Graduated From Law School

I just graduated from a Top 40 law school. Horray! Celebrate with me! Tell lawyer jokes!

Now… does anyone know of any jobs? Anyone want to hire a bodybuilding law graduate who’s taking the Colorado bar exam? Should I include my big three numbers on my resume?

Now, I think I’ll hit the gym. Everyone knows that I need big gunz to get hired…

graduated law school, can’t figure out how to make only one thread :wink:

Guilty as charged. I tried to post it, and then it timed out. I tried again-- the same thing. I even looked to see if the thread posted before I tried again. I guess they eventually all posted. Sorry for the extra garbage.

Nonetheless, I’m happy to be done.

Now if I can just figure out the interwebz, I’d be good to go.

I got nothing. But I expect big things from PMPM.

EDIT: Oh yeah, congrats!

I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.
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What slope? When do you want me to start? What distance should I run? I currently do hill sprints and started 5k runs this week.

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.
[/quote]

What slope? When do you want me to start? What distance should I run? I currently do hill sprints and started 5k runs this week. [/quote]

Sorry, your fake offer just got deferred.

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.
[/quote]

What slope? When do you want me to start? What distance should I run? I currently do hill sprints and started 5k runs this week. [/quote]

Sorry, your fake offer just got deferred.[/quote]

Ha! Given my class’ current job prospects, this doesn’t surprise me.

Seriously, though, I’d totally run right now for $20k. Anything to pay those loans. (And the news just announced a “Stripper Pole Tax” in New York-- I can’t even get a break there!)

Well congrats there, pardner. Graduated three years ago last week. Kinda strange to think I’ve been a lawyer as long as I was in law school. I have no real advice to impart other than avoid civil defense work if at all possible. What is it you’d like to do, anyway?

[quote]eic wrote:
Well congrats there, pardner. Graduated three years ago last week. Kinda strange to think I’ve been a lawyer as long as I was in law school. I have no real advice to impart other than avoid civil defense work if at all possible. What is it you’d like to do, anyway? [/quote]

I set myself up for three different ways to go:

  1. Appellate work
  2. Transactional/Business Law (including securities)
  3. Civil litigation

Why should I avoid civil defense work? Aren’t they the ones with the money?

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.
[/quote]

What slope? When do you want me to start? What distance should I run? I currently do hill sprints and started 5k runs this week. [/quote]

Sorry, your fake offer just got deferred.[/quote]

Ha! Given my class’ current job prospects, this doesn’t surprise me.

Seriously, though, I’d totally run right now for $20k. Anything to pay those loans. (And the news just announced a “Stripper Pole Tax” in New York-- I can’t even get a break there!)
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Haha…the idea was that you were supposed to help me chase injured skiers in ambulances. Seriously though, couldn’t you find a small law gig if you’re that desperate?

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
I have an office at the bottom of a ski slope. If you can run well, I’ll give you $20,000 a year.
[/quote]

What slope? When do you want me to start? What distance should I run? I currently do hill sprints and started 5k runs this week. [/quote]

Sorry, your fake offer just got deferred.[/quote]

Ha! Given my class’ current job prospects, this doesn’t surprise me.

Seriously, though, I’d totally run right now for $20k. Anything to pay those loans. (And the news just announced a “Stripper Pole Tax” in New York-- I can’t even get a break there!)
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Haha…the idea was that you were supposed to help me chase injured skiers in ambulances. Seriously though, couldn’t you find a small law gig if you’re that desperate?[/quote]

Sorry… I missed it because I’m doing journal work while trying to get my iTunes to transfer while going to this thread (f**king iTunes!). I probably shouldn’t post while multitasking. I knew you were joking, I just don’t convey my wit well here.

I’m not really desperate, I started looking today for the first time sine January. I can’t get hired if I don’t apply. This thread is was more about 1) bragging that I graduated, 2) seeing if anyone had a job (why not?) and 3) getting more involved on the forums here.

I started here with the V-Diet, started reading the articles, and then started reading the forum. So, I guess I’m trying the next step: actually participating.

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]eic wrote:
Well congrats there, pardner. Graduated three years ago last week. Kinda strange to think I’ve been a lawyer as long as I was in law school. I have no real advice to impart other than avoid civil defense work if at all possible. What is it you’d like to do, anyway? [/quote]

I set myself up for three different ways to go:

  1. Appellate work
  2. Transactional/Business Law (including securities)
  3. Civil litigation

Why should I avoid civil defense work? Aren’t they the ones with the money? [/quote]

That’s more than a five minute answer. In a nutshell, defense work is a total grind. Every defense attorney I’ve ever met with perhaps a couple of exceptions, has clearly hated life.

Your sole job is basically to spend as much money as you can on a case, which typically means you must occupy your time with completely mindless, irrelevant, and unnecessary paperwork. There is no real “goal” other than to waste time and money. Winning or losing is not as important as being able to bill as much as possible.

Plaintiff’s work, by contrast, has but one purpose: To win. It’s like gambling: You pick cases that give you the best chances of success, then fight like hell to win. The whole purpose is to find a way to help your client and make the most amount of money possible, all while doing the least amount of work possible. Plaintiff’s firms are generally a lot more laid back; defense firms are stuffy and uptight.

