Growth Hormone Fasting Experiment

Hello all,

I figured I would post this here. I have decided to go an a 3-7 day water fast. The length will be determined on how well the water fast is going. I have water fasted for 36 hours before with no problems.

It has been pretty well established that fasting increases growth hormone and insulin sensitivity. I have decided to take a serving of Alpha-GPC a half hour before bed each night during the fast. Alpha-GPC is known to improve growth hormone receptor sensitivity.

I will post the results and how things are going on this forum.

You will surely die.

I’ll expect no updates after day 2.

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
You will surely die.

I’ll expect no updates after day 2.[/quote]

Retard he will not die. You can fast for much longer and be fine

3-7 days, seriously. That seems very excessive for a fasting bodybuilder.

[quote]big balls wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
You will surely die.

I’ll expect no updates after day 2.[/quote]

Retard he will not die. You can fast for much longer and be fine[/quote]

Did the nettle root/pork scratchings guy just call me a retard?

I feel honored.

[quote]cally wrote:
3-7 days, seriously. That seems very excessive for a fasting bodybuilder.[/quote]

I don’t consider myself a bodybuilder. I am doing this for health and out of curiosity. Any weight that I lose will be quickly gained back when I start eating normally again.

One thing that I will be curious about is how well my body absorbs food when I resume eating normally again. The less you eat, the more efficient your body becomes at absorbing nutrients. Your digestion becomes stronger, which is always a good thing. Also I will be interested in how the Alpha-GPC affects the fast.

[quote]big balls wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
You will surely die.

I’ll expect no updates after day 2.[/quote]

Retard he will not die. You can fast for much longer and be fine[/quote]

I don’t know why anybody would want to intentionally fast.

After I experienced Ramadan (which is a full fast from about 4am to about 6pm, doing this every day for a month), I decided anybody who thinks fasting is a good idea, is a fool.

Health benefits, my ass. My metabolism is too fast for that shit and my body is all too good at resorting to consuming itself. Feeling like fainting or sleeping all the time can not be healthy.

Fasting will never see my face again.

and just a note: the ‘high’ / ‘happy’ feeling is your brain starving. have fun:)

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
I don’t know why anybody would want to intentionally fast.

After I experienced Ramadan (which is a full fast from about 4am to about 6pm), I decided anybody who thinks fasting is a good idea, is a fool.

Health benefits, my ass. My metabolism is too fast for that shit and my body is all too good at resorting to consuming itself. Feeling like fainting or sleeping all the time can not be healthy.

Fasting will never see my face again.

and just a note: the ‘high’ / ‘happy’ feeling is your brain starving. have fun:)[/quote]

To each his own. I used to feel the same way you did. When I was in the military there were a few times when I went without food for a couple of days. It was horrible, but that was because we were constantly moving and weren’t allowed to eat. It is much different when you make the decision to with hold food from yourself.

I also used to make sure that I ate a huge protein meal every 2-3 hours and ate big. Was I big? Yeah. Was I strong? yeah. Was I bloated, out of shape and unhealthy? Yep.

I became obsessive about eating all the time. My digestion suffered and as a result so too did my overall health.

Interestingly it wasn’t until I read a book by Ori Hofmekler called the “warrior diet” that I began to put things together. The body functions somewhat as an “on” and “off” switch. The more food you put into it (relatively speaking) the less efficient it becomes at utilizing it. Much the same way that bodybuilders are able to pack on incredible amounts of muscle after their contest. The further into a catabolic state you put the body, the greater the anabolic rebound will be.

I’ve seen guys go into Ranger school at 180lbs, come out at 135lbs, and within a month be at 190bs and noticably more muscular than when they went in.

The body needs a break from the constant eating, training, and compulsive idea of getting bigger and stronger. At least, that is just how I feel.

Why don’t you do the MAG-10 fast. This looks like bad news bears

This really isn’t a growth hormone experiment. I mean you’re not testing your growth hormone levels it would appear and you’re not taking injectible GH. Misleading title ftl.

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
I don’t know why anybody would want to intentionally fast.

After I experienced Ramadan (which is a full fast from about 4am to about 6pm), I decided anybody who thinks fasting is a good idea, is a fool.

