I think they seriously underestimate a majority of Americans.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
I’m hearing “Preaching, Hyperbole and Platitudes”.
But I’m still listening…(and hopefully will learn something along the way?)
Mufasa[/quote]
Government never stops.
They never stop taking, never stop consuming, and never stop with their greed.
The very large majority of them, are fucking scum bag punks who think of “we the people” to feed them and their interests.
This is a slow bloodletting that we are seeing, little by little, piece by piece, the people are being lulled out of their rights, and being herded into government control. [/quote]
I agree with this completely.
The salami technique.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
AlphaF:
We have a Second Amendment Right to bear arms…and I respect that Right 100%.
That is not “sitting on the Fence”.
What I DON’T understand is how a Populace that probably packs more Heat than just about anyone in the World somehow thinks that Right has/is?/has been? taken away?
I’m just not getting it.
Mufasa
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If you’ve lived in Chicago or D.C. or NYC (and many other places) it certainly has been taken away. Do you believe Chicagoans, New Yorkers and D.C. residents deserve that? If so, why?
If you didn’t know that shame on you for your ignorance.
I have a friend from this forum and IRL who is wants to become a legal gun owner right now in California. I’m not saying he necessarily is trying to purchase a gun at a store (or anywhere else) right away, just obtain the legal right which he is already allowed by the 2nd Amendment to “keep and bear.” He doesn’t inherently have it in California per the California code.
He has to get a background check even before he gets the permit to buy. Or own. Or possess.
Now you used the word “impingement.” The Free Dictionary says impingement means, “To encroach; trespass.” Do you think that when an ordinary citizen must ask the State of California for permission before he is even allowed to possess (not even talking “buying”) an “arm” that “impingement” is part of the picture?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can write a letter to a newspaper editor?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can attend the church of your choice?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can refuse the quartering of troops in your home?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you demand a jury trial?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you refuse a warrantless search?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission to refuse to testify against yourself?
Muf, do you have to get a permit in order not to have excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment visited upon you?
Muf, do you need a background check, a waiting period and a permit before you can start a newspaper? Or an online blog?[/quote]
Gladly, Push!
The answer to all of the above is “No”…
And you don’t really have to really ask the State to purchase any weapon you desire…
Mufasa
And I also think that “Let’s-Make-People-Feel-Good” Buy Backs is the DUMBEST idea that anyone ever came up with…!
Mufasa
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The salami technique.[/quote]
Wassat? Just the tip, just for a second, I swear?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
AlphaF:
We have a Second Amendment Right to bear arms…and I respect that Right 100%.
That is not “sitting on the Fence”.
What I DON’T understand is how a Populace that probably packs more Heat than just about anyone in the World somehow thinks that Right has/is?/has been? taken away?
I’m just not getting it.
Mufasa
[/quote]
If you’ve lived in Chicago or D.C. or NYC (and many other places) it certainly has been taken away. Do you believe Chicagoans, New Yorkers and D.C. residents deserve that? If so, why?
If you didn’t know that shame on you for your ignorance.
I have a friend from this forum and IRL who is wants to become a legal gun owner right now in California. I’m not saying he necessarily is trying to purchase a gun at a store (or anywhere else) right away, just obtain the legal right which he is already allowed by the 2nd Amendment to “keep and bear.” He doesn’t inherently have it in California per the California code.
He has to get a background check even before he gets the permit to buy. Or own. Or possess.
Now you used the word “impingement.” The Free Dictionary says impingement means, “To encroach; trespass.” Do you think that when an ordinary citizen must ask the State of California for permission before he is even allowed to possess (not even talking “buying”) an “arm” that “impingement” is part of the picture?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can write a letter to a newspaper editor?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can attend the church of your choice?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you can refuse the quartering of troops in your home?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you demand a jury trial?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission before you refuse a warrantless search?
Muf, do you have to ask your state’s permission to refuse to testify against yourself?
Muf, do you have to get a permit in order not to have excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment visited upon you?
Muf, do you need a background check, a waiting period and a permit before you can start a newspaper? Or an online blog?[/quote]
Gladly, Push!
The answer to all of the above is “No”…
And you don’t really have to really ask the State to purchase any weapon you desire…
(…and I would go so far as to bet that you DON’T ask…)
Mufasa
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The salami technique.[/quote]
Wassat? Just the tip, just for a second, I swear?[/quote]
http://www.infowars.com/facebook-purges-pro-gun-accounts/
The list of disabled/deleted accounts has grown since this article dropped, but I’m not posting the new list. I’m not sure those guys want their business aired.
Only one murder in 27 years is pretty decent, right? I’m thinking maybe Family Circle magazine didn’t know that gun ownership was mandatory when they named them one of the top 10 cities for families?
Los Angeles had a buyback program, 2000 guns taken, in a city with a population of 5 million, well done, I wonder how many cartel members and gang-bangers surrendered their guns.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
I’m not sure that most of you appreciate the gravity of the situation. Don’t confuse warning with whining.
Want to read some truly disturbing stuff? Want to know what the ruling class is really up to?
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7305
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7310
Now, I realize that this could be complete BS, but compare it to recent events and tell me it doesn’t add up the way RB says[/quote]
In one of these links he mentions the government will say we can’t hunt anymore because they own the animals.
I actually see this playing out but very stealthily and under the banner of “protected animals” and “protected areas”.
The Florida Wildlife Patrol is already a “police force” and law enforcement agency.
So I do see how our world is already changing in the name of " environmental protection" or “environmentally sensitive” areas.
It can very well start with a genuine cause but it does present a formidable window for abuse of power.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste.” is precisely that: power grabs and justified consolidation of subordination.
Cuomo suggests that confiscating guns could be an option…
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Only one murder in 27 years is pretty decent, right? I’m thinking maybe Family Circle magazine didn’t know that gun ownership was mandatory when they named them one of the top 10 cities for families?
Excellent find Jay. The media continues to spin the senseless tragedy against gun owners while the maniac who killed those children was not a gun owner but someone who stole a gun.
And as the article states one of the safest cities to live in has a mandatory gun law. Everyone must own a gun and have ammunition for it as well!
Where’s the big media story on that city?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
And you don’t really have to really ask the State to purchase any weapon you desire…
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When I’m done my weekend course, filled out all my paper work, waited my waiting period, and then, if I’m lucky, get approval from my local authority, I can walk in and buy a State authorized weapon of my choice…
Nope, I don’t have to ask at all. I have to beg
I urge you all; show vocal support for this man and all Patriots who refuse to disarm. Take this pledge to heart and make up your mind whether you will stand with or against, should the need ever arise. It is probably the most important decision you will make in your lifetime.
[quote]OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY
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We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
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We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
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We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as ?unlawful enemy combatants? or to subject them to military tribunal.
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We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a ?state of emergency? on a state.
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We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
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We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
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We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
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We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to ?keep the peace? or to ?maintain control."
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We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.[/quote]
Also especially helpful, if you are considering supporting or joining, go to the ‘about’ page and read “what we are not”
I know everyone is emotional over the Connecticut shooting, but do people realize that 8000 murders happen per year by guns ?
There are 315 Million people in the country, this is a very small number. There are more than 4 times as many killed with cars.