Growing Up in a Religious Family

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
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Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
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Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
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I get out of bed at 5 in the morning. Does that answer your question? By the way, going to Church is not about what I want.[/quote]

Yeah, its more about what was pounded into your head since birth and your inability to think for yourself.[/quote]

Ehhh, didn’t know taking the time to pray with my brothers and sisters in Christ was “not thinking” for myself.

I actually rarely go to Church for what it’s worth, because I don’t feel as though I need Church to have a relationship with God, but because you do go to Church does not mean you don’t think for yourself.

Atheists are always on the defensive, makes you sound pretty pathetic when you insult someone that is doing something they enjoy, take pride in and that does no harm to anyone else.[/quote]

doesnt think theres any benefit to being religious in this life.

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Actually, this is general Christian thinking. You suffer through life and by your good works and sacrifice you get to Heaven, which is the whole point of living. For Christians, Heaven is where you want to be, not on Earth. It’s getting to the afterlife that’s important.[/quote]

That is not the general thought for Catholics (not saying that Catholics are not Christians, just saying that is not the thought Catholics should have). Yes, you suffer in this life, but you do it with Joy. I want to be on Earth, but I know my destination is pointed towards eternal happiness at the same time. Those that wish not to be on this earth are upset with God’s will. I try not to be upset with God’s will. However, at the same time I do not treasure (or attempt not to) earthy living.[/quote]

What do you mean by “earthy living”? Sex? Alcohol? How do you have joy without treasuring?[/quote]

Sex is good, alcohol is good. Sex outside marriage, no. Drunkenness, no.

You are joyful for what God has given you on Earth, while not making idols out of material things.

Being joyful that God gave you beer, but not becoming an alcoholic. It is a balancing act, really.[/quote]

You can answer this in a PM if you want, but I thought you said you’re not a virgin? I assume you had sex before you became a Catholic and have since changed your thinking? I don’t agree with regular drunkenness, but it is fun every once in awhile.

You can treasure something without making it an idol. Treasuring does not equal idolizing.

That’s truly what life is about: achieving a balance. Moderation in most things is a good thing. Extremes are bad.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.[/quote]

Yes I’m very old at 25… according to your hub you are 20. World of difference. My idea of fun is going to clubs/bars drinking and hooking up. I guess if you’re idea of a fun Saturday night is staying home and playing checkers with your purity ring buddies then religion is for you.

I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. You keep calling me an old man, but I bet your life resembles that of a pensioner more than any other 20 something on this board.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. You keep calling me an old man, but I bet your life resembles that of a pensioner more than any other 20 something on this board.[/quote]

Why does his idea of fun have to conform to what yours is?

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. [/quote]

Stories of drunkedness and sexual conquest are hardly unique, therefore, hardly interesting. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times someone has wanted to share their tales of alcohol and casual sex. Maybe they can share about the last time they took a dump, too.

The real rebels and counter-cultural individualists, with truly unique and interesting stories, are the prudish. Outside of a choice between wearing a tie or spike collar, people tell the same damn “I got inebriated on such and such substance and banged such and such person.”

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.[/quote]

Yes I’m very old at 25… according to your hub you are 20. World of difference. My idea of fun is going to clubs/bars drinking and hooking up. I guess if you’re idea of a fun Saturday night is staying home and playing checkers with your purity ring buddies then religion is for you. [/quote]

Yeah, old man. Purity ring? What the fuck is that? I guess your idea of fun is making fun of others for their beliefs then telling all your buddies your open minded and tolerant?

No my Saturday nights usually involves going to the Museum Club and two stepping, going out to the duns to run jumps in my truck or quad, go run tables in the local pool hall, go to the Casino and play blackjack and poker, going to a house party or bar for a few rounds of beer. Maybe go camping and go cat fishing all night.d Once and awhile I’ll go to a show like a concert, comedy, play, or whatever I might like. If it’s rugby season I’ll go to the Green Room and have a little beer fest with the boys after a tournament.

For someone that has so much fun, you sure are closed minded.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
.[/quote]

I get out of bed at 5 in the morning. Does that answer your question? By the way, going to Church is not about what I want.[/quote]

Yeah, its more about what was pounded into your head since birth and your inability to think for yourself.[/quote]

Ehhh, didn’t know taking the time to pray with my brothers and sisters in Christ was “not thinking” for myself.

