Got 700 On The Radar, Don't Give a F#*% About A Hater

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[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:
SH: You’re right I’m defending the accused. That’s what I do. I don’t think she’s lying though. And I think that even though I also think her bench video on page 1 of her log is not technically a “good” lift. Figure that one out.

And you, you’re the form police on PW. Proud of that? Your presence in this log is toxic. I’m sticking around because this is Nikki’s log. You post what you want to anywhere else. But I’m pissing here.

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I’m not the form police. I told her she was full of shit and claiming bullshit lifts as legit after she went after Bear about how superior she was. Go back and re-read the thread.

If you want to talk about toxic, please remember who is bullshitting everyone and then insulting people who really are legit and who is openly defending that sort of behavior.

If by “toxic”, you mean “not playing along with the PW circlejerk”, then guilty as charged.

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One more thing SH, Nikki shouldn’t have to fight her own battles. This is a community. From my perspective, Nikki is a long-time positive contributer to this forum. I don’t know you. But, I’ve seen your balls. You’re not a PW.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Oh just fucking suck it up already. You accused Nikki of lying and you were WRONG. You now look incredibly stupid and won’t admit it.

There’s really nothing else to say.[/quote]

No, I wasn’t.

I’ve attached screencaps from the bottom of two of her bench videos. Check out her upper arm angle in relation to the bench. Also notice the distance between the collars and her elbow.

Nikki claimed she touched her chest because she has boobs and they made up for the very apparent discrepancies in the video, but shes touching below, nearer to the zyphoid process.

Get the fuck over yourself, Deb. Let Nikki fight her own battle.[/quote]

Dude, Nikki fucking left, there is no battle. She doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you.

AND are you serious? Why the hell are you even here except for the fact that your girlfriend and her pal started this? Jesus Christ. Don’t worry I’m done arguing with you. But lololol at fighting one’s own battles indeed. Could you be more oblivious to your own fucking rescue mission? You of all fucking people dude. Come ON. wow. Unbelievably delusional.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Oh just fucking suck it up already. You accused Nikki of lying and you were WRONG. You now look incredibly stupid and won’t admit it.

There’s really nothing else to say.[/quote]

No, I wasn’t.

I’ve attached screencaps from the bottom of two of her bench videos. Check out her upper arm angle in relation to the bench. Also notice the distance between the collars and her elbow.

Nikki claimed she touched her chest because she has boobs and they made up for the very apparent discrepancies in the video, but shes touching below, nearer to the zyphoid process.

Get the fuck over yourself, Deb. Let Nikki fight her own battle.[/quote]

Dude, Nikki fucking left, there is no battle. She doesn’t give a rat’s ass about you.

AND are you serious? Why the hell are you even here except for the fact that your girlfriend and her pal started this? Jesus Christ. Don’t worry I’m done arguing with you. But lololol at fighting one’s own battles indeed. Could you be more oblivious to your own fucking rescue mission? You of all fucking people dude. Come ON. wow. Unbelievably delusional.

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I’m not allowed to call bullshit when I see it? There’s no fucking rescue mission here. As a matter of fact, I think Bear is being nice about this than me. I don’t care if I hurt feeling or step on toes. Bullshit is bullshit is bullshit.

And Nikki hasn’t left. She’s pulled every page out of the attention whore handbook on this one. Someone who’s actually leaving doesn’t announce it 6 times so they can keep getting sympathetic affirmation that people love them.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
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yeah and I’m contributing to it, sorry.

I’ve said all I’m going to say about it. :expressionless:

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
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yeah and I’m contributing to it, sorry.

I’ve said all I’m going to say about it. :|[/quote]

hahaha It wasnt aimed at you Deb.

This whole thing has gotten way out of hand. this is someones log and like I said earlier, I thought the logs were a drama/shit talker free zone?

If you dont like someones log then dont read it (or dont comment on it)

This has gone way off the deep end and neither side is going to admit any wrong doing.

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Nikki will survive this train wreck like Bruce Willis in Unbreakable

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Nikki, feel free to post a log in our trash-heap section of the log forum :slight_smile:

SH- Your comment about fighting your own battles is ludicrous, as you’re essentially white-knighting for your Gf and friend in this log. That’s all I’m going to say on the matter though, as I try to avoid spreading negativity and especially want to keep it out of the BOI. If you want to reply to this, PM me or put it in my log.

I’m just going to throw this out there- if someone goes from benching 105 3" off their chest (and I’m not saying she did), to benching 165 3" off their chest, is that not a significant improvement? Nikki has already pretty much said she doesn’t care about her legit PL total.

Goddamn people. I pretty much only go to the BOI, training logs, PW, and rarely the BB forum because I try to avoid all the drama. That I have to read it in a log as well is bullshit.

Nikki-I hope you stay. Please don’t be driven away. A lot of us like reading your workouts and your input too.

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[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

Nikki-I hope you stay. Please don’t be driven away. A lot of us like reading your workouts and your input too.[/quote]

x2 You have so much enthusiasm for your training. Don’t let this kill your joy, or make you leave Tnation. Keep goin’ little mama.

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Bear, BG, and I agree, but I’m not in here fighting battles for them. I just called bullshit because Nikki and her circlejerk had reached an irritatingly feverish climax. You’re in here defending Nikki and begging her to stay, what’s that say about you?

