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[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]thick88 wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Fighting Fires, this may be a dumb question buthave you gone to another vet and told them what’s going on, including what your current vet has been doing that isn’t working?[/quote]

yes sir. im actually on my second vet now, and trying #3 this week hopefully wed, which is my first day off. And this third vet im feeling pretty good about, hes a close family friend, of a close family friend of mine (make sense? lol) and i dont feel he will jerk me around at all. as of now im just monitoring it and cleaning the ear daily to make sure it doesnt take a turn for the worse.

Main reason i think ill like this guy, i called him immediately after the surgery when i did not agree with the drug choices of the vet that did the surgery, i didnt find out about this guy until after the surgery which is why i didnt go to him sooner. and he told me what he thought, which was actually what i thought about the drugs and he was real nice and all. the only reason i havent gone to him sooner was that since this current vet did the surgery, i felt that i wanted to see her through til the incision was all heeled up. [/quote]

Apologize for interrupting guard dog talk, but my dog also had chronic ear infections. I was going broke going to the vet every other month for tests & meds only to have infections flair up again almost immediately.

Then a vet suggested it may be a food allergy, we switched to a grain free food (Wellness Core) & the ears cleared right up, been infection free ever since. It might be worth a try.
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Hey thanks a lot. Can i pick that up at like a petsmart or something like that? or must it be specially ordered? [/quote]

Yeah man, petsmart just (literally like last week) started carrying Wellness brand, also found it at several independent pet stores & farm supply stores.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
^BG,I was reading this thread and was hoping you would respond. You got your shit together when it comes to dogs man.

This is weird but I’ve heard a few times that geese(white ones) are the best at warning you when there is an intruder…after that they’re useless…like my contribution to this thread lol.

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From time to time, I’ve actually had guinea hens on my property bc they are rumored to eat ticks and damn if they don’t raise a damn racket when someone comes around so who knows…maybe there is some truth to the geese thing lol.[/quote]

Guinea hens are nasty birds. I’ve seen one attack a grown man.[/quote]

I’ve only been around one Colby [that I know of], and that was at a dog park with my male. They were having a Mexican standoff and I stepped in and squashed it. Pretty sure the owner didn’t know what he had. That same day is the only time I’ve seen my male tie into it with another dog, and it wasn’t 20 seconds after he and the Colby stiffened up on eachother. I really wish people researched the breed they intend on owning so they fully understand what they’re getting into.[/quote]

Yeah, an acquaintance of mine had his dogs on 20 foot tethers, and a dog jumped his fence and went into the back yard, oh boy. The dog had to get though a half dozen dogs, and didn’t make it through the first one. Needless to say, his dogs are in kennels now.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
^BG,I was reading this thread and was hoping you would respond. You got your shit together when it comes to dogs man.

This is weird but I’ve heard a few times that geese(white ones) are the best at warning you when there is an intruder…after that they’re useless…like my contribution to this thread lol.

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From time to time, I’ve actually had guinea hens on my property bc they are rumored to eat ticks and damn if they don’t raise a damn racket when someone comes around so who knows…maybe there is some truth to the geese thing lol.[/quote]

Guinea hens are nasty birds. I’ve seen one attack a grown man.[/quote]

My mom has over 20 on her property. They’re loud as fuck.[/quote]

They are great to keep around chickens though. Keep those damn foxes and coyotes out of my roosts. Although I’ll never keep a male guinea again. Killed my fucking rooster during a four day blizzard.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
^BG,I was reading this thread and was hoping you would respond. You got your shit together when it comes to dogs man.

This is weird but I’ve heard a few times that geese(white ones) are the best at warning you when there is an intruder…after that they’re useless…like my contribution to this thread lol.

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From time to time, I’ve actually had guinea hens on my property bc they are rumored to eat ticks and damn if they don’t raise a damn racket when someone comes around so who knows…maybe there is some truth to the geese thing lol.[/quote]

Guinea hens are nasty birds. I’ve seen one attack a grown man.[/quote]

My mom has over 20 on her property. They’re loud as fuck.[/quote]

They are great to keep around chickens though. Keep those damn foxes and coyotes out of my roosts. Although I’ll never keep a male guinea again. Killed my fucking rooster during a four day blizzard.[/quote]

Around here they are used to keep snakes away.

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
^BG,I was reading this thread and was hoping you would respond. You got your shit together when it comes to dogs man.

