[quote]dianab wrote:
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Yes. This!!!
And the comparison continues in that it’s not just about having one, but knowing how to use it correctly to make people feel good. If you use yours to club people over the head, embarrass them or make them feel bad, or (even worse) to promote violence, you’re doing it wrong. Same with if you’re always trying to prove how yours is better - that just shows insecurity.
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
I would ask for a source, usually…however, I have high suspicion that your source is either non-credible or there is no source at all.
After all, if more atheist were being indoctrinated wouldn’t the increases in members in the Catholic and Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca) religions be slowing, instead of picking up speed?
If I had to guess, since I do not have a source, that other religions are still increasing themselves.
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
Strange take on things. Why the assumption that that most atheists 50 years ago were “at the higher levels of science?” My guess is that most of them 50 years ago may well have been Marxists. I honestly never quite understood the dichotomy between spirituality and science. I’ve always believed the two can coexist very well, especially when you don’t look at religious writings in the same light as scientific descriptions. Only the unsophisticated interpret all scripture literally. But using mythic/poetic language doesn’t make something untrue.
I don’t find either of the following two descriptions a lie. They are just different ways of expressing the same thing:
“From my current vantage point, I observed visible light from the Sun come up over the horizon due to the Earth’s rotation.”
“I watched a fragile young Dawn caress the dew-moistened Earth with her rosy fingers.”
Trying to convince people that the second version is just a lie and discouraging them from expressing things that way just makes us all poorer, IMO.
Reading Carl Jung opened my eyes about how myths - any myths - can be psychologically true. The story of Adam and Eve is a myth. I doubt that the first evolved humans were just one male/female pair who lived in a garden where they did no work at all. Instead, I read it as an allegory about the loss of childhood innocence and the transition to adulthood that brings independent self-reliance but comes at the expense of the carefree fun of childhood.
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
History fail.
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
You make the assumption that trends continue indefinitely. If I were to apply your forecasting model to say a puppy, then we would assume the puppy would grow indefinitely until one day in an uncontrollable fit of happiness a major metropolitan area was destroyed by a wagging tail.
Obviously, thanks to the National Guard, this doesn’t happen.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
You make the assumption that trends continue indefinitely. If I were to apply your forecasting model to say a puppy, then we would assume the puppy would grow indefinitely until one day in an uncontrollable fit of happiness a major metropolitan area was destroyed by a wagging tail.
Obviously, thanks to the National Guard, this doesn’t happen.[/quote]
What you’ve outlined is essentially the premise of Clifford the Big Red Dog! FTR, I’ve only seen that show because I have a daughter who used watch it. Likewise any number of popular kid shows from about 4-8 years ago. Jimmy Neutron… there was a good cartoon!
Maybe supa power could come up with a concept for a cartoon about atheists. The Little Doubters, maybe? Or how about The Amazing Adventures of Atheist Aaron and Agnostic Annie?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
There weren’t really any atheists to speak of back in the day (over a 1000 years ago) because most older civilizations’ leaders gained legitimacy through claiming some sort of divine or rightful connection to God/Allah/Buddha/Zeus/etc. To openly not believe in any deity would have been to reject the leader’s “right” to rule, as mandated from above, and the atheist would have been killed.
As we move along through history, it has certainly become less and less taboo to be an atheist, and so there are more people vocalizing their atheism than ever before. But belief in a religion/god will never go away within societies and civilizations. As many pockets of atheism there are in our country, or elsewhere, there are that many more pockets where non-belief is a virtual impossibility due to the level at which religion is ingrained into society.
I think the real demographic that is growing is agnosticism, not atheism. Agnosticism is simply a belief that there are many metaphysical questions that we will never answer. Agnostics may still believe in some sort of god or higher power, but they do not pretend to have any sort of grasp of the nature of said deity. Especially to the point that organized religions do. Agnosticism for many is simply a rejection of organized religion without rejecting spirituality or a belief in some “greater thing” out there.
I won’t be so foolish as to throw a bunch of random percentages out there, but I would suspect that participation in organized religion is down in this country, but I think it has more to do with a rise in agnosticism than in atheism.
[quote]overstand wrote:
The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist
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And childless. Atheism will hit a low ceiling. It’s kind of a Darwinian dead end…
[quote]overstand wrote:
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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Because the religious are more interested in starting families earlier, instead of spending years chasing degrees. If you enjoy correlation, take a look at the level of education vs size of family. Especially at the number of children.
