[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Delete the records a after a year or two and I have absolutely no problem with this.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s certain to happen.
There are a lot of people who don’t seem in any way worried about the prospect of the government nosing ever further into our private affairs. This personally scares the shit out of me. But your complaisance in the face of a clearly encroaching Big Brother scares me a hell of a lot more.
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?[/quote]
Ignore history much?
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont.
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?[/quote]
The Boston Bomber was caught because some random guy happened to walk into his back yard. CCTV didn’t catch anything. As a matter of fact CCTV helped splash some kids face all over the news that wasn’t even involved.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
Thank God you finally showed up. I was beginning to feel like some kind of street preacher.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek!
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek![/quote]
Lol, yea my brother from Big D.
I try to stay balanced in this regard, we need protection, that is why we have Police, they need the tools to catch people. Where is that line? That is always a moving target.
We need our privacy and if my rights were ever fringed upon I would very much think different. I have a close friend who had those rights crushed, I even started a thread about it a few years ago.
But right now, I still have this “belief” that I live in an area of the country that still takes pride in independence. That still keeps things in balance and when that changes maybe I will have more strong beliefs.
Cortes how are things in Japan? I always thought you kind of lived in a fishbowl.
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?[/quote]
No, not paranoid.
When police are conducting surveillance, are they looking for innocent people or criminals?
They’re looking for criminals. But you are on that surveillance record. Why? Are you a criminal?
We’re conducting surveillance on criminals and there you are! Now prove that you aren’t.
Turned the presumption of innocence upside down in 3 easy steps.
If you don’t believe that this can happen you need to take a look at that vid series that was circulating for a while on why no one should ever talk to the police.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek![/quote]
Lol, yea my brother from Big D.
I try to stay balanced in this regard, we need protection, that is why we have Police, they need the tools to catch people. Where is that line? That is always a moving target.
We need our privacy and if my rights were ever fringed upon I would very much think different. I have a close friend who had those rights crushed, I even started a thread about it a few years ago.
But right now, I still have this “belief” that I live in an area of the country that still takes pride in independence. That still keeps things in balance and when that changes maybe I will have more strong beliefs.
Cortes how are things in Japan? I always thought you kind of lived in a fishbowl.[/quote]
Hey Derek (^_^)
The thing is, the people we would give those rights to, in exchange for a little so-called security, are not somehow exempted from evil due to location. Texas is one of the last holdouts of the virtues of our founding fathers (and even Texas has fallen VERY far from those original ideals) exactly BECAUSE we have traditionally resisted such encroachments onto our personal freedom and privacy. Every step away from those values is a step toward totalitarianism, and that IS the natural way of things. We happen to be the exception, not by any means the rule, and I want our great state to stay that way for as long as we are able to. Inviting this kind of Statism is no way to do that. No way at all.
Japan is actually far worse, only the culture itself holds such evil in check…for now. This country, however, like nearly every other country in the history of human society, has a very BAD track record regarding the preservation of individual rights and freedoms.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?[/quote]
No, not paranoid.
When police are conducting surveillance, are they looking for innocent people or criminals?
They’re looking for criminals. But you are on that surveillance record. Why? Are you a criminal?
We’re conducting surveillance on criminals and there you are! Now prove that you aren’t.
Turned the presumption of innocence upside down in 3 easy steps.
If you don’t believe that this can happen you need to take a look at that vid series that was circulating for a while on why no one should ever talk to the police.
[/quote]
Excellent post. Thank you.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek![/quote]
Lol, yea my brother from Big D.
I try to stay balanced in this regard, we need protection, that is why we have Police, they need the tools to catch people. Where is that line? That is always a moving target.
We need our privacy and if my rights were ever fringed upon I would very much think different. I have a close friend who had those rights crushed, I even started a thread about it a few years ago.
But right now, I still have this “belief” that I live in an area of the country that still takes pride in independence. That still keeps things in balance and when that changes maybe I will have more strong beliefs.
Cortes how are things in Japan? I always thought you kind of lived in a fishbowl.[/quote]
Hey Derek (^_^)
The thing is, the people we would give those rights to, in exchange for a little so-called security, are not somehow exempted from evil due to location. Texas is one of the last holdouts of the virtues of our founding fathers (and even Texas has fallen VERY far from those original ideals) exactly BECAUSE we have traditionally resisted such encroachments onto our personal freedom and privacy. Every step away from those values is a step toward totalitarianism, and that IS the natural way of things. We happen to be the exception, not by any means the rule, and I want our great state to stay that way for as long as we are able to. Inviting this kind of Statism is no way to do that. No way at all.
Japan is actually far worse, only the culture itself holds such evil in check…for now. This country, however, like nearly every other country in the history of human society, has a very BAD track record regarding the preservation of individual rights and freedoms. [/quote]
I agree and I am not apathetic I just worry about becoming a paranoid fucker and next I will be moving in with Push and that will not be good 
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek![/quote]
Lol, yea my brother from Big D.
