Gun Control

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.

Milton Friedman[/quote]

This really is it. So many laws, so many unintended (or intended) consequences.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon a supposition that he may abuse it.

Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658), Address, First Protectorate Parliament, 1654[/quote]

That’s a great quote.

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest”

Mahatma Gandhi, “Gandhi, An Autobiography”. M. K. Gandhi,* page 372

  • Note, I am not a Gandhi fan. Well, I like the fictional Gandhi of the Western media. The actual, Nazi-allied, Jew-hating racist, Gandhi who lived in the real world and supported the Shoa, however, was a complete asshat. I’m just using his quote because the fictional Gandhi construct is so beloved by lefties.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest”

Mahatma Gandhi, “Gandhi, An Autobiography”. M. K. Gandhi,* page 372

  • Note, I am not a Gandhi fan. Well, I like the fictional Gandhi of the Western media. The actual, Nazi-allied, Jew-hating racist, Gandhi who lived in the real world and supported the Shoa, however, was a complete asshat. I’m just using his quote because the fictional Gandhi construct is so beloved by lefties.[/quote]

A quote that is taken out of context. When taken in context it actually supports the “fictional” Gandhi.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest”

Mahatma Gandhi, “Gandhi, An Autobiography”. M. K. Gandhi,* page 372

  • Note, I am not a Gandhi fan. Well, I like the fictional Gandhi of the Western media. The actual, Nazi-allied, Jew-hating racist, Gandhi who lived in the real world and supported the Shoa, however, was a complete asshat. I’m just using his quote because the fictional Gandhi construct is so beloved by lefties.[/quote]

A quote that is taken out of context. When taken in context it actually supports the “fictional” Gandhi. [/quote]
I’ve been wracking my brain trying to find this quote for exactly the same reason Jewbacca used it.

Read his post again. It says the same thing you said. Liberals love the fauxgandhian character because it seems to support their agenda. Unless you consider quotes like this one.

I’m going to leave you with a couple more links, and then I won’t be posting much more, if at all.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/breaking-illinois-bill-to-ban-all-modern-firearms/

IL to ban - AND CONFISCATE - all semiautomatic firearms. Handguns, shotguns, rifles.

?Based on what we know about Cullerton?s bill, firearms that would be banned include all semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Pump action shotguns would be banned as well. This would be a very comprehensive ban that would include not only so-called ?assault weapons? but also such classics as M1 Garands and 1911-based pistols. There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering. You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State Police to avoid prosecution.?

The bill just made it out of committee by a vote of 6 - 3.

John Cullerton, the President of the IL Senate, is trying to get this passed in to law by Friday.

I hate this state sometimes.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/02/us-usa-guns-newspaper-idUSBRE9010R820130102

Came across this on another website I frequent

[quote]JayPierce wrote:
I’m going to leave you with a couple more links, and then I won’t be posting much more, if at all.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/breaking-illinois-bill-to-ban-all-modern-firearms/[/quote]

This doesn’t actually surprise you does it?

No…it doesn’t…right?

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Came across this on another website I frequent

[quote]
The following letter, written by U.S. Marine Joshua Boston and headlined ?No ma?am.,? was posted in the CNN iReport on Dec. 27 with the included note from the producer and photo. It has struck a nerve with many and is being circulated around social media venues like Twitter and Facebook.

Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government?s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma?am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

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But if they want he will be dragged from his house, possibly by his hair, and disarmed.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

But if they want he will be dragged from his house, possibly by his hair, and disarmed.
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I would not actually mind overt brutality because the public would have no doubt we were living in a dictatorship.

It is at least honest, and therefore less evil.
But evil masquerading as good…that adds insult to injury.

What would probably happen in dictatorship masquerading as a democratic government is they would frame the marine, make him appear a threat to liberal society and accomplish the mission of reinforcing to the people that government is a good thing and they need their government to be heavy handed to protect them from the evils that rise up against liberal values.

As liberal values rise above other values, they are backed up by legality instead of the “old fashioned” morality, which will become obsolete ( already is in many ways ).

Once liberal values are validated and protected by legality, everything that does not suit the liberal agenda will be considered “an evil to society” or illegal.

By becoming amoral first, they can carry out deeds that violate others that do not share their values in the name of Good ( “for society” ) without any guilt.

Using liberty to violate others in the name of Goodness for society.