This is weird but I’ve heard a few times that geese(white ones) are the best at warning you when there is an intruder…after that they’re useless…like my contribution to this thread lol.

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From time to time, I’ve actually had guinea hens on my property bc they are rumored to eat ticks and damn if they don’t raise a damn racket when someone comes around so who knows…maybe there is some truth to the geese thing lol.[/quote]

Guinea hens are nasty birds. I’ve seen one attack a grown man.[/quote]

My mom has over 20 on her property. They’re loud as fuck.[/quote]

They are great to keep around chickens though. Keep those damn foxes and coyotes out of my roosts. Although I’ll never keep a male guinea again. Killed my fucking rooster during a four day blizzard.[/quote]

Around here they are used to keep snakes away.
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And they’re friggin delicious!

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[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
any of these. I want to buy a Cane Corso or G Shepard pup coming up.

http://listverse.com/2007/11/13/top-10-badass-guard-dogs/[/quote]

Good info in the link. Cane Corsos look pretty cool. My brother knows a rancher who uses two Great Pyrenees as cattle dogs. Last winter the bigger of the two killed three wolves and two mountain lions by himself. Pretty badass dogs.

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Presa Canario

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[quote]LeanCarlosBrown wrote:
Presa Canario[/quote]

This. I want. I imagine they are hard to find? I’d never heard of them until now.

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[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]LeanCarlosBrown wrote:
Presa Canario[/quote]

This. I want. I imagine they are hard to find? I’d never heard of them until now.[/quote]

Beast,

He trains his Presa’s for personal protection. You can find his videos’ on youtube as well.

Yes, they are a liability. They are trained to attack intruders and protect the Alpha Male. I do agree with Bodyguard with his previous long post. Big dogs with big bites, or any dog with a bit for that matter, is a liability. One of these as a pet can deter any intruder. But for me, the Presa is a great deterrent. If the intruder were to kill the Presa, it’d be enough to slow the intruder while I zero-in on the intruder. So if one were to choose an animal like the Presa Canario, look no further. For Sanders has amazing blood lines throughout his kennel. They have great temperment with children too, as you’ll later see on the youtube clips.

LCB

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Beast,

Also, if I’m not mistaken, they’re a mix of Bull Mastiff’s and another large dog like the Cane Corso. Their bloodline does stem from the Bull Mastiff though. That I do know.

The Presa Canario, also known as the Canary Dog, is a massive, strong breed that is a natural guard dog and cattle herder. Not for the faint of heart, this dog has the potential to be a fearsome foe.

History and Origin

Native to the Canary Islands off the coast of Spain, the Presa Canario is a muscular dog with a strong personality. This breed was originally used for fighting and was developed by crossing now extinct herd dogs that were brought to the Canary Islands by Spanish settlers. The breed was an excellent fighting dog but their numbers dwindled almost to extinction when fighting was banned in the 1940s. In 1960, some interested breeders tried to restore the Presa Canario by crossing the Perro de Ganado Majorero and other large powerful breeds. From this crossing two variations came into being.

The Presa Canario coming from the Grand Canary Island is a very large, strong dog resulting from the Perro crossed with the mastiff and the Great Dane. The other variation comes from Tenerife and is more agile. This version was developed by crossing the bulldog, bullmastiff, Great Dane, Staffordshire bull terrier, pitbulls and dogue de Bordeaux.

Today, the Presa Canario is said to be a mix of all the crosses and breeders are working towards characteristics of an excellent herding dog and guard dog. They are however banned from several countries due to their tendencies toward aggression. The breed is allowed in the United States, but the American Kennel Club does not recognize the breed at this time.

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[quote]LeanCarlosBrown wrote:
Beast,

Also, if I’m not mistaken, they’re a mix of Bull Mastiff’s and another large dog like the Cane Corso. Their bloodline does stem from the Bull Mastiff though. That I do know.

The Presa Canario, also known as the Canary Dog, is a massive, strong breed that is a natural guard dog and cattle herder. Not for the faint of heart, this dog has the potential to be a fearsome foe.

History and Origin

Native to the Canary Islands off the coast of Spain, the Presa Canario is a muscular dog with a strong personality. This breed was originally used for fighting and was developed by crossing now extinct herd dogs that were brought to the Canary Islands by Spanish settlers. The breed was an excellent fighting dog but their numbers dwindled almost to extinction when fighting was banned in the 1940s. In 1960, some interested breeders tried to restore the Presa Canario by crossing the Perro de Ganado Majorero and other large powerful breeds. From this crossing two variations came into being.