I try to stay balanced in this regard, we need protection, that is why we have Police, they need the tools to catch people. Where is that line? That is always a moving target.
We need our privacy and if my rights were ever fringed upon I would very much think different. I have a close friend who had those rights crushed, I even started a thread about it a few years ago.
But right now, I still have this “belief” that I live in an area of the country that still takes pride in independence. That still keeps things in balance and when that changes maybe I will have more strong beliefs.
Cortes how are things in Japan? I always thought you kind of lived in a fishbowl.[/quote]
Hey Derek (^_^)
The thing is, the people we would give those rights to, in exchange for a little so-called security, are not somehow exempted from evil due to location. Texas is one of the last holdouts of the virtues of our founding fathers (and even Texas has fallen VERY far from those original ideals) exactly BECAUSE we have traditionally resisted such encroachments onto our personal freedom and privacy. Every step away from those values is a step toward totalitarianism, and that IS the natural way of things. We happen to be the exception, not by any means the rule, and I want our great state to stay that way for as long as we are able to. Inviting this kind of Statism is no way to do that. No way at all.
Japan is actually far worse, only the culture itself holds such evil in check…for now. This country, however, like nearly every other country in the history of human society, has a very BAD track record regarding the preservation of individual rights and freedoms. [/quote]
I agree and I am not apathetic I just worry about becoming a paranoid fucker and next I will be moving in with Push and that will not be good [/quote]
It probably would not be not good to move in with Push, but that’s another topic for another thread.
I believe it is always better to be a little too paranoid, than not enough.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty sure that is completely legal. There is no expectation of privacy while you’re driving around on public roads.[/quote]
Are you comfortable with it? [/quote]
Good question.
Me personally. Yes. I have nothing to fear. Now if my car got stolen this increases the chances I can get it back. [/quote]
Yeah…
There are a few million Jews, Armenians and Ukrainians who would beg to differ…
Ah, no, they dont. [/quote]
I am sure they would. However I dont live in the North East were big Govt is more into people’s lives. Texas is a little different, I know I keep saying that, but unless you live here you just would not understand.[/quote]
And we’d like to keep it that way, thank you very much, Derek![/quote]
Lol, yea my brother from Big D.
I try to stay balanced in this regard, we need protection, that is why we have Police, they need the tools to catch people. Where is that line? That is always a moving target.
We need our privacy and if my rights were ever fringed upon I would very much think different. I have a close friend who had those rights crushed, I even started a thread about it a few years ago.
But right now, I still have this “belief” that I live in an area of the country that still takes pride in independence. That still keeps things in balance and when that changes maybe I will have more strong beliefs.
Cortes how are things in Japan? I always thought you kind of lived in a fishbowl.[/quote]
Hey Derek (^_^)
The thing is, the people we would give those rights to, in exchange for a little so-called security, are not somehow exempted from evil due to location. Texas is one of the last holdouts of the virtues of our founding fathers (and even Texas has fallen VERY far from those original ideals) exactly BECAUSE we have traditionally resisted such encroachments onto our personal freedom and privacy. Every step away from those values is a step toward totalitarianism, and that IS the natural way of things. We happen to be the exception, not by any means the rule, and I want our great state to stay that way for as long as we are able to. Inviting this kind of Statism is no way to do that. No way at all.
Japan is actually far worse, only the culture itself holds such evil in check…for now. This country, however, like nearly every other country in the history of human society, has a very BAD track record regarding the preservation of individual rights and freedoms. [/quote]
I agree and I am not apathetic I just worry about becoming a paranoid fucker and next I will be moving in with Push and that will not be good [/quote]
It probably would not be not good to move in with Push, but that’s another topic for another thread.
I believe it is always better to be a little too paranoid, than not enough.
[/quote]
Being aware and making good choices on your national and local voting is important.
But lets face it, nothing lasts forever.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Paranoid much?
Ask James Bulgers parents what they think of CCTV. Ask the vicitims of the Boston Bombing…CCTV nabbed that fuckers arse real quick.
How do you expect Police and Security forces to function if you don’t give them the tools to do their job?[/quote]
The Boston Bomber was caught because some random guy happened to walk into his back yard. CCTV didn’t catch anything. As a matter of fact CCTV helped splash some kids face all over the news that wasn’t even involved.
Wrong.
The false identifications were being made by internet idiots with no training. Police had nothing to do with that.
CCTV allowed police to quickly put up images of these guys, thatt got them on the run to begin with.
Furthermore, guys get over it, you do not live in a Fascist dictatorship. Hate to break it to you, but there you go. Just because you are on CCTV footage does not mean the cops think you are guilty and must prove your innocence. Do you honestly think they are that stupid? Give them some credit for Christs sake!
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Being aware and making good choices on your national and local voting is important.
But lets face it, nothing lasts forever. [/quote]
Bite you tongue!
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!
(^=^)/"
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Being aware and making good choices on your national and local voting is important.
But lets face it, nothing lasts forever. [/quote]
Bite you tongue!
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!
(^=^)/"[/quote]
lol, Europe will go before America