Gratuitous Use of the N Word?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Why would a white person get offended by a bunch of black people calling each other nigga? As long as they’re not saying anything derogatory about me why would I give a fuck what they call each other. Why it so hard to just accept that non-black people can’t use this word? [/quote]

It’s the fact that they are allowed to do and say things that you are based solely on your race.[/quote]

Can you clear up your response. I’m not sure your point came across.[/quote]

It isn’t the fact that they get to use it, it’s that I can’t.

Additionally I would say there are blacks who take offense to it’s use. And I know some are offended being called the n-word by other blacks.[/quote]

You are mistaken you are free to use this word. I’m not sure where people get this from. Most people need to turn off there TV’s. Really What Comidians, radio personalities, celebrities or anyone else who earns a buck off of the public do is a big differnce than YOU OR ME.

My use of this word is as censored as YOUR use of the word. I’m in the military how far do you think my carrer would go if I’m heard using this. Lets talk like grown men here. Really people lets stop acting like this word is against the law its not. We all know how and when this word is used and by who.

Now if I use this word amongst some young black kids then it might go be overlooked. If I use it around some adults they will look at me trying to figure out what is wrong. If you use it around an all white group you may get the same response. Now lets switch places. Your rights have not changed no one is going to arrest you for use of the word but the OUTCOME will be differnt because we dont share the same history with the same people.

I don’t assume if I go down to TN to a Meet and if the crowd is all white I can go around using terms that reflect bad on an entire group and walk away unscathed or treated with repect or if I’m one of the group.

Sorry Pootie I got caught up.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

Additionally I would say there are blacks who take offense to it’s use. And I know some are offended being called the n-word by other blacks.[/quote]

So true…but it’s one of those things we’ve come to accept as being ingrained in our social culture. In a sense I feel hypocritical in not liking it thrown around in casual conversation…YET when it comes to the word being used in entertaining context…I shrug it off and laugh of course.

The word wasn’t allowed by my mom growing up…I’ve never heard her use the word. Oddly enough,my half-white/black great-grandfather always jokingly called me and my siblings “peckerwoods.”

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Why would a white person get offended by a bunch of black people calling each other nigga? As long as they’re not saying anything derogatory about me why would I give a fuck what they call each other. Why it so hard to just accept that non-black people can’t use this word? [/quote]

It’s the fact that they are allowed to do and say things that you are based solely on your race.[/quote]

Can you clear up your response. I’m not sure your point came across.[/quote]

It isn’t the fact that they get to use it, it’s that I can’t.

Additionally I would say there are blacks who take offense to it’s use. And I know some are offended being called the n-word by other blacks.[/quote]

…why can’t you? If you use it in the wrong context, don’t be surprised if people who happen to be black as well as other races get pissed at you.

‘Nigga’ is used by many people lately casually, often to mean a stupid person and would usually only be seen as racist if the person saying it has that “vibe” about them. The white guy who grew up in south Houston who says it in a joking manner to black guys he grew up with doesn’t have shit to worry about when he uses it on the basketball court…and if his friends don’t like it, I am sure they will let him know.

Some jackass using it around people he barely knows will have to accept the consequences.

Those standards exist because HISTORY AND PEOPLE’S FEELINGS exist.

Fucking deal with it.

If you were man enough, saying it wouldn’t be a fearful thing for you and you would accept the consequences.

many find this word offensive lately. None of my friends use it at all so what is up with these blanket statements?

Like was said above, unless this is 1990, this was one weak attempt by a racist to start some shit here.[/quote]

Damn X I knew you were goin to beat me to this.

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While we’re talking about semantics and offensive words:

“Retarded” is now officially unacceptable along with “physically handicapped” and a bunch of others in NJ.

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verbal shit doesnt matter to me…I dont react to namecalling. lol

Touch something or someone I care about then you’re finished…forever.

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Maybe people just shouldn’t talk like dumbasses and get over stuff. I have other worries much bigger if someone said nigger, honky, chink etc. I really don’t care. I don’t get offended, I just lower my opinion of the person. It’s like that guy who says you know, or fuck after every other sentence.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Maybe people just shouldn’t talk like dumbasses and get over stuff. I have other worries much bigger if someone said nigger, honky, chink etc. I really don’t care. I don’t get offended, I just lower my opinion of the person. It’s like that guy who says you know, or fuck after every other sentence.[/quote]

Fuck.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Maybe people just shouldn’t talk like dumbasses and get over stuff. I have other worries much bigger if someone said nigger, honky, chink etc. I really don’t care. I don’t get offended, I just lower my opinion of the person. It’s like that guy who says you know, or fuck after every other sentence.[/quote]

And yet I can’t say I would NOT get offended. If someone decided to say the word in MY precense I can’t say how I would react but It would not be welcomed and I would not want to continue to be in that persons presence.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
verbal shit doesnt matter to me…I dont react to namecalling. lol

Touch something or someone I care about then you’re finished…forever.