Health benefits, my ass. My metabolism is too fast for that shit and my body is all too good at resorting to consuming itself. Feeling like fainting or sleeping all the time can not be healthy.

Fasting will never see my face again.

and just a note: the ‘high’ / ‘happy’ feeling is your brain starving. have fun:)[/quote]

x2
If you have a fast metabolism/low BF you’re just going to send yourself backwards and possibly slow your metabolism due to loss of lean mass. I tried a fast and lost 2kg of pure muscle, I didn’t “rebound” either and had to work/eat hard for a couple of weeks to get it back. A horrible overall experience of having no energy to concentrate, let alone train hard.
Good luck with it!

Completely uncontrolled experiments that tell us nothing and that work on faulty assumptions ftw!

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
]To each his own. I used to feel the same way you did. When I was in the military there were a few times when I went without food for a couple of days. It was horrible, but that was because we were constantly moving and weren’t allowed to eat. It is much different when you make the decision to with hold food from yourself.

I also used to make sure that I ate a huge protein meal every 2-3 hours and ate big. Was I big? Yeah. Was I strong? yeah. Was I bloated, out of shape and unhealthy? Yep.

I became obsessive about eating all the time. My digestion suffered and as a result so too did my overall health.

Interestingly it wasn’t until I read a book by Ori Hofmekler called the “warrior diet” that I began to put things together. The body functions somewhat as an “on” and “off” switch. The more food you put into it (relatively speaking) the less efficient it becomes at utilizing it. Much the same way that bodybuilders are able to pack on incredible amounts of muscle after their contest. The further into a catabolic state you put the body, the greater the anabolic rebound will be.

I’ve seen guys go into Ranger school at 180lbs, come out at 135lbs, and within a month be at 190bs and noticably more muscular than when they went in.

The body needs a break from the constant eating, training, and compulsive idea of getting bigger and stronger. At least, that is just how I feel.[/quote]

Sounds like you went to one extreme with your diet, and now you’re going to the other extreme. The body doesn’t function like an on/off switch. This is really stupid. The body certainly operates in cycles though, so things like deloading weeks are a good idea. Additionally, changing your diet around for a week is also often a good idea. Do you have to fast to do that? NO. (Same reason I think the pulse-fast is a little dumb)

Look, when you fast, your body is going to be releasing a ton of hormones designed to help you survive because you are STARVING. This includes growth hormone and increases in insulin sensitivity along with fat mobilization hormones and cortisol. There’s nothing magical or mystical about it. It’s just a physiological response to a stressor and certainly can’t be considered a “healthy” thing to do.

[quote]Fezzik wrote:

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
]To each his own. I used to feel the same way you did. When I was in the military there were a few times when I went without food for a couple of days. It was horrible, but that was because we were constantly moving and weren’t allowed to eat. It is much different when you make the decision to with hold food from yourself.

I also used to make sure that I ate a huge protein meal every 2-3 hours and ate big. Was I big? Yeah. Was I strong? yeah. Was I bloated, out of shape and unhealthy? Yep.

I became obsessive about eating all the time. My digestion suffered and as a result so too did my overall health.

Interestingly it wasn’t until I read a book by Ori Hofmekler called the “warrior diet” that I began to put things together. The body functions somewhat as an “on” and “off” switch. The more food you put into it (relatively speaking) the less efficient it becomes at utilizing it. Much the same way that bodybuilders are able to pack on incredible amounts of muscle after their contest. The further into a catabolic state you put the body, the greater the anabolic rebound will be.

I’ve seen guys go into Ranger school at 180lbs, come out at 135lbs, and within a month be at 190bs and noticably more muscular than when they went in.

The body needs a break from the constant eating, training, and compulsive idea of getting bigger and stronger. At least, that is just how I feel.[/quote]

Sounds like you went to one extreme with your diet, and now you’re going to the other extreme. The body doesn’t function like an on/off switch. This is really stupid. The body certainly operates in cycles though, so things like deloading weeks are a good idea. Additionally, changing your diet around for a week is also often a good idea. Do you have to fast to do that? NO. (Same reason I think the pulse-fast is a little dumb)

Look, when you fast, your body is going to be releasing a ton of hormones designed to help you survive because you are STARVING. This includes growth hormone and increases in insulin sensitivity along with fat mobilization hormones and cortisol. There’s nothing magical or mystical about it. It’s just a physiological response to a stressor and certainly can’t be considered a “healthy” thing to do.[/quote]

It is what it is. But I am nearly as strong as I was when I weighed 40lbs more. I have been following an intermittant fasting / warrior diet schedule now for 9 months and I am more vascular, dense, and cut then I have ever been. Plus I am not a slave to preparing food throughout the day and worrying about eating.