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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“Smart” people tend to lack wisdom. “Smart” people tend to lack common sense. And, why would you suggest that science would draw people away from religion, when Muslims as well as Catholics invest large amounts of money into science? I think the atheist are scared that their numbers are going to start going down. So, now they’re throwing shit around. It’s funny how much an atheist needs others to join them when they proclaim individual reasoning, but claim at the same time religion uses “fear” to control people.
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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P.S. The Survey polled how many people are involved with formal religion. Not people that are atheists.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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“Smart” people tend to lack wisdom. “Smart” people tend to lack common sense. And, why would you suggest that science would draw people away from religion, when Muslims as well as Catholics invest large amounts of money into science? I think the atheist are scared that their numbers are going to start going down. So, now they’re throwing shit around. It’s funny how much an atheist needs others to join them when they proclaim individual reasoning, but claim at the same time religion uses “fear” to control people.[/quote]
Lol, Mr Ad Hominem Logic Man making retarded blanket statements. Smart people lack wisdom and common sense? Ok, show me the studies.
Science draws people away from religion because it debunks everything they hold sacred. We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans. We know the earth is billions of years old. The bible is supposed to be the word of God and now we know much of it to be false. Its easy to see why once people start doubting parts, they start doubting the whole.
The rest of your post is weak and I’m not even going to respond.
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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“Smart” people tend to lack wisdom. “Smart” people tend to lack common sense. And, why would you suggest that science would draw people away from religion, when Muslims as well as Catholics invest large amounts of money into science? I think the atheist are scared that their numbers are going to start going down. So, now they’re throwing shit around. It’s funny how much an atheist needs others to join them when they proclaim individual reasoning, but claim at the same time religion uses “fear” to control people.[/quote]
Lol, Mr Ad Hominem Logic Man making retarded blanket statements. Smart people lack wisdom and common sense? Ok, show me the studies.
Science draws people away from religion because it debunks everything they hold sacred. We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans. We know the earth is billions of years old. The bible is supposed to be the word of God and now we know much of it to be false. Its easy to see why once people start doubting parts, they start doubting the whole.
The rest of your post is weak and I’m not even going to respond.[/quote]
Why billions. Why not trillions, or only millions?
Other things evolution can’t answer:
Why atoms are structured like they are
Emotion
Morality
[quote]overstand wrote:
Science draws people away from religion because it debunks everything they hold sacred. We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans. We know the earth is billions of years old. The bible is supposed to be the word of God and now we know much of it to be false. Its easy to see why once people start doubting parts, they start doubting the whole.
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Everything you have said here, the Catholic Church is not against. Except for the part about science draws people away from religion. It was part of the reason I was drawn to the Catholic Church is because of their stance on science. I presume you value science as much as I do, so I suggest you read up on the stance of the Catholic Church when it comes to science. But, I digress.
To your statements about the reasons Christians leave the Church:
Adam and Eve have their feast day, but we hold that the literal meaning has to be taken from understanding the creation story as a metaphor. Otherwise, why would there be two creation stories in the beginning of Genesis?
The Catholic Church will not say evolution is wrong. A lot of intelligent Catholics hold evolution to be true, as I do myself.
I heard and read both Pope JPII and Benedict XVI both comment on the age of the earth, both said the earth was “billions of years old.”
No one has proven, without reproof and eventual failure, the Bible wrong.
Your statement is a blanket statement. I said many, not all. You said religion, in absolute terms, unless I am wrong in reading your implications of just saying “religion,” which you actually meant fundamentalist.
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The rest of your post is weak and I’m not even going to respond.[/quote]
Even though your post is weak, I still responded to it. Probably because I don’t like non-truths to go without correction.
Sarcasm escapes you, brother. I wasn’t making a blanketed statement, you did.
However, many is an abritrary word, I meant it in the facet of more than a few. Not all or most. Just many. Marx lacked common sense. Intelligent folks in eugenics lacked common sense. There is my proof. How many professors in college are drunks or get fired for saying something that hurt their careers, unwise decisions. They lack judgment, they may excel in judgment in certain areas of academics, that does not mean they have proper judgment for other ares of life.
[quote]overstand wrote:
We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans."[/quote]
Tell that to mitocondrial eve and y-chromosomal adam.
The Torah tells you that G-d created man. It doesn’t say (despite certain fundamental Prostestant beliefs) how He did it.
Think of a cake. The Torah is the study of the cook. Evolution (may or may not be, I don’t care) the recipe.
Yes, and again, in Genesis there is no statement that the periods referred to were 24 hours long, either. Again, don’t confuse the common interpretation for the correct one. Go learn Hebrew.
As an aisde, the first Chapter of the Torah also points out that Mondays suck, which, IMHO, is enternal proof that it is a valid text. (Not really, but Monday is the only day that G-d did not say was “good.” Ergo, it sucks.)
