Gratuitous Use of the N Word?

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

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I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
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Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
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More history fail on T-Nation if you’re implying that “The Left” was the only political leaning that pushed “civil rights”. “The Left” jumped on board was was an inevitable course of action that was ‘pushed’ by ‘conservatives’ for decades before. The Democrats of the day were the ones that most heavily opposed (and filibustered) much of the ‘civil rights’ bills in the years preceding 1964. MLK-Jr was a Republican-- hardly a poster child for “the Left” of the day.[/quote]

LOL @ this

Someone forgot the Democrats and Republicans traded places.[/quote]

Sorry, kiwi-- not at all. They didn’t “trade places”. Save your light weight drivel for PWI.

Wait, did I just call you “kiwi” in a thread about epithets? Damn.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

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I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
[/quote]

Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
[/quote]

More history fail on T-Nation if you’re implying that “The Left” was the only political leaning that pushed “civil rights”. “The Left” jumped on board was was an inevitable course of action that was ‘pushed’ by ‘conservatives’ for decades before. The Democrats of the day were the ones that most heavily opposed (and filibustered) much of the ‘civil rights’ bills in the years preceding 1964. MLK-Jr was a Republican-- hardly a poster child for “the Left” of the day.[/quote]

LOL @ this

Someone forgot the Democrats and Republicans traded places.[/quote]

Sorry, kiwi-- not at all. They didn’t “trade places”. Save your light weight drivel for PWI.

Wait, did I just call you “kiwi” in a thread about epithets? Damn.[/quote]

You live in Maine, you’re practically Canadian.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

[/quote]

I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
[/quote]

Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
[/quote]

More history fail on T-Nation if you’re implying that “The Left” was the only political leaning that pushed “civil rights”. “The Left” jumped on board was was an inevitable course of action that was ‘pushed’ by ‘conservatives’ for decades before. The Democrats of the day were the ones that most heavily opposed (and filibustered) much of the ‘civil rights’ bills in the years preceding 1964. MLK-Jr was a Republican-- hardly a poster child for “the Left” of the day.[/quote]

LOL @ this

Someone forgot the Democrats and Republicans traded places.[/quote]

Sorry, kiwi-- not at all. They didn’t “trade places”. Save your light weight drivel for PWI.

Wait, did I just call you “kiwi” in a thread about epithets? Damn.[/quote]

You live in Maine, you’re practically Canadian.[/quote]

Hey! The “C” word! Now THAT hurt my feelings.

Sensitive, eh?

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:
yayayayayaya [/quote]

Dude what’s your point. You’re in this thread ranting away, trying to show off your perceived intellectualism but you’re getting no where. You need to shut the fuck up with the American History X bullshit.

The N-Word is in America’s cultural lexicon. It’s there because of slavery. It happened, it was awful. Society is slowly purging racism - Affirmative action and the like and mainly symbolic to emphasize equality. The fact that some white people feel threatened is ludicrous. Until you show us your own personal experience or show any documented evidence that you’re the subject of reverse prejudice by the establishment stfu. [/quote]
-The N-word was used by blacks themselves during older days without any humorous or negative connotations. It was even championed by some advocates for black rights.
-Blacks are there because of slavery, so what is your point? They don’t want to go back because
-The legacy of slavery (which is no worse than anything that goes on in Africa today) allowed them access to a life of dignity that they have been unable to build for themselves. The violence and slavery blacks carry out on each other every day (making neo-nazis or the KKK look like pussies) never comes with a silver lining.
-It’s not ludicrous. Read up some statistics. White women who cohabit or marry with black men are 12 times more likely to get killed. Blacks kill american whites at a rate 17 times higher than the other way around. Whites never rape blacks but blacks rape tens of thousands of white americans annually. Luckily for whites, most victims of black committed slayings are still black. You have to wonder how many white people were abused while blacks rioted over Rodney King (a criminal) or how many white girls were sexually assaulted while liberals were rallying about the Duke lacrosse hoax which was never believable in the first place. How many white lives are lost while Hollywood makes a movie about an isolated case of white on black crime.
-Countries like Finland pour disproportionate money on african refugees for doing nothing and go out of their way to protect their feelings from reality, just like America.

