This is a bit long, but if you are interested in the Helio lineage vs Carlos lineage feuds, you should check this out:
These are all really good. Renzo makes a valid point saying that if you have such a great jiu jitsu, you have to go and show how good it is in the competitive arena like in UFC, MMA, jiu jitsu competitions. Rener in the next podcast countered that by saying that the major change that Helio Gracie made to Japanese jiu jitsu was making it the defensive and survival art, and trying to finish someone in a given time limit is not what it was all about. Definitely a good listen and Relson, Renzo, and Rener all make valid points.
I just heard Rener’s last night. It indeed is a great interview. They are all correct, as Rener notes, just a different philosophy.
I train under Relson and our school almost seems like we are in the middle ground of being between sport and self defense. I have trained at a Gracie Barra school and their jiu jitsu classes are more sport jiu jitsu oriented, for example we went over pulling half guard, which is something that we have never emphasized at our school. While we compete at our school, Relson’s, we also do self defense and we do go over countering strikes from the bottom, weapon take aways, head lock escapes, slipping punches, full nelson escapes, and other moves. I have never trained at a Gracie Academy school like Rorion’s or Pedro Valente’s, but Relson praised them for being so self defense orientated. Te last seminar I did with Relson he said pretty much the same thing he said in the interview expressing how he felt about the sport jiu jitsu after just returning from the World Championships, and that it is getting to be very boring with people playing for points and advantages.
prepare for a Gracie vs Gracie superfight.
But its true that each school (Helio and Carlos Sr.) serve their own purposes. To me that makes it all even better.