[quote]csulli wrote:
Well here’s one more thread furthering my loss of faith in the fairer sex.[/quote]
If anything, it should make you lose faith in your fellow men.
Ooooh, she did not really mean it…
Ooooh, she was punished enough…
Ooooh, imma gonna take the high road, let some other dude get tricked by that bitch.
No.
Crush her.
Publicly.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Eating shit all the time because you dont want to dish it out is worse.
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You can stand up for yourself without having to resort to slinging shit. In the long run character begets character.[/quote]
Did he sling shit?
He stated facts and laid out the consequences.
Publicly.
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Well here’s one more thread furthering my loss of faith in the fairer sex.[/quote]
Actually all indications are that men cheat more than women. It just happens this site is largely male you are going to get mostly that point of view.[/quote]
Yes, but that is not the same.
Sorry.
Blatant hypocrisy, I know.
Except that it is not, never was, and if it ever had been it certainly would not be in this legal climate.
Anyhow, who cares?
No rings for sluts, no matter who you are.
If you are a player you know better, if not, dont do it.
Trust me.
[quote]orion wrote:
No rings for sluts, no matter who you are.
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Well, there’s something we definitely agree upon.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Also, the thing is the chick cheated IN PUBLIC. She was caught fucking around in public and even admitted to it WHILE she was engaged.
I’m sorry, but mercy in this case should not be on the table. Maybe if she had privately admitted it to him and asked his forgiveness.
Thing is…chicks that cheat…typically continue to cheat. It’s tough to remove the stripes from a tiger. Trust me, I know.[/quote]
SAMA is gone but why should that water down all you have to offer?
the syndrome is strong in this thread…
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Well here’s one more thread furthering my loss of faith in the fairer sex.[/quote]
Actually all indications are that men cheat more than women. It just happens this site is largely male you are going to get mostly that point of view.[/quote]
Not from what I’ve seen. The most recent studies seem to indicate an even split, and I think women actually may be more often the culprits as, to be quite honest, I think men are worse at not getting caught. But who knows really.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Well here’s one more thread furthering my loss of faith in the fairer sex.[/quote]
Actually all indications are that men cheat more than women. It just happens this site is largely male you are going to get mostly that point of view.[/quote]
Not from what I’ve seen. The most recent studies seem to indicate an even split, and I think women actually may be more often the culprits as, to be quite honest, I think men are worse at not getting caught. But who knows really.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell. The ‘studies’ (which are mainly just anonymous surveys) show women are catching up, but men are still slightly ahead.
The problem is these studies are prone to high selection bias.
As to who lies more about it and gets away more with it…who really knows at all.
Bah Marriage sucks anyway. Everyone lies. Most people will cheat if they have a good opportunity.
So you certainly can’t have a serious romantic relationship with this woman anymore so just tell her you’re ok with being non exclusive fuck buddies or whatever and make sure you divest yourself entirely from her financially…and emotionally as well but that is less important.
Also before you engage in another serious relationship do some meditation on the old saw “Ignorance is bliss”.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Also, the thing is the chick cheated IN PUBLIC. She was caught fucking around in public and even admitted to it WHILE she was engaged.
I’m sorry, but mercy in this case should not be on the table. Maybe if she had privately admitted it to him and asked his forgiveness.
Thing is…chicks that cheat…typically continue to cheat. It’s tough to remove the stripes from a tiger. Trust me, I know.[/quote]
Queue cliche - “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
To me it’s not about demonstrating mercy, but rather showing restraint and control of your own emotions even in the face of blind anger. To me it’s more about not giving into your darker side of vengeance.
Is she deserving of what she got? Absolutely, No question.
But I think it suffices perfectly just to dump her on her ass and never speak to her again.
Everyone would have found out she was a cheating whore anyways when they asked why he dumped her.
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Also, the thing is the chick cheated IN PUBLIC. She was caught fucking around in public and even admitted to it WHILE she was engaged.