I actually rarely go to Church for what it’s worth, because I don’t feel as though I need Church to have a relationship with God, but because you do go to Church does not mean you don’t think for yourself.

Atheists are always on the defensive, makes you sound pretty pathetic when you insult someone that is doing something they enjoy, take pride in and that does no harm to anyone else.[/quote]

doesnt think theres any benefit to being religious in this life.

[/quote]

Actually, this is general Christian thinking. You suffer through life and by your good works and sacrifice you get to Heaven, which is the whole point of living. For Christians, Heaven is where you want to be, not on Earth. It’s getting to the afterlife that’s important.[/quote]

That is not the general thought for Catholics (not saying that Catholics are not Christians, just saying that is not the thought Catholics should have). Yes, you suffer in this life, but you do it with Joy. I want to be on Earth, but I know my destination is pointed towards eternal happiness at the same time. Those that wish not to be on this earth are upset with God’s will. I try not to be upset with God’s will. However, at the same time I do not treasure (or attempt not to) earthy living.[/quote]

What do you mean by “earthy living”? Sex? Alcohol? How do you have joy without treasuring?[/quote]

Sex is good, alcohol is good. Sex outside marriage, no. Drunkenness, no.

You are joyful for what God has given you on Earth, while not making idols out of material things.

Being joyful that God gave you beer, but not becoming an alcoholic. It is a balancing act, really.[/quote]

You can answer this in a PM if you want, but I thought you said you’re not a virgin? I assume you had sex before you became a Catholic and have since changed your thinking? I don’t agree with regular drunkenness, but it is fun every once in awhile.

You can treasure something without making it an idol. Treasuring does not equal idolizing.

That’s truly what life is about: achieving a balance. Moderation in most things is a good thing. Extremes are bad.
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No, I am not a virgin. I don’t get drunk out of the fact that it is expensive to do. I follow the motto, drink unto hilarity. It keeps money in my bank account while I still have fun.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. You keep calling me an old man, but I bet your life resembles that of a pensioner more than any other 20 something on this board.[/quote]

raj,

I’m not sure how all you people know my past so well, I have told small parts of my life. But it’s amazing that you know my youth. My youth life is actually pretty fucked up with “interesting stories.”

Filled with drugs, crime, fights, feuds, jail, prison, cops, and shunning and disowning by family members.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. [/quote]

Stories of drunkedness and sexual conquest are hardly unique, therefore, hardly interesting. Especially in this day and age. The rebels, and counter-cultural individualists, with truly unique stories, are the prudish. [/quote]

LOL!!!

Yeah, you’re right drunken sex with hot women is a waste of time. LOL!!!

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. You keep calling me an old man, but I bet your life resembles that of a pensioner more than any other 20 something on this board.[/quote]

raj,

I’m not sure how all you people know my past so well, I have told small parts of my life. But it’s amazing that you know my youth. My youth life is actually pretty fucked up with “interesting stories.”

Filled with drugs, crime, fights, feuds, jail, prison, cops, and shunning and disowning by family members.[/quote]

Awesome, that’s what I like to hear!

@Chim and Sloth: Thanks.

Changed my mind Brother Chris. I want to party with you! I’ve never been arrested. You’ve definitely one-upped me.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. [/quote]

Stories of drunkedness and sexual conquest are hardly unique, therefore, hardly interesting. Especially in this day and age. The rebels, and counter-cultural individualists, with truly unique stories, are the prudish. [/quote]

LOL!!!

Yeah, you’re right drunken sex with hot women is a waste of time. LOL!!!

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It is, I’d rather wait for my wife.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.[/quote]

Yes I’m very old at 25… according to your hub you are 20. World of difference. My idea of fun is going to clubs/bars drinking and hooking up. I guess if you’re idea of a fun Saturday night is staying home and playing checkers with your purity ring buddies then religion is for you. [/quote]

Yeah, old man. Purity ring? What the fuck is that? I guess your idea of fun is making fun of others for their beliefs then telling all your buddies your open minded and tolerant?

