im sure everything will be ok lol
How old are you BTW? Just curious.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
How old are you BTW? Just curious. [/quote]
Old enough to know what im talking about 
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Rippemanewone wrote:
im sure everything will be ok lol
Funny. That’s what I thought, right up until I got a 2 year suspended prison sentence and a bill from the police for over a million dollars.
BBB[/quote]
Well that blows cock and balls lol, but i have no steroids on me, so how am i gonna get nailed? lol
Look - I don’t mean to be a dick (it’s just my nature)
Strictly speaking, you are correct - mere possession alone is not, in and of itself illegal.
The chances of getting caught are pretty small, I do tren conversions all the time, but don’t kid yourself that you can somehow manage to weasel out of it because of your knowledge of the finer points of the law. The jails are full of people who thought they knew the finer points of the law.
From the comments it sounds as if you don’t know how the criminal justice system ACTUALLY works - unfortunately, I know all to well.
If the police take the trouble to follow the path to your door, they will come with a warrant. They will take whatever they find, including any solvents, glassware, syringes or other ‘drug paraphenalia’, as well as any other steroids or AIs they find. They will take your computer. They will search your computer and find this post as well as all the other sites you visited to get your vast knowledge of everything there is to know about tren.
A good chance they will announce to the media the “break-up of a large steroid manufacturing & distribution ring”. ( They may release the photo you use as your avatar to the media.) You will probably lose your job.
They may let you plead down to a lesser charge with fine and probation. They may decide to charge you with manufacturing, with intent to distribute. In any case, you will spending many thousands of dollars on an attorney.
Like I said, chances of any of this happening are pretty slim, and I have quite a few raw pellets in my fridge right now…but I’m glad we got to bat this around a little bit, because reading my own words has made me realize how complacent I have become and how much I need to “tighten up security” a little bit in case the unthinkable happens.
Good luck
[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
How old are you BTW? Just curious.
Old enough to know what im talking about ;)[/quote]
This isn’t match.com
Settle down spaz
lol 
And who said im gonna use fina to make tren? Im using them for my cows :D.
[quote]testolius wrote:
Like I said, chances of any of this happening are pretty slim, and I have quite a few raw pellets in my fridge right now…but I’m glad we got to bat this around a little bit, because reading my own words has made me realize how complacent I have become and how much I need to “tighten up security” a little bit in case the unthinkable happens.
Good luck[/quote]
Everyone who has been popped has talked too much. It’s not like LE is so eager to bust steroid users that they will start tracing implant purchases. Shit falls in their lap.
That was the entire cause behind ORD - people talked too much, and thought they were bullet proof. We still aren’t through with the fallout from those stupid fucking idiots who thought they were bullet proof.
Anyhow, unless you are making shit and selling it, and telling people you are selling it - the odds of you getting busted for manufacture and intent to distribute a controlled substance is almost nill.
The good thing about ORD is that it stopped a shit ton of loose talk, and even boards like this one are becoming extremely unforgiving about mentioning sources. It has also sent a wake up call to personal homebrewers to be more careful.
The bad thing about ORD is that it has created a subculture of paranoid schizo’s. Not saying you are one of them, but if you have spent anytime in vet forums you know the utter panic that has been going on since October 2007.
Some degree of panic is understood, but if you keep your mouth shut and don’t get greedy - a home brewer who is converting pellets has very little to worry about once they get the pellets delivered.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Everyone who has been popped has talked too much. It’s not like LE is so eager to bust steroid users that they will start tracing implant purchases. Shit falls in their lap.
That was the entire cause behind ORD - people talked too much, and thought they were bullet proof. We still aren’t through with the fallout from those stupid fucking idiots who thought they were bullet proof.
Anyhow, unless you are making shit and selling it, and telling people you are selling it - the odds of you getting busted for manufacture and intent to distribute a controlled substance is almost nill.
The good thing about ORD is that it stopped a shit ton of loose talk, and even boards like this one are becoming extremely unforgiving about mentioning sources. It has also sent a wake up call to personal homebrewers to be more careful.
The bad thing about ORD is that it has created a subculture of paranoid schizo’s. Not saying you are one of them, but if you have spent anytime in vet forums you know the utter panic that has been going on since October 2007.
Some degree of panic is understood, but if you keep your mouth shut and don’t get greedy - a home brewer who is converting pellets has very little to worry about once they get the pellets delivered.
[/quote]
I understand the risks are small, I just worry, for example, that some politician’s kid will kill himself, they will look on his computer and find directions for converting cow pellets, aforementioned politician will go on a crusade, LE will access customer lists from biggest online veterinary suppliers and some poor fuck will be made an example of. I don’t want that poor fuck to be me.
I used to make homemade M-80’s and other fireworks. I would order the chemical components online (it was not illegal to order or have these chemical components, just illegal to assemble them into fireworks). After 9-11 I got a sternly worded letter from the FBI that informed me that my name was on a list of customers, and that my name was NOT on a list of people with federal high explosive permits, and then detailed the code subsection and penalties for the relavent laws. Needless to say, my days of making M-80s came to an abrupt halt. You might say they ended with a bang! as I liquidated the rest of my supplies. Today, I am glad I am not languishing in Guantanemo.
Once again, chances of trouble are small, but I have worked too long and hard for what I’ve got, and at 52 don’t have time to get it all back if I lose it.
[quote]testolius wrote:
I understand the risks are small, I just worry, for example, that some politician’s kid will kill himself, they will look on his computer and find directions for converting cow pellets, aforementioned politician will go on a crusade, LE will access customer lists from biggest online veterinary suppliers and some poor fuck will be made an example of. I don’t want that poor fuck to be me.[/quote]
Like I said - that could only happen if you talked too much. The Fed is going to have to rewrite the first amendment, or change FDA rules for writing about steroids to be illegal.
