[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
If you want to pick a fight, leave me out of it. I am sincerely not interested in playing this game again. After all, even if I counter every word you say, you’ll just shut up for a while, and pick it up again in a new thread.[/quote]
I’ll leave you out of it when you quit posting crap. Whining is truly unbecoming on you.
As for the shut up remark - you prove you ignorance yet again. I don’t EVER shut up. Just so you know.
Now go back to class.
[quote]Janoski wrote:
Jesus fellas I can’t believe you guys still argue this crap. I see that JeffR posted the thread, immediate understand that the thread itself has nothing to do with weightlifting and is simple Rush Limaugh bullshit, and skip over it. Other than knowing your enemy, I have no reason to give his thread the time of day. Hear’s to politics on a weightlifting page. Get a life JeffR. Take your “good guys” with you.[/quote]
No one makes you read it…and no one makes you comment on it.
Janoski wrote:
“Jesus fellas I can’t believe you guys still argue this crap. I see that JeffR posted the thread, immediate understand that the thread itself has nothing to do with weightlifting and is simple Rush Limaugh bullshit, and skip over it. Other than knowing your enemy, I have no reason to give his thread the time of day. Hear’s to politics on a weightlifting page. Get a life JeffR. Take your “good guys” with you.”
Hey, Janoski!!! That last post was damn ungenerous!!!
I want to leave with a perspective that you may not have considered.
There are some men (women) who are large AND have enough mind power to discuss politics.
Do not use Little Al as a barometer for the rest of us. He is an either or proposition.
Besides, pal, I reject the premise that weightlifters are automatically simple-minded.
So do yourself a favor, read these threads, participate in your community, and at least make your prick-dom humourous!!!
Thanks!!!
JeffR
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
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The US presence alone can be considered an invasion, since they had supported the french so strongly. …[/quote]
You really have to get your history straight.
The North invasion of the South started long before the US had significant troop levels in Vietnam.
1941: Ho Chi Minh forms the Viet Minh
1946: Viet Minh forces attack a French garrison in Hanoi beginning the first Vietnam War.
1950: President Truman’s National Security Council decides to provide military aid for the French war in Indochina.
1954: Following the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu, an agreement is reached splitting Vietnam at the 17th parallel into a Communist North and a non-Communist South, pending nationwide elections in 1956.
1955: Ngo Dinh Diem proclaims the Republic of South Vietnam and becomes its president.
April 1959: President Dwight D. Eisenhower commits the United States to maintaining South Vietnam’s independence.
July 1959: Two U.S. advisors are the first Americans killed, in guerrilla attack 20 miles north of Saigon.
April 1960: North Vietnam begins mandatory military service as its troops infiltrate South Vietnam.
By year’s end, about 900 U.S. military personnel are in Vietnam.
Dec. 1960: The National Liberation Front (the Viet Cong) is proclaimed.
May 1961: Kennedy sends 100 Special Forces troops, trained for guerrilla warfare, to Vietnam.
Dec. 1961: Secretary of State Dean Rusk says South Vietnam is in “clear and present danger” of communist conquest.
Feb. 1962: More American advisors and support personnel arrive. Kennedy warns that American advisors will return fire if attacked.
May 1962: In response to communists moving into Laos, U.S. sends 5,000 Marines and 50 fighter jets to Thailand.
Oct. 1962: U.S. discovers Soviet missile sites under construction in Cuba. Soviets agree to remove missiles, but crisis heightens fears of superpower conflict.
Jan. 1963: In battle of Ap Bac, South Vietnamese and Americans suffer worst defeat to date: five U.S. helicopters downed and three Americans killed.
Nov. 1963: South Vietnamese generals kill President Ngo Dinh Diem in a plot condoned by key American officials who felt Saigon could not win under his leadership. Three weeks later, Kennedy is assassinated. He is succeeded by Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson.
1964: North Vietnam begins infiltrating its regular army units into the South.
Aug. 1964: The Maddox, a U.S. destroyer, is slightly damaged by enemy boats in Tonkin Gulf. After a reported second attack–which many later concluded did not occur–Congress passes Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, giving Johnson authority to intensify the war.
Feb. 1965: Viet Cong attack an American airfield at Pleiku. U.S. bombers attacked targets in North for the first time, in a reprisal for attacks on U.S. bases.
March 1965: First U.S. combat troops in South Vietnam land in Da Nang.
April 1965: As Johnson formally authorizes combat troops to be used for offensive operations, antiwar movements become more active.
As to Ho Chi Mihn possibly embracing US style democracy if we would have supported him instead of the French, give me a freaking break.
He would say anything to cut US support for the French. You cannot possibly believe that BS.
Alexander, You really have huge blind spot when it comes to communism as an economic system and the totalitarian regimes that have been labelled communist.
Why are you so willing to distort the facts to try to support this horrible system?