Expecting nothing of the african race and so never criticizing them for their underachievement while expecting near divinity from whites is arguably a form of racism against blacks itself (unable to make anything out of the unmatched resources of Africa while freezing, harshly barren countries like Iceland or Finland get routinely rated as the best to live, and only the last few generations have seen breathing, walking blacks) implicating that blacks need to be guided.[/quote]

Please provide legitimate references for your statistic.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

What is your point. You can’t hind not liking big noses. Can’t hide a southern accent and all the negative connotations that go with it. What’s so special about darker skin?
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My husband was born and raised in Texas. Some members of his family have significant accents. His is less prominent, but present. However, when he’s in a business meeting and needs to represent himself as sharp and competent it’s barely discernible. Similarly, I was born in NY and grew up on Long Island and in New Jersey and Connecticut. When I got to Connecticut and kids made fun of the way I said “dog” and “water” I fixed the way I said those things. When I was waitressing for tips in Richmond, Virginia I got rid of my Northeastern accent altogether and replaced my use of “you guys” with “y’all.” At this point I am under the impression that it is not possible to regionalize me by accent. Strong accents disadvantage. They are markers for educational and intellectual deficits, just as slovenly written skills are.

As for the kike thing, I will merely say that the word bothers me not at all (half European Jew, half Irish Catholic) HOWEVER if someone with a German accent were to call me Jew, Jew-girl, Kike, or any variation of Juden that I pick up as being a distinct identifier…I would go fucking crazy and while I don’t fight I would certainly escalate things to such a degree that if my husband were present there would be a fight.

I can’t even imagine the rage I would feel if I were black and a white stranger called me a nigger. And I’m pretty cheery and mild as people go.[/quote]
So you think being a jew is a huge insult. Must be hard to wake up every day and run away from your genes.[/quote]

Did I say that? No. I don’t worry about it at all, and in fact rarely think about it. I’m an American and as such family religious background and ethnicity matter very little in comparison to other identifiers, such as economic and educational attainment.

But that sort of proves the point that I can choose to highlight it as an aspect of my makeup or not, as I see fit. Black people don’t have that choice.

But at any rate I am very specific that only the people whose near ancestors tried to exterminate people like me need to tread carefully with regard to using any potentially negative form of Jewish as an identifier for me. That’s not to say I dislike Germans. I don’t. My husband is part German, which is obvious looking at him, with his square jaw and outstanding posture. I simply say that I will not react well to people who sound like Heinrich Himmler calling me a name so recently used as a derogatory by the people of the Third Reich, who tortured and killed the people they called by these names.

Were I living in a country whose dominant race enslaved and oppressed my own, I would be very touchy indeed about the use of their identifiers, whether I allowed friends and sundry others to use them or not.

As BG said, it’s all context.[/quote]

You Jews cannot blend in with us Whites. We all know you control the media, banking and Hollywood. If we want to find you, we just look there :slight_smile: LOL Obviously I’m kidding :slight_smile:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
WHY?? Why can’t we let this fuckin thread DIE??? 18 Pages of this shit. Just stop it seriously. I say this with all due respect but:

FUCK YOU STEELY D for bringing this rotten thread back to life. ESPECIALLY seeing that it was started by a race baiting troll.

Good Job T-Nation you have devolved the lowest form of existence…political pundits.

Bravo [/quote]

It matters not if he was trolling. The fact is, we picked the ball and are having a legitimate discussion. No harm there. If it wasn’t an interest to members, it wouldn’t be 18 pages as you pointed out. And the OP is not exactly in the center of the discussion. I also think OP was sincere, no matter how confused or misguided :slight_smile:
Pootie Tang, perhaps you missed the memo but the internet is no longer designated as required reading. You’re allowed to skim vast portions of it and in fact will not be given any penalties if you skip the entire thing!