Appellate work is a sweet gig if you can find a way to make it happen. Of the options you listed, that is by far the best. With any luck, I will find my way into full-time appellate work someday. It’s hard to make a living doing it, though. I estimate that the ratio of trial attorneys to dedicated appellate attorneys is probably around 50 to 1. Maybe even worse.

[quote]tmartinez wrote:
I just graduated from a Top 40 law school.
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Top 40? c’mon now. At this point you’re making arbitrary distinctions about solid TTTerritory. This is like that guy who called Tufts a little Ivy.

[quote]eic wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:

[quote]eic wrote:
Well congrats there, pardner. Graduated three years ago last week. Kinda strange to think I’ve been a lawyer as long as I was in law school. I have no real advice to impart other than avoid civil defense work if at all possible. What is it you’d like to do, anyway? [/quote]

I set myself up for three different ways to go:

  1. Appellate work
  2. Transactional/Business Law (including securities)
  3. Civil litigation

Why should I avoid civil defense work? Aren’t they the ones with the money? [/quote]

That’s more than a five minute answer. In a nutshell, defense work is a total grind. Every defense attorney I’ve ever met with perhaps a couple of exceptions, has clearly hated life.

Your sole job is basically to spend as much money as you can on a case, which typically means you must occupy your time with completely mindless, irrelevant, and unnecessary paperwork. There is no real “goal” other than to waste time and money. Winning or losing is not as important as being able to bill as much as possible.

Plaintiff’s work, by contrast, has but one purpose: To win. It’s like gambling: You pick cases that give you the best chances of success, then fight like hell to win. The whole purpose is to find a way to help your client and make the most amount of money possible, all while doing the least amount of work possible. Plaintiff’s firms are generally a lot more laid back; defense firms are stuffy and uptight.

Appellate work is a sweet gig if you can find a way to make it happen. Of the options you listed, that is by far the best. With any luck, I will find my way into full-time appellate work someday. It’s hard to make a living doing it, though. I estimate that the ratio of trial attorneys to dedicated appellate attorneys is probably around 50 to 1. Maybe even worse.

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I agree, appellate work is the prize. I somewhat doubt I would walk in doing it, even if I went to a specialized nonprofit. That said, I’m keeping my eyes on that goal, always.

I didn’t really know the full extent for civil defense. The few I know in that area usually refuse to talk shop-- now I know why.

[quote]thefederalist wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:
I just graduated from a Top 40 law school.
[/quote]

Top 40? c’mon now. At this point you’re making arbitrary distinctions about solid TTTerritory. This is like that guy who called Tufts a little Ivy.[/quote]

Actually, I rounded down, since my school is currently in the upper 30s. It is certainly the best school for hundreds of miles around my home, and alumni usually do quite well on average. Is it Ivy League? Of course not, but it’s a damn fine school. As for arbitrary numbers, “Top 40” is common-- see the Billboard Charts, for example. I suspect the difference between 30s and 50 is significant. Why group my school with schools ranked significantly below it just to have an even Top 50?

I’m curious about your forum name: are/were you a Federalist Society member? Do you approve of my picture choice?

Now throw your degree on the trash and start learning that it doesn’t have any value at all. It’s all about knowing how to sell your fish and that the college doesn’t teach you.

[quote]tmartinez wrote:
I just graduated from a Top 40 law school. Horray! Celebrate with me! Tell lawyer jokes!

Now… does anyone know of any jobs? Anyone want to hire a bodybuilding law graduate who’s taking the Colorado bar exam? Should I include my big three numbers on my resume?

Now, I think I’ll hit the gym. Everyone knows that I need big gunz to get hired…

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Congratulations man.

I graduated out of a top 5 university - apparently worldwide - but I generally call bullshit. Then I graduated from a top law school.

That was many years back and I’m still looking for a job, all with a £50k loan to pay back to various banks. Fuck my life.

Protip: Don’t be a lazy cunt - like me - after you leave. That’s when the real battle begins.

[quote]Magicpunch wrote:

[quote]tmartinez wrote:
I just graduated from a Top 40 law school. Horray! Celebrate with me! Tell lawyer jokes!

Now… does anyone know of any jobs? Anyone want to hire a bodybuilding law graduate who’s taking the Colorado bar exam? Should I include my big three numbers on my resume?

Now, I think I’ll hit the gym. Everyone knows that I need big gunz to get hired…

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Congratulations man.

I graduated out of a top 5 university - apparently worldwide - but I generally call bullshit. Then I graduated from a top law school.

That was many years back and I’m still looking for a job, all with a Ã?£50k loan to pay back to various banks. Fuck my life.

Protip: Don’t be a lazy cunt - like me - after you leave. That’s when the real battle begins.
[/quote]

Thanks. Juggling all I did in law school, I had to put something on the back burner. But once I start a project, I’m pretty tenacious about it until I get what I want. I’ll be sure though to watch out from getting comfortable in the post-school life before I get a job.

Congrats on graduating law school…That’s a great accomplishment.