[/quote]

That pretty sums up how I feel as well.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
verbal shit doesnt matter to me…I dont react to namecalling. lol

Touch something or someone I care about then you’re finished…forever.

[/quote]

That pretty sums up how I feel as well. [/quote]

Yeah I want to believe this. But when was the last time this was said either to you or at you. I would love to beleive that I’m above a word and that I could look past ignorance. But that does still have a stigma with me and If said either to me or in my presence It would piss me off. However anything typed is just brushed away like lint.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Maybe people just shouldn’t talk like dumbasses and get over stuff. I have other worries much bigger if someone said nigger, honky, chink etc. I really don’t care. I don’t get offended, I just lower my opinion of the person. It’s like that guy who says you know, or fuck after every other sentence.[/quote]

And yet I can’t say I would NOT get offended. If someone decided to say the word in MY precense I can’t say how I would react but It would not be welcomed and I would not want to continue to be in that persons presence.
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Most blacks would get offended even if they didn’t respond or show it because of what that word historically means.

I am not sure why anyone has a problem with this as a white person. That would require a complete dismissal of the history surrounding the issue which makes no sense at all.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Why would a white person get offended by a bunch of black people calling each other nigga? As long as they’re not saying anything derogatory about me why would I give a fuck what they call each other. Why it so hard to just accept that non-black people can’t use this word? [/quote]

It’s the fact that they are allowed to do and say things that you are based solely on your race.[/quote]

Can you clear up your response. I’m not sure your point came across.[/quote]

It isn’t the fact that they get to use it, it’s that I can’t.

Additionally I would say there are blacks who take offense to it’s use. And I know some are offended being called the n-word by other blacks.[/quote]

…why can’t you? If you use it in the wrong context, don’t be surprised if people who happen to be black as well as other races get pissed at you.

‘Nigga’ is used by many people lately casually, often to mean a stupid person and would usually only be seen as racist if the person saying it has that “vibe” about them. The white guy who grew up in south Houston who says it in a joking manner to black guys he grew up with doesn’t have shit to worry about when he uses it on the basketball court…and if his friends don’t like it, I am sure they will let him know.

Some jackass using it around people he barely knows will have to accept the consequences.

Those standards exist because HISTORY AND PEOPLE’S FEELINGS exist.

Fucking deal with it.

If you were man enough, saying it wouldn’t be a fearful thing for you and you would accept the consequences.

many find this word offensive lately. None of my friends use it at all so what is up with these blanket statements?

Like was said above, unless this is 1990, this was one weak attempt by a racist to start some shit here.[/quote]

Damn X I knew you were goin to beat me to this.
[/quote]

To both of you. I don’t use the word because I don’t like the word.

“…why can’t you? If you use it in the wrong context, don’t be surprised if people who happen to be black as well as other races get pissed at you.”

Unfortunately “context” includes what race you are.

“Some jackass using it around people he barely knows will have to accept the consequences.”
But the consequences aren’t even remotely the same for people of different races.

“Those standards exist because HISTORY AND PEOPLE’S FEELINGS exist.”
Blacks use of the word can offend peoples feelings every bit as much as me saying it. If we are going to start not using words because they might hurt feelings, you aren’t going to be left with many PC words.

“If you were man enough, saying it wouldn’t be a fearful thing for you and you would accept the consequences.” Like I said, my non-use of the word has nothing to do with fear. Maybe if you were man enough you wouldn’t let a stupid word hurt your feelings.

“many find this word offensive lately. None of my friends use it at all so what is up with these blanket statements?” You’re going to have to be more specific. I don’t know what this is referring to.

I simply do not understand why its “ok” to make fun of someone for their dress, or the shape of their face, or the fact that they wear glasses, or have pimples, BUT OH LAWDY don’t mention the color of his skin!

I’m not saying all that should be okay. I don’t make fun of anyone, My mom taught me better than that. However, why is it no one cares about teasing someone for a million other reasons (many genetically the person cannot control) but everyone has a hissy fit over skin color.

For those people who get supper extra double mad about the color of their skin, grow up. Everyone gets made fun of for things they cannot control. You have no extra bonus right to get offended or to make someone not offend you over your skin color.

I’ve been made fun of for being small, fat, white, christian, a virgin, wearing glasses, having scoliosis, having bad spelling, having bad social skills, growing facial hair late, being short, and on and on and on.

But you know what, I grew up and became and an adult.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
2002 called, they want that thing back where you say some year called and wants its thing back back.