Enjoy your newfound freedom![/quote]

It is indeed your prerogative to discuss whatever is in your interest. I just wanted to point out that this debate was not started by someone who truly wanted to discuss this topic. Their intent was to use a hot button topic to incite a response from the people that use this forum. As evidenced by the 18+ pages they were extremely successful in their aim.

If you want to play marionette to their puppet master then by all means go right ahead. I just wanted to point out the obvious manipulation that you have fallen for and continue to fall for, with gusto. Congrats. I will take my leave of this discussion as is my right to.[/quote]

[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Do those bullets he was talking about in the flick actually exist? Cuz damn![/quote]

[quote]four60 wrote:
no WAY. IF they did. I would be at the gun shop right now. No joke. I gushed like a little girl when that shotty went off. Hell I had a dream last night that me the Laker Girls and my AA-12 were walking thru the Valley of the Shadow of Death and I truly was fearing no Evil.[/quote]

Late reply on this but yes exist.

AA-12. World's deadliest shotgun! - YouTube @ 4:16

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

What is your point. You can’t hind not liking big noses. Can’t hide a southern accent and all the negative connotations that go with it. What’s so special about darker skin?
[/quote]

My husband was born and raised in Texas. Some members of his family have significant accents. His is less prominent, but present. However, when he’s in a business meeting and needs to represent himself as sharp and competent it’s barely discernible. Similarly, I was born in NY and grew up on Long Island and in New Jersey and Connecticut. When I got to Connecticut and kids made fun of the way I said “dog” and “water” I fixed the way I said those things. When I was waitressing for tips in Richmond, Virginia I got rid of my Northeastern accent altogether and replaced my use of “you guys” with “y’all.” At this point I am under the impression that it is not possible to regionalize me by accent. Strong accents disadvantage. They are markers for educational and intellectual deficits, just as slovenly written skills are.

As for the kike thing, I will merely say that the word bothers me not at all (half European Jew, half Irish Catholic) HOWEVER if someone with a German accent were to call me Jew, Jew-girl, Kike, or any variation of Juden that I pick up as being a distinct identifier…I would go fucking crazy and while I don’t fight I would certainly escalate things to such a degree that if my husband were present there would be a fight.

I can’t even imagine the rage I would feel if I were black and a white stranger called me a nigger. And I’m pretty cheery and mild as people go.[/quote]
So you think being a jew is a huge insult. Must be hard to wake up every day and run away from your genes.[/quote]

Did I say that? No. I don’t worry about it at all, and in fact rarely think about it. I’m an American and as such family religious background and ethnicity matter very little in comparison to other identifiers, such as economic and educational attainment.

But that sort of proves the point that I can choose to highlight it as an aspect of my makeup or not, as I see fit. Black people don’t have that choice.

But at any rate I am very specific that only the people whose near ancestors tried to exterminate people like me need to tread carefully with regard to using any potentially negative form of Jewish as an identifier for me. That’s not to say I dislike Germans. I don’t. My husband is part German, which is obvious looking at him, with his square jaw and outstanding posture. I simply say that I will not react well to people who sound like Heinrich Himmler calling me a name so recently used as a derogatory by the people of the Third Reich, who tortured and killed the people they called by these names.

Were I living in a country whose dominant race enslaved and oppressed my own, I would be very touchy indeed about the use of their identifiers, whether I allowed friends and sundry others to use them or not.

As BG said, it’s all context.[/quote]

You Jews cannot blend in with us Whites. We all know you control the media, banking and Hollywood. If we want to find you, we just look there :slight_smile: LOL Obviously I’m kidding :)[/quote]

I’ll be at the bar with the drunken Irishmen because I’m sneaky like that - I can control the media, banking and Hollywood from my iPhone while I rack up free beers!

(The iPhone…which I got my Aryan husband to buy for me. The “master race”…hahaha! Not if I have my way about it!)