I still take in a good amount of calories but only at night time, roughly around the hours of 5pm - 10pm. I workout, go home and then slam down massive amounts of calories. It works for me, that’s all I can say, and the digestive problems are a thing of the past. Plus I don’t spend nearly as much as used to on supplements, I only use the staples now…a greens supplement, fish oil, udo’s oil, probiotic and a multi.

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:

[quote]Fezzik wrote:

[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
]To each his own. I used to feel the same way you did. When I was in the military there were a few times when I went without food for a couple of days. It was horrible, but that was because we were constantly moving and weren’t allowed to eat. It is much different when you make the decision to with hold food from yourself.

I also used to make sure that I ate a huge protein meal every 2-3 hours and ate big. Was I big? Yeah. Was I strong? yeah. Was I bloated, out of shape and unhealthy? Yep.

I became obsessive about eating all the time. My digestion suffered and as a result so too did my overall health.

Interestingly it wasn’t until I read a book by Ori Hofmekler called the “warrior diet” that I began to put things together. The body functions somewhat as an “on” and “off” switch. The more food you put into it (relatively speaking) the less efficient it becomes at utilizing it. Much the same way that bodybuilders are able to pack on incredible amounts of muscle after their contest. The further into a catabolic state you put the body, the greater the anabolic rebound will be.

I’ve seen guys go into Ranger school at 180lbs, come out at 135lbs, and within a month be at 190bs and noticably more muscular than when they went in.

The body needs a break from the constant eating, training, and compulsive idea of getting bigger and stronger. At least, that is just how I feel.[/quote]

Sounds like you went to one extreme with your diet, and now you’re going to the other extreme. The body doesn’t function like an on/off switch. This is really stupid. The body certainly operates in cycles though, so things like deloading weeks are a good idea. Additionally, changing your diet around for a week is also often a good idea. Do you have to fast to do that? NO. (Same reason I think the pulse-fast is a little dumb)

Look, when you fast, your body is going to be releasing a ton of hormones designed to help you survive because you are STARVING. This includes growth hormone and increases in insulin sensitivity along with fat mobilization hormones and cortisol. There’s nothing magical or mystical about it. It’s just a physiological response to a stressor and certainly can’t be considered a “healthy” thing to do.[/quote]

It is what it is. But I am nearly as strong as I was when I weighed 40lbs more. I have been following an intermittant fasting / warrior diet schedule now for 9 months and I am more vascular, dense, and cut then I have ever been. Plus I am not a slave to preparing food throughout the day and worrying about eating.

I still take in a good amount of calories but only at night time, roughly around the hours of 5pm - 10pm. I workout, go home and then slam down massive amounts of calories. It works for me, that’s all I can say, and the digestive problems are a thing of the past. Plus I don’t spend nearly as much as used to on supplements, I only use the staples now…a greens supplement, fish oil, udo’s oil, probiotic and a multi.[/quote]

If you’ve read my posts, you’ll know I like IF. However, I think going a week without food is stupid and is taking the IF thing too far. fasting IS good for you, but there’s a point of diminishing returns where more isn’t better. Fasting 16-20 hours a day is fine, but more is not better. The only people I would ever recommend to fast an entire week is obese people because they have large amounts of stored energy and it would be good for their bodies to kick start fat loss.

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]big balls wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
You will surely die.

I’ll expect no updates after day 2.[/quote]

Retard he will not die. You can fast for much longer and be fine[/quote]

Did the nettle root/pork scratchings guy just call me a retard?

I feel honored.[/quote]

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^ Awesome

Seems that OP has died.

Move along, people. Nothing to see here.

[quote]TwinIron wrote:
Seems that OP has died.

Move along, people. Nothing to see here.[/quote]

Is it bad if I lol’d?