I’m so sorry for that. I like you Lanky. A lot. I just wish someone else would’ve said what you said so I wouldn’t feel so bad about doing that.

PS: I like you.[/quote]

Lol, Nards, I’m a grown man. It takes more than a harmless jab like that for me to take offense. Plus it was funny, that always helps, haha.

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
1985 called, they want their debate back.[/quote]

1987 called, they want their beloved tv dad back.[/quote]

Full House was running well into the 90s, you dick!

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I think it is because various white groups suffered grat degrees of discrimination over the years such as the irish and polish but but don’t make dn issue of Mick or hunky. While not technically slaves, the conditions of the coal mines and sweat shops were horrible.

But that being said, why nit understand why it offends blacks? It’s not polite talk and every with an iq over six knows that. So don’t say it. You wouldn’t say fuck in front of grandma or your minister. Grow up and learn done social graces regardless of race.

I know my father didn’t tolerate any racial slurs. They’re just not necessary .

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
I think it is because various white groups suffered grat degrees of discrimination over the years such as the irish and polish but but don’t make dn issue of Mick or hunky. While not technically slaves, the conditions of the coal mines and sweat shops were horrible.
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WTF?

I’ve never even heard of those words before so how do they equal the same as something as widely known as the “n word” with a relevant social history less than 20 years old?

Of course they don’t get upset if it has almost ZERO significant meaning today.

LOL!!

[quote]
But that being said, why nit understand why it offends blacks? It’s not polite talk and every with an iq over six knows that. So don’t say it. You wouldn’t say fuck in front of grandma or your minister. Grow up and learn done social graces regardless of race.

I know my father didn’t tolerate any racial slurs. They’re just not necessary .[/quote]

Who the fuck are you talking to? Big and I have both written that we and our friends don’t use it…so who are you speaking to?

If I ever do use it, you can bet the context and the company I keep when doing so will be respectful of the word and situation.

No one needs you for life lessons, pops.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
verbal shit doesnt matter to me…I dont react to namecalling. lol

Touch something or someone I care about then you’re finished…forever.

[/quote]

That pretty sums up how I feel as well. [/quote]

Yeah I want to believe this. But when was the last time this was said either to you or at you. I would love to beleive that I’m above a word and that I could look past ignorance. But that does still have a stigma with me and If said either to me or in my presence It would piss me off. However anything typed is just brushed away like lint.[/quote]

Well…I’m not saying that I wouldn’t be offended or eventually get upset about it. BUT I wouldn’t go off on someone for saying it. I’ve learned to not let things of that sort get to me to a point that I get beside myself. Which is what happened the last time someone used that word towards me.

Then again…how many people still use the word directly at someone as a racial slur?? Most use of that word in a derogatory context happens behind closed doors.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
verbal shit doesnt matter to me…I dont react to namecalling. lol

Touch something or someone I care about then you’re finished…forever.

[/quote]

That pretty sums up how I feel as well. [/quote]

Yeah I want to believe this. But when was the last time this was said either to you or at you. I would love to beleive that I’m above a word and that I could look past ignorance. But that does still have a stigma with me and If said either to me or in my presence It would piss me off. However anything typed is just brushed away like lint.[/quote]

Well…I’m not saying that I wouldn’t be offended or eventually get upset about it. BUT I wouldn’t go off on someone for saying it. I’ve learned to not let things of that sort get to me to a point that I get beside myself. Which is what happened the last time someone used that word towards me.

Then again…how many people still use the word directly at someone as a racial slur?? Most use of that word in a derogatory context happens behind closed doors. [/quote]

…or on the internet, because let’s face it, it isn’t like guys like the OP would start this conversation at work in the presence of several other black people like he did here.

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DD outside of the oh lawdy remark, I guess that is just a country thing. What part of using this word do you relate to making fun of my skin color?

And that reply seemed to be for X since I’m not sure how you feel that word would an does not reflect just as bad on me if said in public not around a group who all look like myself.

Remember I’m not on tv, or radio.

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op

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[quote]four60 wrote:
DD outside of the oh lawdy remark, I guess that is just a country thing. What part of using this word do you relate to making fun of my skin color?

And that reply seemed to be for X since I’m not sure how you feel that word would an does not reflect just as bad on me if said in public not around a group who all look like myself.

Remember I’m not on tv, or radio.[/quote]

If someone called me Nigger, my first reaction would be confusion.

“Did this white boy just call me Nigger? Does he want m to die?”

But once I get the cobwebs out my brain, I would commence beating him to the floor.

Another problem I have is white kids listening to rap music and thinking they can say the “Nigga” lines with no problem. That could easily lead them to an ass whipping down the line.