[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]jre67t wrote:
If it is just you and mom get an American Pitbull, real loyal and extremely territorial. They are aggressive though. Real smart dogs. Our dog catches rats and possums along with squirrels. There is stigma with pitbulls but if your trying to protect your house its a good stigma to have.[/quote]
If you get a well-bred pitbull, it will never show any aggression toward humans though, so it won’t be an effective guard dog. Dobermans and Rottweilers are bred to respond to a threat to their owners, whether from humans or another animal. A pitbull won’t respond the same way, unless it’s poorly bred and is therefore a bad dog to have around anyways. A well-bred pit will still exhibit aggression toward other animals without being overly aggressive toward other dogs, especially ones that are smaller than it.[/quote]
I’m sorry, but this is simply not true. How many of y’all that are commenting on pits have 'em or have spent significant time around the breed? I have 3 Razors Edge pits and they are all as loyal, loving and goofy as can be. They love people and other animals, but make no mistake if someone were to step to me or my family or try and get where they’re not wanted everyone of my dogs would [and have] take action. You do need to expose pits to other breeds early 'cause their heritage is as farm dogs. They’re critter getters at heart and if they’re not used to small dogs a rat terrier just looks like a rat. And for the record, I can take all of my dogs to the park and they’ll play with other dogs all day. The problem is that other dogs generally try to “test” them, especially my male. Because of this I no longer take him to the dog park. Oh, and even though BG and I have had our differences on this board the guy knows his dogs. People need to listen when he talks about dogs.[/quote]
You got some bullshit pits then. Pitbulls were bred starting in the 1880’s (in America) for fighting, plain and simple. They should have ZERO aggression toward humans because they were bred to be able to be pulled out of the ring in the middle of a fight by its owner or a referee without turning on the human. Any pitbull that does not meet this standard is an example of poor breeding. In the past, any pitbull that EVER showed aggression toward a human, especially unprovoked aggression, was shot on sight so that it would not contaminate the breed.
I’ve had three pitbulls, all of whom came from professional breeders who breed the dogs for temperament and conformation and looks, meaning that the dogs are bred to meet AKC and/or UKC standards. I’m very familiar with Razor’s Edge breeders and dogs. They’re bullshit dogs, period. They aren’t bred for anything other than the typical bully look and as a result factors like temperament, conformity and intelligence are cast aside. Their dogs don’t even approach the ideal look and temperament of a real pitbull. This is a link to a great breeder down in Florida that I got my current dog from. They breed for show, not rap videos like Razor’s Edge, and as a result their dogs are bred primarily for temperament and looks. My puppy is from the first pair of dogs shown (Steel and Blaze).
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I don’t give a fuck what you consider bullshit or not, 'cause you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Pits were bred in ENGLAND, and were used for a variety of things. Yes, fighting was one of them. But, when they were shipped over they were used mostly as farm dogs, hence the “critter gitter” label. The apbt was actually Americas dog and was used as the face for patriotism during WW1. And, if you did a little more research instead of talking out of your fucking ass you’d realize that Razors Edge are actually bred for temperment and intelligence, as well as the traditional bully look. And, once again, if you’d read I mentioned more than once how awesome my dogs are around people and other animals. [/quote]
I agree with DB, and your dogs are bully’s not pit bulls, for a representation of an actual pit bull, check out lil bit down below.
I would never put a bully in a 30 with a APBT, they’ll end up chewed up and spit out. I’ve had the unfortunate experience of seeing two bully’s get in a fight. They lasted all of four minutes before they ran out of air. (FYI: Real dog fights last around :45 - 1:30hrs)
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I understand that RE’s are not typical apbt’s. They’re not game dogs. But, they do have apbt blood in them. I would never put a bully in a pen with an apbt either. In fact, I would never put any dog in a pen to fight. I’ve been around quite a few fights. BG and I have spoken at length about this. I know quite a few guys out in the country who fight their dogs. They make some scratch but to me it’s trashy. To each their own.
BUT…would I recommend the breed? Depends. I’ve had to be very stern with mine, and sometimes you really gotta show them who’s boss because they’re like shitty little kids lol. In the end though, they are sooo loving and loyal. They’re super smart too, but it all depends on your personality. I love the challenge, but it can be frustrating at times. Anyway, in my experience if you just want a protective dog that’s easy to train, get a german shepard! sorry for the rant, hope this helps.[/quote]