And if she said she was still benching to 3" off of her chest, I wouldn’t have a problem with it, but she specifically said she was touching when the only thing that changed was the angle she took videos from.

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I’m very pro accountability/callouts/criticism as well as tight legit form on lifts (as much as possible), but I think you should treat someone’s log like their room or house, with some additional respect compared to when they’re ‘outside’.

If you want to bust someone’s chops over form or whatever and there’s nowhere to interact outside their log it should be done through PMs imo and not with subtle or not so subtle remarks in a person’s log. There’s obviously alot of negative emotion where there shouldn’t be connected to the “constructive criticism” if it turned into this clusterfuck I’m reading.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Let Nikki fight her own battle.[/quote]

Nikki shouldn’t be left to defend herself against your attack. The powerful women compound is kinda like that, we try and look out for each others backs. You are a visitor here, and you are clearly unwelcome.

I think most of us do appreciate constructive criticism. To the best of my knowledge constructive criticism is constructive, however. It aims to build someone up, to help them improve without trying to tear them down. Calling someone a liar isn’t constructive.

You might have some theory about how you need to kick someone down into the mud in order to make them see the light…

But that isn’t the way things are done in here.

At least I didn’t think that was the way things were done in here…

Go be a bully somewhere else.

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So… damn. I didn’t know this kind of shit went down in PW, but to be honest, it is T-Nation at its finest. God I love the internet.

yeah, I know I didn’t contribute shit to this thread. :slight_smile:

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I don’t actually know how the compound works but I thought that at least part of the idea was for it to be a bit safer from attack and criticism than other parts of the site. A bit of extra moderation or something.

I think that Nikki deserves a place to log that is free from attack and criticism. That while constructive criticism is generally welcomed constructive criticism needs to be constructive and people should back the fuck off when asked.

I’d be really angry if Nikki chose not to log here because of people calling her a liar and crapping all over her training.

While I know that I’m not likely to get such a response given the numbers I’m putting up I’d rethink logging here if it were deemed acceptable to call someone a liar and crap all over their training.

Hell, I put off logging here for so long largely because of the response I got here:

not troll :frowning:

some of the responses were helpful. others… i really did think that this site was not for me. took a while before i got the courage to come back.

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[quote]CBear84 wrote:

There’s a post of mine on page 7 of this log that you may have missed, bc it took more than half a day to show up. It’s really long and I don’t want to retype or summarize it.

the video is aimed at me. ME. I sucked at lifts, and didn’t know it until i posted video. if you look at the dates, those lifts of mine are from 2+ years ago. Since then, I’ve gotten help, and that’s why I’ve accomplished so much.

I think you wouldn’t be angry if you’d read the rest of my posts. you’re taking the video entirely out of context… im pointing out how awful I was, that i got help, and now i’m less awful. thats. all. [/quote]

Then why post it here?

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I’m disappointed.

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[quote]ironcross wrote:

[quote]CBear84 wrote:

There’s a post of mine on page 7 of this log that you may have missed, bc it took more than half a day to show up. It’s really long and I don’t want to retype or summarize it.

the video is aimed at me. ME. I sucked at lifts, and didn’t know it until i posted video. if you look at the dates, those lifts of mine are from 2+ years ago. Since then, I’ve gotten help, and that’s why I’ve accomplished so much.

I think you wouldn’t be angry if you’d read the rest of my posts. you’re taking the video entirely out of context… im pointing out how awful I was, that i got help, and now i’m less awful. thats. all. [/quote]

Then why post it here? [/quote]

I’ve already explained it, and told you that it’s on page 7. If you don’t want to go read it I’m not going to retype it.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
RE: Constructive criticism.

IMO, the MEANEST thing you can do for someone who wants to get better is blow smoke up their ass and not tell them where and why they suck.

Every serious (non-commercial gym) training environment that I’ve ever been a part of has been like that. You better have thick skin and open ears, or you’re not going to get better and people are going to stop wasting their time trying to help you.

I ride Buckeye hard in the gym because I want her to get better. She gets pissed sometimes when I tell her to change something, but she gets better, and she knows I’m not doing it to be mean. Bear will tell you that Jason does the same to her.

Go check out the BOI subforum sometime. Generally speaking, the guys in there don’t mince words (I know I don’t) if someone is sucking it up or half assing something. For a group comprised almost entirely of 19-25 year old dudes with high testosterone and everything that comes with that, you rarely, if ever, see anyone taking criticism personally. I made a post a while back telling another guy that he was being a goddamned retard, and he thanked me. If you want to get better, you listen to outside views. If you want to pretend you’re already better than everyone, you stick with your own little personal groupthink and don’t.[/quote]

I’m going to agree with this; particularly the first part about blowing smoke. We have a lifter who was never treated very seriously and would be told in the warm up room that his squats were good only to bomb. My guy took it upon himself to let the other guy know he was high and what he should do to fix it.

I get pissed off and annoyed as crap when BB picks apart my form and doesn’t tell me I’m god’s gift to powerlifting. .[/quote]

Too bad it’s not what is going on here.

Unless you consider lame hints in another thread that Nikki isn’t even reading about fake numbers and accusations of lying constructive criticism.
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Maybe not. I don’t know. I skimmed a lot of it because it was too many words. However, this point about blowing smoke jumped out and struck a note with me because it’s something we’ve discussed recently. I’m also unreasonably thin skinned and take things the wrong way quite frequently and have learned to toughen up at least a bit in regards to my lifting.