No my Saturday nights usually involves going to the Museum Club and two stepping, going out to the duns to run jumps in my truck or quad, go run tables in the local pool hall, go to the Casino and play blackjack and poker, going to a house party or bar for a few rounds of beer. Maybe go camping and go cat fishing all night.d Once and awhile I’ll go to a show like a concert, comedy, play, or whatever I might like. If it’s rugby season I’ll go to the Green Room and have a little beer fest with the boys after a tournament.

For someone that has so much fun, you sure are closed minded.[/quote]

Okay, so the two stepping, pool hall, casino, and camping would definitely be fun. I’ve done the last 3, but don’t know how to two step. Maybe IH and I can take lessons… :wink:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I feel sorry for you Brother Chris. One day you’re going to wakeup 15 years from now and realize that you wasted your youth and have 0 interesting stories to tell from your lifetime. You keep calling me an old man, but I bet your life resembles that of a pensioner more than any other 20 something on this board.[/quote]

raj,

I’m not sure how all you people know my past so well, I have told small parts of my life. But it’s amazing that you know my youth. My youth life is actually pretty fucked up with “interesting stories.”

Filled with drugs, crime, fights, feuds, jail, prison, cops, and shunning and disowning by family members.[/quote]

Awesome, that’s what I like to hear![/quote]

I regret most of it.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.[/quote]

Yes I’m very old at 25… according to your hub you are 20. World of difference. My idea of fun is going to clubs/bars drinking and hooking up. I guess if you’re idea of a fun Saturday night is staying home and playing checkers with your purity ring buddies then religion is for you. [/quote]

Yeah, old man. Purity ring? What the fuck is that? I guess your idea of fun is making fun of others for their beliefs then telling all your buddies your open minded and tolerant?

No my Saturday nights usually involves going to the Museum Club and two stepping, going out to the duns to run jumps in my truck or quad, go run tables in the local pool hall, go to the Casino and play blackjack and poker, going to a house party or bar for a few rounds of beer. Maybe go camping and go cat fishing all night.d Once and awhile I’ll go to a show like a concert, comedy, play, or whatever I might like. If it’s rugby season I’ll go to the Green Room and have a little beer fest with the boys after a tournament.

For someone that has so much fun, you sure are closed minded.[/quote]

Okay, so the two stepping, pool hall, casino, and camping would definitely be fun. I’ve done the last 3, but don’t know how to two step. Maybe IH and I can take lessons… ;)[/quote]

Just remember: Slow, slow, fast, fast. If you go to your call your local juke joint or country club they’ll likely have a two step club that teaches folks how to dance around happy hour during the week.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Basically if you hate fun, become a Catholic. [/quote]

I love having fun. I think you’re just an old man with something up his craw and is upset because he can’t have no more fun himself. So he’s just hating on other dudes.[/quote]

lol - this coming from a guy who is against premarital sex. Yeah, I’M the one who doesn’t have fun.
[/quote]

Is that an ad hominem…I think so. What’s your point old man?[/quote]

You seem pissed off… I guess if I couldn’t have sex or jack off and had sand up my privates i would be pissed off too.[/quote]

Now we’re just talking shit? Note to self…never argue with an old man, he’s just pissed he’s gotta use Viagra to have his “fun” and make himself look cool on the Internetz.[/quote]

Yes I’m very old at 25… according to your hub you are 20. World of difference. My idea of fun is going to clubs/bars drinking and hooking up. I guess if you’re idea of a fun Saturday night is staying home and playing checkers with your purity ring buddies then religion is for you. [/quote]

Yeah, old man. Purity ring? What the fuck is that? I guess your idea of fun is making fun of others for their beliefs then telling all your buddies your open minded and tolerant?

No my Saturday nights usually involves going to the Museum Club and two stepping, going out to the duns to run jumps in my truck or quad, go run tables in the local pool hall, go to the Casino and play blackjack and poker, going to a house party or bar for a few rounds of beer. Maybe go camping and go cat fishing all night.d Once and awhile I’ll go to a show like a concert, comedy, play, or whatever I might like. If it’s rugby season I’ll go to the Green Room and have a little beer fest with the boys after a tournament.

For someone that has so much fun, you sure are closed minded.[/quote]

As are most people who think us people with morals are weird, Brother Chris.

Religiously motivated morals or morals in general.