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

[/quote]

I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
[/quote]

Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
[/quote]

Hippies are more likely to discipline their children?[/quote]

Depends on what you mean by discipline. I think Hippies would be more likely to talk to their children about ramifications of their actions, while conservatives just whip ass. Personally, I got my ass whipped and it didn’t work on me.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

What is your point. You can’t hind not liking big noses. Can’t hide a southern accent and all the negative connotations that go with it. What’s so special about darker skin?
[/quote]

My husband was born and raised in Texas. Some members of his family have significant accents. His is less prominent, but present. However, when he’s in a business meeting and needs to represent himself as sharp and competent it’s barely discernible. Similarly, I was born in NY and grew up on Long Island and in New Jersey and Connecticut. When I got to Connecticut and kids made fun of the way I said “dog” and “water” I fixed the way I said those things. When I was waitressing for tips in Richmond, Virginia I got rid of my Northeastern accent altogether and replaced my use of “you guys” with “y’all.” At this point I am under the impression that it is not possible to regionalize me by accent. Strong accents disadvantage. They are markers for educational and intellectual deficits, just as slovenly written skills are.

As for the kike thing, I will merely say that the word bothers me not at all (half European Jew, half Irish Catholic) HOWEVER if someone with a German accent were to call me Jew, Jew-girl, Kike, or any variation of Juden that I pick up as being a distinct identifier…I would go fucking crazy and while I don’t fight I would certainly escalate things to such a degree that if my husband were present there would be a fight.

I can’t even imagine the rage I would feel if I were black and a white stranger called me a nigger. And I’m pretty cheery and mild as people go.[/quote]
So you think being a jew is a huge insult. Must be hard to wake up every day and run away from your genes.[/quote]

Did I say that? No. I don’t worry about it at all, and in fact rarely think about it. I’m an American and as such family religious background and ethnicity matter very little in comparison to other identifiers, such as economic and educational attainment.

But that sort of proves the point that I can choose to highlight it as an aspect of my makeup or not, as I see fit. Black people don’t have that choice.

But at any rate I am very specific that only the people whose near ancestors tried to exterminate people like me need to tread carefully with regard to using any potentially negative form of Jewish as an identifier for me. That’s not to say I dislike Germans. I don’t. My husband is part German, which is obvious looking at him, with his square jaw and outstanding posture. I simply say that I will not react well to people who sound like Heinrich Himmler calling me a name so recently used as a derogatory by the people of the Third Reich, who tortured and killed the people they called by these names.

Were I living in a country whose dominant race enslaved and oppressed my own, I would be very touchy indeed about the use of their identifiers, whether I allowed friends and sundry others to use them or not.

As BG said, it’s all context.[/quote]

You Jews cannot blend in with us Whites. We all know you control the media, banking and Hollywood. If we want to find you, we just look there :slight_smile: LOL Obviously I’m kidding :)[/quote]

When did Italians become Whites? :wink: <—wink, means I want you in emoticon. Obviously I am kidding, you guys cook a mean plate of spaghetti and meat balls!

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

What is your point. You can’t hind not liking big noses. Can’t hide a southern accent and all the negative connotations that go with it. What’s so special about darker skin?
[/quote]

My husband was born and raised in Texas. Some members of his family have significant accents. His is less prominent, but present. However, when he’s in a business meeting and needs to represent himself as sharp and competent it’s barely discernible. Similarly, I was born in NY and grew up on Long Island and in New Jersey and Connecticut. When I got to Connecticut and kids made fun of the way I said “dog” and “water” I fixed the way I said those things. When I was waitressing for tips in Richmond, Virginia I got rid of my Northeastern accent altogether and replaced my use of “you guys” with “y’all.” At this point I am under the impression that it is not possible to regionalize me by accent. Strong accents disadvantage. They are markers for educational and intellectual deficits, just as slovenly written skills are.