Even in this era of anabolic witch hunts, that is going to take far more than a dead son.
[quote]I used to make homemade M-80’s and other fireworks. I would order the chemical components online (it was not illegal to order or have these chemical components, just illegal to assemble them into fireworks).
After 9-11 I got a sternly worded letter from the FBI that informed me that my name was on a list of customers, and that my name was NOT on a list of people with federal high explosive permits, and then detailed the code subsection and penalties for the relavent laws.
Needless to say, my days of making M-80s came to an abrupt halt. You might say they ended with a bang! as I liquidated the rest of my supplies. Today, I am glad I am not languishing in Guantanemo.[/quote]
And if they had the time, or the proof - you would be in jail right now. Same thing with converting pellets. The ONLY way they can make a case against you is if you talk too much.
That’s a matter of risk tolerance. It’s different for everyone. You won’t catch me trying to buy steroids from a UG. You won’t catch me trying to buy powders from China, or Europe, or Iran, or India. The odds of getting popped on a steroid buy from China is astronomical compared to buying pellets from the farm store.
I think homebrew is the safest way to swim in this end of the pool. How safe is that? I guess no one really knows the answer to that question.
[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
How old are you BTW? Just curious.
Old enough to know what im talking about ;)[/quote]
OK man I’ve been trying to help and been one of the people that I guess has given you some good advice but you are acting like a f*ckin cunt.
Both BBB and Bonez are very respected members of this forum and your smart ass remarcks will get you ZERO help both now and in the future.
Take what those two gentleman have to say with respect and think about it because they have been around the block a few times and know wtf they are talking about.
You DO need to post your age because you are acting like a 16yr old with all your smart ass remarks… and 16yr olds don’t need to be messing with Fina or any AAS for that matter.
I think that an apology is in order from you if you wish to continue to post on this forum.
My HONEST opinion so don’t turn that into some pissing match.
DG
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I think homebrew is the safest way to swim in this end of the pool. How safe is that? I guess no one really knows the answer to that question.
[/quote]
I think we have found the common ground
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Rippemanewone wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
How old are you BTW? Just curious.
Old enough to know what im talking about
OK man I’ve been trying to help and been one of the people that I guess has given you some good advice but you are acting like a f*ckin cunt.
Both BBB and Bonez are very respected members of this forum and your smart ass remarcks will get you ZERO help both now and in the future.
Take what those two gentleman have to say with respect and think about it because they have been around the block a few times and know wtf they are talking about.
You DO need to post your age because you are acting like a 16yr old with all your smart ass remarks… and 16yr olds don’t need to be messing with Fina or any AAS for that matter.
I think that an apology is in order from you if you wish to continue to post on this forum.
My HONEST opinion so don’t turn that into some pissing match.
DG[/quote]
Yo bro chill, i wasnt dogging them, i was kidding around with them. I know they definatley know what they are talking about and never said they didnt. I am 20 btw just to let everyone know.
Sorry guys.
Also even it u aren’t charged the cops still end up confiscating your stash.
Sometimes if cops can’t get a legit search warrent or probable cause they still go ahead and make the bust.Everything goes into evidence but they end up droping the charges down the road.No judge is going to award u the gear back to u and there is a fairly good chance you’re not going to spend a shitload on a lawyer to challange the whole situition.
This would be best case scenario next them not bothering u at all.
To me I would just purchase the fina from an underground lab and let them take care of the issues.
Peace
[quote]Chris Eales wrote:
To me I would just purchase the fina from an underground lab and let them take care of the issues.
Peace[/quote]
Eh??
How is getting caught with tren from a lab any different than getting caught with converted tren made in your house??
Your right getting caught in your house with it is exactly the same but when u order from legit distributor of Fina the paper trail is much easier to access.
I can’t see an underground lab alerting the authorities that u purchased something from them where as a legit company has nothing to gain from selling it illegally or for a use that it wasn’t intended for.They already have legit clientle.
When u order from an underground lab u both have the same interests in common.
just me 2 cents
[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
Rippemanewone wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
How old are you BTW? Just curious.
Old enough to know what im talking about
OK man I’ve been trying to help and been one of the people that I guess has given you some good advice but you are acting like a f*ckin cunt.
Both BBB and Bonez are very respected members of this forum and your smart ass remarcks will get you ZERO help both now and in the future.
Take what those two gentleman have to say with respect and think about it because they have been around the block a few times and know wtf they are talking about.
You DO need to post your age because you are acting like a 16yr old with all your smart ass remarks… and 16yr olds don’t need to be messing with Fina or any AAS for that matter.
I think that an apology is in order from you if you wish to continue to post on this forum.
My HONEST opinion so don’t turn that into some pissing match.
DG
Yo bro chill, i wasnt dogging them, i was kidding around with them. I know they definatley know what they are talking about and never said they didnt. I am 20 btw just to let everyone know.
Sorry guys.[/quote]
all good dood, next time either get to know people first or get a better sense of humor. It looked like you were just being a smartass and that wouldn’t get you anywhere 
lol
Either way all good now.
Some still think 20 is too young but since I used at 20, a few months shy of 21, I can’t say much. I do still hold true that people should have built up a decent physique before touching the sauce, but either way it’s going to be your call and you will do what you do anyways.
DG
[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
I know about almost everything there is to fucking know about Finaplix/Trenbolone Acetate. Ive read almost everything on it, from websites to books. The fucking chemical compound.[/quote]
Good for you.
Now go eat and train and come back in 7-10 years. Hopefully you’ll have made good progress and also gained some maturity by then.