[quote]ironcross wrote:
Cbear- I completely resent your assertion that any vagina would fly off the handle to a comment such as your’s. I like vaginas and preferr to give them more credit than that 
Feel free to critic the shit out of my log and call me out if I flip.[/quote]
no wai, u has a log?
So, this strapon thing isn’t going to happen?
You’re awfully keen on this strap-on business. Tell you what, send me a plane ticket and I’ll come use it on you.
What’s your schedule look like?
what the hell is going on in here? lol
I kinda always thought the logs (training logs and powerful women) sections were drama free? I always thought it was kind of an unwritten rule/common courtesy type of a deal? I guess not.
[quote]gregron wrote:
what the hell is going on in here? lol
I kinda always thought the logs (training logs and powerful women) sections were drama free? I always thought it was kind of an unwritten rule/common courtesy type of a deal? I guess not.[/quote]
My posts won’t work so I’m trying to come in as a quote.
I keep waiting for that idiot who started the Manlet thread to come over here and call you a chicklet!
You picked 305 pounds up off the floor! How many 5 foot tall women can say that?
Constructive criticism is overrated. It rarely works in real life. Will never get you laid. And is almost always TOXIC on the internet.
Can’t we all just get along?
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Constructive criticism is overrated. It rarely works in real life. Will never get you laid. And is almost always TOXIC on the internet. [/quote]
SCRUBS! One of my ALL TIME favorite shows.
Now get over here, because it’s time for a group hug.
And Stronghold, FTR, I don’t believe in bastard coated bastards. People tend to be nice. Sometimes you have to dig a little deeper, but the nice is usually in there.
LWI
Bastard coated bastards…LOVE THAT!!
I say we just keep posting here…
I can use this as my new log and pretend I’m Nikki 
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Constructive criticism is overrated. It rarely works in real life. Will never get you laid. And is almost always TOXIC on the internet. [/quote]
I’m gonna have to disagree with you here Puffy dearest. Stronghold coaches me (points out all of my errors in the gym) and I still bang him. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Constructive criticism is overrated. It rarely works in real life. Will never get you laid. And is almost always TOXIC on the internet. [/quote]
I’m gonna have to disagree with you here Puffy dearest. Stronghold coaches me (points out all of my errors in the gym) and I still bang him. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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Well, some people are into some weird S&M type of stuff. No judgement.
That goes for this strange strap-on contraption, too. I don’t understand it, but if it works for the count, then I’m OK with that. 
Seriously, this only works if there’s a basis of mutual respect, and you know the person has an honest desire to help, coach or mentor. Even then, it’s risky.
RE: Constructive criticism.
IMO, the MEANEST thing you can do for someone who wants to get better is blow smoke up their ass and not tell them where and why they suck.
Every serious (non-commercial gym) training environment that I’ve ever been a part of has been like that. You better have thick skin and open ears, or you’re not going to get better and people are going to stop wasting their time trying to help you.
I ride Buckeye hard in the gym because I want her to get better. She gets pissed sometimes when I tell her to change something, but she gets better, and she knows I’m not doing it to be mean. Bear will tell you that Jason does the same to her.
Go check out the BOI subforum sometime. Generally speaking, the guys in there don’t mince words (I know I don’t) if someone is sucking it up or half assing something. For a group comprised almost entirely of 19-25 year old dudes with high testosterone and everything that comes with that, you rarely, if ever, see anyone taking criticism personally. I made a post a while back telling another guy that he was being a goddamned retard, and he thanked me. If you want to get better, you listen to outside views. If you want to pretend you’re already better than everyone, you stick with your own little personal groupthink and don’t.
[quote]CBear84 wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Cbear- I completely resent your assertion that any vagina would fly off the handle to a comment such as your’s. I like vaginas and preferr to give them more credit than that Feel free to critic the shit out of my log and call me out if I flip.[/quote]
no wai, u has a log?
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Yes whey.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Seriously, this only works if there’s a basis of mutual respect, and you know the person has an honest desire to help, coach or mentor. Even then, it’s risky.
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Mutual respect is important. The advice giver obviously cares, otherwise they wouldn’t be trying to help. The recipient of that advice has to show enough respect to listen. That’s where there is an issue here.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Stronghold coaches me… and I still bang him.
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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
I ride Buckeye hard…[/quote]
lol
tee hee
I like giving people the benefit of the doubt. And I’m really good at doing that. I thought Nikki ended her log on a positive note–she was gracious and conciliatory. And that should have been the end. But, now I’m pissed off. Making me log in from work to call bull shit. You want to re-spin this so you don’t look like a bully. Do it elsewhere. There was no CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE to start. There was no advice to start. There were accusations. You can grow a pair and admit you accused this kid of padding her numbers and attacked her. I can go back to cbear’s log. I understood why she sounded off on her. It was deserved.
Let me help you with what to say in your apology.
We’re sorry Nikki. We forgot you are only 19 and new to the sport. We saw that bench video–and it looked to us like the spotter helped you–and we assumed that you were cheating. We thought it would be fun to play a game of cat and mouse. We got ahead of ahead of ourselves. We didn’t consider that you may not have known that if the spotter touches the bar at all (even in a non helpy way) the lift doesn’t count. But hey, that’s the way it is.
And oh, you really should rethink including you MP number in your log title total, because a “total” means something and includes only three lifts, and it could be misleading. You’re making great progress, and we think you have a lot of potential. We’re sorry that our correspondence with you caused you so much stress.
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The conduct which started this mess was unfortunate. This re-casting of it is despicable. Own your short-comings. No?
[quote]Nadia Comeandeat wrote:
I like giving people the benefit of the doubt. And I’m really good at doing that. I thought Nikki ended her log on a positive note–she was gracious and conciliatory. And that should have been the end. But, now I’m pissed off. Making me log in from work to call bull shit. You want to re-spin this so you don’t look like a bully. Do it elsewhere. There was no CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE to start. There was no advice to start. There were accusations. You can grow a pair and admit you accused this kid of padding her numbers and attacked her. I can go back to cbear’s log. I understood why she sounded off on her. It was deserved.
Let me help you with what to say in your apology.
We’re sorry Nikki. We forgot you are only 19 and new to the sport. We saw that bench video–and it looked to us like the spotter helped you–and we assumed that you were cheating. We thought it would be fun to play a game of cat and mouse. We got ahead of ahead of ourselves. We didn’t consider that you may not have known that if the spotter touches the bar at all (even in a non helpy way) the lift doesn’t count. But hey, that’s the way it is.
And oh, you really should rethink including you MP number in your log title total, because a “total” means something and includes only three lifts, and it could be misleading. You’re making great progress, and we think you have a lot of potential. We’re sorry that our correspondence with you caused you so much stress.
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The conduct which started this mess was unfortunate. This re-casting of it is despicable. Own your short-comings. No? [/quote]
Nadia is spot on.