As for the kike thing, I will merely say that the word bothers me not at all (half European Jew, half Irish Catholic) HOWEVER if someone with a German accent were to call me Jew, Jew-girl, Kike, or any variation of Juden that I pick up as being a distinct identifier…I would go fucking crazy and while I don’t fight I would certainly escalate things to such a degree that if my husband were present there would be a fight.

I can’t even imagine the rage I would feel if I were black and a white stranger called me a nigger. And I’m pretty cheery and mild as people go.[/quote]
So you think being a jew is a huge insult. Must be hard to wake up every day and run away from your genes.[/quote]

Did I say that? No. I don’t worry about it at all, and in fact rarely think about it. I’m an American and as such family religious background and ethnicity matter very little in comparison to other identifiers, such as economic and educational attainment.

But that sort of proves the point that I can choose to highlight it as an aspect of my makeup or not, as I see fit. Black people don’t have that choice.

But at any rate I am very specific that only the people whose near ancestors tried to exterminate people like me need to tread carefully with regard to using any potentially negative form of Jewish as an identifier for me. That’s not to say I dislike Germans. I don’t. My husband is part German, which is obvious looking at him, with his square jaw and outstanding posture. I simply say that I will not react well to people who sound like Heinrich Himmler calling me a name so recently used as a derogatory by the people of the Third Reich, who tortured and killed the people they called by these names.

Were I living in a country whose dominant race enslaved and oppressed my own, I would be very touchy indeed about the use of their identifiers, whether I allowed friends and sundry others to use them or not.

As BG said, it’s all context.[/quote]

You Jews cannot blend in with us Whites. We all know you control the media, banking and Hollywood. If we want to find you, we just look there :slight_smile: LOL Obviously I’m kidding :)[/quote]

I’ll be at the bar with the drunken Irishmen because I’m sneaky like that - I can control the media, banking and Hollywood from my iPhone while I rack up free beers!

(The iPhone…which I got my Aryan husband to buy for me. The “master race”…hahaha! Not if I have my way about it!)
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Hey, don’t be including Irishmen into that “White” category (our local white supremacist will get upset), we all know they are just inside out blacks (the original was much more derogatory, instead of blacks I am sure you can figure out what they used), and blacks are just burnt crackas!

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

[/quote]

I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
[/quote]

Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
[/quote]

Hippies are more likely to discipline their children?[/quote]

Depends on what you mean by discipline. I think Hippies would be more likely to talk to their children about ramifications of their actions, while conservatives just whip ass. Personally, I got my ass whipped and it didn’t work on me.
[/quote]

That’s why you gotta whoop ass and explain to them. Whooping ass and not explaining it is called a fist fight, explaining it and not whooping ass is called having a limp wrist.

Studies have show that at a young age, if children are occasionally spanked (not beat) for wrong doings it produces positive affects in the mental health development of a child.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I blame this entire thread on the hippie generation who didn’t discipline their kids, who goes around thinking they can call someone a slur…without knowing the person…and not get their shit pushed in?[/quote]

Funny, I learned that on the playground before I was 6.

[/quote]

I would much more expect it from someone of a conservative background that a flower child.
[/quote]

Who do you think is more likely to give discipline to their children? Conservatives or hippies?[/quote]

The civil rights movement was heavily pushed by the left… and yes, hippies.
[/quote]

Hippies are more likely to discipline their children?[/quote]

Depends on what you mean by discipline. I think Hippies would be more likely to talk to their children about ramifications of their actions, while conservatives just whip ass. Personally, I got my ass whipped and it didn’t work on me.
[/quote]

That’s why you gotta whoop ass and explain to them. Whooping ass and not explaining it is called a fist fight, explaining it and not whooping ass is called having a limp wrist.

Studies have show that at a young age, if children are occasionally spanked (not beat) for wrong doings it produces positive affects in the mental health development of a child.[/quote]

Oh, it was explained and I knew why I was getting my ass beat. Still ineffective. My kids know when I’m serious without whipping their ass. Al it produces are fear and mistrust IMO.

Perhaps you could produce some of these “studies”.