you have to load by opening the action, drop one in, grab the hammer, pull the trigger (yes, pull the trigger) and slowly let the hammer forward to a half-cock safety. Then load the tube. Freaking dangerous! My boys can shoot it, but I will not let them load or unload it.

For those not familiar with 30-30 WIN, it got its name when Winchester developed it in the late 1800’s. A 30 cal. with 30 grains of powder. Simple enough.

That Remington- .50 cal muzzle loader, that’s an inline, not a flintlock right?
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My 30-30 is a newer model, so it has a regular loading port on the side. The Remington is an inline, the model is a Remington genesis
, they were only produced from 2006-2008 so I got mine for like 250$ new, I guess they weren’t very popular but I have no problems with mine.[/quote]

I don’t know your state but in PA we have a Muzzleloading season during archery for about a week. I hate those dudes messing up my bow season, plus I have to wear orange while moving, thanks! But a flintlock season that runs now. Get one and shoot it. They are silly with all the loading and muzzle flash, not to mention the big sulfur smelling cloud. Did I add that you have to clean them before putting them away, and that stinks the house up.
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From NY, in California with the Navy right now but where I hunt in NY it’s bow only for the second half or October/ first half of November them rifle for 2 weeks then 2 weeks of bow/ muzzle loader to finish off the season. So I’m sure some late season bow hunters probably get irritated there also.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Haven’t heard a “vagina as a holster” story for awhile. I reckon there’s some pun fodder in here somehow.

Cormac McCarthy’s ex-wife arrested for using vagina as holster, pulling gun on boyfriend

Read more: UPDATED: Jennifer McCarthy cleared of bizarre gun charges | The Daily Caller
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The late Sam Kinison said, “They should have a trigger on it because we do what they say” I thought he was kidding![/quote]

Nope, that was no joke. Pussy is a deadly weapon.

Okay, so new question. Of the guns you actually own which one is your favorite? If you had to keep only one, which one would it be?

Mine is the Ruger SR1911 CMD. I know the 1911 has become almost a cliche, but there is a reason why those guns are so popular and I LOVE my Ruger. Sure there may be better 1911’s but I shoot ridiculously well with that gun, it’s ridiculously fun as is, stock, out of the box.
I know there are a lot of mods to make it “better” but honestly, I wouldn’t change a damn thing.
I have a SP101 357 Magnum that I thought would always be my favorite and I do love it. But that 1911 is special, special enough to beat a good quality revolver, and that is tough to do.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]kineticj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]kineticj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Shit, the gun may be legal, but if your mag holds more than 10 rounds, and has a date stamp that is post ban (or the gun wasn’t manufactured post ban) you are going to prison.

Hitler could break into your house, amped up on dust, take 10 rounds from your 9mm, rape and murder your wife and kids, and there is jack and shit this state will do to help you, other than say “he had a rough childhood, we should try and understand why he wanted to harm your family like that.”

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Certainly with enough money, love, understanding and professional help Hitler could be rehabilitated into an upstanding member of society?[/quote]

According to MA, probably.

One thing they won’t do however, which blows my fucking mind, is pay for a prisoner’s sex change.

You’re telling me that judge wouldn’t put me in prison for firing the 11th round that saved my wife or daughter? He sure as shit would. [/quote]

He would realdamnquick.[/quote]

Agree, but better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.[/quote]

I am not sure that’s true any more.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Hey I have one of those! I love it. It’s accurate as hell. The recoil is nothing in that gun. Most of the time, I carry the SR9c or the SP101. Depends on my mood.
Right now I have it loaded with some Buffalo Bore +P+ 115 grain rounds. It’s handles them just fine.[/quote]

Ow I’m sure the gun is accurate, for me it’s the guy holding it that is a little off. Hornady Critical Defense 115gr. is what I have in it to carry burned a box to see how it shot and was good to go. I only put 200 round down range with the gun but never had an issue thus far. When the weather gets better, I’ll blow off a lot more.[/quote]

Hey we all have to work on that. You can never be accurate enough. But that’s the fun part, getting better.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
From the author of Montana’s Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground law:

“Montana Code now clearly states citizens have a fundamental right of self-defense in any place they can lawfully be. Be it your home, the city streets or a quarter-section of sagebrush, you have no obligation to retreat first or dial 9-1-1 prior to asserting your natural right of self-preservation.”[/quote]

Same here, that’s why our licenses are reciprocal.

[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

Cant say that im a huge fan of the .380 but, some people like it i guess.[/quote]

I really like .380’s. They are actually a lot of fun to shoot and I am a ‘big caliber’ kind of guy. The .380’s are actually my wife’s guns, but I love to shoot them and I don’t give a shit if the handle is pink. :wink: So she likes pink.

People criticize them as a defense round, but I beg to differ. I damn sure wouldn’t want to be hit with one.

[quote]pat wrote:
Okay, so new question. Of the guns you actually own which one is your favorite? If you had to keep only one, which one would it be?[/quote]

does not compute