[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
My first paragraph was just copying and pasting your reasons for not using something and pointing out that it in no way relates to the statistical evaluation you set forth prior for using racial judgments. You are contradicting your previous argument, or at least altering it.
I’m not denying anything. But there were several assertions you made that were false.
You really want to get into me getting called nigger? Ok. While driving through baptist town in greenwood Mississippi with my now wife, I’ve had a group of black teenagers run out into the street blocking our car and shout “niggers” at us. So, yes, I’m fucking serious. Scared the shit out of her. What was my proper reaction to that term? Do they “own” that word because there ancestors were literally slave cotton pickers?
Or since me and my woman getting called nigger is apparently so comical for you and X, how about this? I was rear ended by a kid. The kid took off and ran. I called the cops. A black officer shows up. Officer talks down to me and refers to me as “boy” throughout the encounter and threatens to write me tickets even though I was the one that got hit.
Yes, I’m serious.
Lastly, because you’ve apparently taken it that way, I’m not arguing that I should get to use it. I’ve said it multiple times. I don’t like it, I can’t even remember ever saying it. I find it rude and offensive. But why can’t I get offended for the slaves of the past as much as a black guy?[/quote]
First, you did not such thing and I did not contradict myself. Maybe you’re misunderstanding me or I’m not as eloquent as I think in making my point.
If you’re going to claim that “several assertions I made were false” you should explicitly reference those statements and then rebut their falsity. Simply stating “several statements you made were false” gets us nowhere.
What were you to do when the teenagers ran into the street and called you nigger? Seriously? Let’s do a thought experiment here: What if a group of teenagers ran into the street and while blocking your car called you one of any of dozens of offensive and intimidating names? I’m guessing your wife would still be scared. Are you really implying your poor wife was scared because they called you niggers? C’mon. What’s your reaction to be? I guess your reaction should be whatever you feel comfortable with when a group of teenagers runs into traffic, blocks your cars and tries to intimidate you. I don’t think there is a rule book there. You can (1) continue to slowly move your car and if a motherfucker don’t want to move, he / she can become a hood ornament; (2) you can get out and commence to street sweeping the lil fuckers out of the road; (3) you can call the police and wait for help, only using option (1) above as your last resort. I guess I’m not really moved by the color of the kids in this instance or their choice of the word nigger. And I didn’t say it was comical. But I still can’t believe you’re using it as the crux to make your argument.
Next example. The cop in question simply appears to be a cocksucker. Well guess what…alot of cops are cocksuckers. Yours just happened to be black. He called you boy because he could. And how can we be sure your attitude in no way shape or form contributed to the incident? Maybe you took offense to a black officer calling you boy. Would you feel as offended if an asshole white cop called you boy? Is “boy” that hurtful to you? Or is it because the officer was black? Shit happens. Even if it were a racist incident, it’s the world we live in. We live among assholes. I’m not sure what if anything it has to do with your point, and if you ever had a point, it’s really not any more clear than when you started.
As for your closing remarks, you’re certainly welcome to be as offended by its use as anyone else. But yes, blacks do “own” the word - they certainly paid for it. [/quote]
You are so missing my point. Yes, I would react the same way if the kids had been white. Yes I would react the same way if the officer was white. You are the one claiming race should be part of context, that’s why I included it. Yeah, shit happens. Shit happens to everybody. i let it roll off my back, which is once again my point.
So a black guy born and raised in south Africa payed for it huh? How exactly did professor X pay for it?