Actually, no. Your interpretation of the word of G-d is false.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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“Smart” people tend to lack wisdom. “Smart” people tend to lack common sense. And, why would you suggest that science would draw people away from religion, when Muslims as well as Catholics invest large amounts of money into science? I think the atheist are scared that their numbers are going to start going down. So, now they’re throwing shit around. It’s funny how much an atheist needs others to join them when they proclaim individual reasoning, but claim at the same time religion uses “fear” to control people.[/quote]
Lol, Mr Ad Hominem Logic Man making retarded blanket statements. Smart people lack wisdom and common sense? Ok, show me the studies.
Science draws people away from religion because it debunks everything they hold sacred. We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans. We know the earth is billions of years old. The bible is supposed to be the word of God and now we know much of it to be false. Its easy to see why once people start doubting parts, they start doubting the whole.
The rest of your post is weak and I’m not even going to respond.[/quote]
Why billions. Why not trillions, or only millions?
Other things evolution can’t answer:
Why atoms are structured like they are
Emotion
Morality
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I do think morality can be accounted for outside of religion, but I see your point.
Another thing that evolution doesn’t explain is why humans are so much smarter than we need to be. There’s no evolutionary advantage to being able to figure out the oribit of the moon, at least not directly.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans."[/quote]
Tell that to mitocondrial eve and y-chromosomal adam.
The Torah tells you that G-d created man. It doesn’t say (despite certain fundamental Prostestant beliefs) how He did it.
Think of a cake. The Torah is the study of the cook. Evolution (may or may not be, I don’t care) the recipe.
Yes, and again, in Genesis there is no statement that the periods referred to were 24 hours long, either. Again, don’t confuse the common interpretation for the correct one. Go learn Hebrew.
As an aisde, the first Chapter of the Torah also points out that Mondays suck, which, IMHO, is enternal proof that it is a valid text. (Not really, but Monday is the only day that G-d did not say was “good.” Ergo, it sucks.)
Actually, no. Your interpretation of the word of G-d is false.[/quote]
x over 9000
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]supa power wrote:
Why fight atheism? It’s inevitable that everyone will be an atheist in a couple hundred years.
How many atheists were there 200 years ago?? a handfull? How many were there 50 years ago? Maybe just those at the higher levels of science, and now how many are there? As high as 80% of some countries are atheists. Some countries in the middle east will no doubt take longer to come out of fantasy land, but it WILL happen…eventually.[/quote]
…except Catholicism, Ultra-Orthodox (Jewbacca), and most religions are increasing in members…interesting…atheist increasing? I think not.[/quote]
Here’s a gallup poll from May 2010 that says otherwise, using percentages. The percentage of people in the US with no religious identity has more than tripled since the 50s.
The fact that religions are increasing in numbers means absolutely nothing. Human population is growing exponentially. Its the percentages that matter.
And the guy trying to suggest that atheism is like a puppy that is going to stop growing, what is going to stop it? Scienctific advancements have been the catalyst that started this trend. Unless some 2012 catastrophe sets us all back 1000 years, the trend is going to continue.
There are many, many studies that correlate atheism and ones level of education. Same with IQ. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be atheist. As levels of education continue to increase, so will the prevalence of atheism.
And yes, I realize that correlation does not imply causation, but unless you have an explanation for why smarter people tend to be atheist, youre just blowing smoke.
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“Smart” people tend to lack wisdom. “Smart” people tend to lack common sense. And, why would you suggest that science would draw people away from religion, when Muslims as well as Catholics invest large amounts of money into science? I think the atheist are scared that their numbers are going to start going down. So, now they’re throwing shit around. It’s funny how much an atheist needs others to join them when they proclaim individual reasoning, but claim at the same time religion uses “fear” to control people.[/quote]
Lol, Mr Ad Hominem Logic Man making retarded blanket statements. Smart people lack wisdom and common sense? Ok, show me the studies.
Science draws people away from religion because it debunks everything they hold sacred. We know Adam and Eve didnt exist. We know evolution created humans. We know the earth is billions of years old. The bible is supposed to be the word of God and now we know much of it to be false. Its easy to see why once people start doubting parts, they start doubting the whole.
The rest of your post is weak and I’m not even going to respond.[/quote]
Why billions. Why not trillions, or only millions?
Other things evolution can’t answer:
Why atoms are structured like they are
Emotion
Morality
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There’s no evolutionary advantage to being able to figure out the orbit of the moon, at least not directly. [/quote]
Unless we’re supposed to go there…