I’m sorry, but mercy in this case should not be on the table. Maybe if she had privately admitted it to him and asked his forgiveness.
Thing is…chicks that cheat…typically continue to cheat. It’s tough to remove the stripes from a tiger. Trust me, I know.[/quote]
Queue cliche - “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
To me it’s not about demonstrating mercy, but rather showing restraint and control of your own emotions even in the face of blind anger. To me it’s more about not giving into your darker side of vengeance.
Is she deserving of what she got? Absolutely, No question.
But I think it suffices perfectly just to dump her on her ass and never speak to her again.
Everyone would have found out she was a cheating whore anyways when they asked why he dumped her.[/quote]
Dude the chick is a cheater, and lies. Why would you think she would be honest about why he broke up with her?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
I can look past most of what happens on that tape, but the laughter of the DJs bothers me.
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I say that the entire way it was handled was intentionally cruel on the DJ’s part.
Now the woman is certainly a liar. But I can see nothing but regret coming from the guy who broke up with her in public like that. I understand lashing out at people that hurt you, but intentionally setting her up to be so happy then crushing her wouldn’t bring me any joy.
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
It’s hard to tell. The ‘studies’ (which are mainly just anonymous surveys) show women are catching up, but men are still slightly ahead.
The problem is these studies are prone to high selection bias.
As to who lies more about it and gets away more with it…who really knows at all.
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Seriously. The other problem is that men are WAY more likely to admit to cheating than women would be. A lot of (stupid) men take their ability to juggle multiple women as a source of pride. A lot of women on the other hand would see their affair as a source of shame. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but the rule is strong enough to seriously skew any results. It’s likely both biological and societal but either way it definitely exists.
Interviewer/Anonymous Poll question: Have you ever cheated on a partner in a relationship that was previously defined as monogamous?
Cheating Male participant: [hell] Yes
Cheating Female participant: [uhhh] Nope
If we’re only considering heterosexual cheating in heterosexual couples, the numbers of male and female cheaters has to be close. It takes 1 male and 1 female. In theory taken men could be cheating with single women, but there would have to be a significant number of single women hooking up with multiple married partners to shift the results in a meaningful way.
For the OP (who I think has a high likelihood of just trolling), I think it’d be pretty easy to confront your fiancee with the GPS evidence and justifying it via .
Say a few weeks ago your friend pointed out her car at XYZ location.
Since she told you she was staying home, you drove by to confirm the friend’s evidence, not wanting to place your friend’s word over your fiancees.
You visually confirmed her car on the street following your friend’s report.
The next day (after you supposedly visually confirmed) you asked her how her night was, she replied she stayed home.
Since suspicion was beginning to build, you got the GPS tracker and put it in her car. Tell her its been making regular trips to this house the whole time you are gone.
She can’t say “not true”. There is of course the distinct possibility that she is over there not necessarily cheating but doing something that she does not want you to find out about.
Worst case: She’s using drugs and that’s her dealers house. It can be difficult to spot someone on pills in the early stages of their addiction.
Possible case: She needs money for something she doesn’t want you to know about. She could have racked up a big debt from gambling, drugs, or even just shopping on a credit card. She might not be able to make rent because she got into debt and is just trying to make ends meet until you guys get married. Then you get surprised with the info that she has a mountain of debt.
Although the odds of this would be virtually zero, it would be fucked if she was over there babysitting to make some extra cash in order to surprise you with a gift on your wedding day or on the honeymoon.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Also, the thing is the chick cheated IN PUBLIC. She was caught fucking around in public and even admitted to it WHILE she was engaged.
I’m sorry, but mercy in this case should not be on the table. Maybe if she had privately admitted it to him and asked his forgiveness.
Thing is…chicks that cheat…typically continue to cheat. It’s tough to remove the stripes from a tiger. Trust me, I know.[/quote]
Queue cliche - “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
To me it’s not about demonstrating mercy, but rather showing restraint and control of your own emotions even in the face of blind anger. To me it’s more about not giving into your darker side of vengeance.
Is she deserving of what she got? Absolutely, No question.
But I think it suffices perfectly just to dump her on her ass and never speak to her again.
Everyone would have found out she was a cheating whore anyways when they asked why he dumped her.[/quote]
Dude the chick is a cheater, and lies. Why would you think she would be honest about why he broke up with her? [/quote]
What I meant was when people ask him, not her.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Also, the thing is the chick cheated IN PUBLIC. She was caught fucking around in public and even admitted to it WHILE she was engaged.
I’m sorry, but mercy in this case should not be on the table. Maybe if she had privately admitted it to him and asked his forgiveness.
Thing is…chicks that cheat…typically continue to cheat. It’s tough to remove the stripes from a tiger. Trust me, I know.[/quote]
Queue cliche - “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind”
To me it’s not about demonstrating mercy, but rather showing restraint and control of your own emotions even in the face of blind anger. To me it’s more about not giving into your darker side of vengeance.
Is she deserving of what she got? Absolutely, No question.
But I think it suffices perfectly just to dump her on her ass and never speak to her again.
Everyone would have found out she was a cheating whore anyways when they asked why he dumped her.[/quote]
An eye for an eye here would’ve been him going out and cheating on her. Or beating her up. Or burning her house down. Or doing something to cause her to lose her job.
Being cheated on is one of the most devastating things that can happen to a person. I’m talking about a pre-nuptial or actual matrimonial situation. Run of the mill boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are not in the same ballpark but of course they do still hurt.
But I do hear you and I won’t insist I’m right on this guy’s course of action.
It’d be interesting to get a show of hands as to who has been cheated on and who hasn’t and how that affects your outlook on this phone call deal.[/quote]
I have been cheated on in a non-exclusive relationship, so I don’t think that can really be considered cheating. So that was just a minor ego bruise.
Then I had a GF who I was fairly certain was cheating on me, but never bothered to figure out. I didn’t really need any evidence of that to break up with her, the suspicion was just the final needle in the haystack of a relationship that wasn’t going anywhere to begin with.
But like you said, those are just run of the mill pre-marital, pre-engagment relationships. I can imagine how horrible it is when there is a house, ring, kids, hopes, dreams etc… involved.
I still think I would have handled his situation differently, I mean he wasn’t engaged yet, and even engagements are relatively easy to break off. My best buddy has dealt with that twice now(same girl).
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
It’s hard to tell. The ‘studies’ (which are mainly just anonymous surveys) show women are catching up, but men are still slightly ahead.
The problem is these studies are prone to high selection bias.
As to who lies more about it and gets away more with it…who really knows at all.
[/quote]
Seriously. The other problem is that men are WAY more likely to admit to cheating than women would be. A lot of (stupid) men take their ability to juggle multiple women as a source of pride. A lot of women on the other hand would see their affair as a source of shame. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but the rule is strong enough to seriously skew any results. It’s likely both biological and societal but either way it definitely exists.
Interviewer/Anonymous Poll question: Have you ever cheated on a partner in a relationship that was previously defined as monogamous?
Cheating Male participant: [hell] Yes
Cheating Female participant: [uhhh] Nope
If we’re only considering heterosexual cheating in heterosexual couples, the numbers of male and female cheaters has to be close. It takes 1 male and 1 female. In theory taken men could be cheating with single women, but there would have to be a significant number of single women hooking up with multiple married partners to shift the results in a meaningful way.[/quote]
I see the point here, but I would also believe there is a much higher prevalence of men seeing prostitutes outside of a relationship, which may be of explanation for the 1:1 ratio.
lies damn lies and statistics.
Probably impossible to know the real truth (and I agree i think the two are probably closer that admitted to anonymously). It’s interesting to me how people shape reality through their own experiences with relatively small sample sizes though. Men who have been cheated on sometimes develop this defense that all women are worthless sluts and women who have been cheated on sometimes develop this defense that all men are cheating pigs.