The Presa Canario coming from the Grand Canary Island is a very large, strong dog resulting from the Perro crossed with the mastiff and the Great Dane. The other variation comes from Tenerife and is more agile. This version was developed by crossing the bulldog, bullmastiff, Great Dane, Staffordshire bull terrier, pitbulls and dogue de Bordeaux.

Today, the Presa Canario is said to be a mix of all the crosses and breeders are working towards characteristics of an excellent herding dog and guard dog. They are however banned from several countries due to their tendencies toward aggression. The breed is allowed in the United States, but the American Kennel Club does not recognize the breed at this time.

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Yeah, I researched a lot of this today. Sanders was the second stop on my research tour. I am most definitely aware of the liability issues. It was the same for the three pits I had. One thing I did was socialize them young, but I would first let folks know the breed and such. By the time I would get it out, Bailey (95 lb’er) would already be showing off for whomever was nearby. But yeah, I am now a fan of the PC, as well as the Cane Corso and Pits. Good stuff. Thanks for the info.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
A bull terrier breed is a bad idea. Especially if your state has laws against harming trespassers. The dog will get put down if it attacks an intruder. And the reputation of the breed has a lot to do with the decision making. Plus the bull terrier breeds tend to love people too much. And if you raise them it to be aggressive towards people youre taking a personal risk.

Why not just go nuts and get an English Mastiff like Hercules from The Sandlot. 180lb Mastiffs are no joke. [/quote]

It’s nice to see someone whoe actually appears to have some knowledge rather than just spouting bullshit or factoids they picked up from google searches. a couple of things.

To the people saying a Cane Corso is not a guard dog because you had a sweet cuddly one when you were a kid. Get a clue, the dog is in the molosser(mastiff) group, this is what they were bred for, to protect large plots of property and its inhabitants from any and all intruders. They also historically were the dogs to be brought into battles.

Secondly, the APBT (pit) or any other type bred for gaming purposes will not be a good guard dog. These dogs are bred specifically to be friendly as possible with humans. If somebody tells you how agressive pits are is towards anything other than dogs (possibly other animals) they are talking out of their ass.

Anybody who quotes dog bite statistics which try to paint a breed as agressive is an idiot. These stats are put together by propaganda groups that are actively fighting for breed legislation, i.e. making pits illegal to own. These groups often compile their “research” from newspaper articles and tv reports (inaccurate) as opposed to reports by animal authorities who are experts in the situation (accurate). Would you believe racial tolerance statistics from a confederate flag waving redneck in georgia? I doubt it.

Now, after a long and irrational rant, I would recommend any of the molosser/mastiff group such as the corso, rotweiller, mastiff, french mastiff, Presa Canario, American Bulldog, Neopolitan Mastiff etc. These dogs were originally bred for exactly what you want. If you find a good breeder the instincts should still be in place for the dog to roam your property, be friendly to what its supposed to and protect what it’s supposed to with minimal training.

an even better suggestion would be to conduct your own research from a site that registers breeds like the AKC, UKC or adba rather than asking on a weightlifting forum. Nothing will make you a better owner in the long run than learning all you can about behavior and the instincts of dogs in general as well as the breed you choose.

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You’re welcome brother.

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I think you guys that want a dog, who is large enough to do damage, and will willingly attack people for being in his territory are crazy. I wouldn’t want a dog like that at all.

I mean what happens when a kid hits a ball into your yard or even through your window and goes to retrieve it while you aren’t home?

My dogs warn me when someone’s coming and scare of packs coyotes (literally) and that’s all I think anyone should ask for out of a dog unless they are a cop under intense training and supervision.

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[quote]byukid wrote:
anyone have an opinion on swiss mountain dogs? I met one and I’m pretty sure it’s an excellent breed, and definitely the dog I’m considering[/quote]

My sister and my co-worker have/had one and they absolutely LOVE them.

They’re great all around dogs, but, they need a LOT of exercise and room to run, otherwse they get bored.

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[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
any of these. I want to buy a Cane Corso or G Shepard pup coming up.

http://listverse.com/2007/11/13/top-10-badass-guard-dogs/[/quote]

Good info in the link. Cane Corsos look pretty cool. My brother knows a rancher who uses two Great Pyrenees as cattle dogs. Last winter the bigger of the two killed three wolves and two mountain lions by himself. Pretty badass dogs.[/quote]

Wait. Your buddy has a dog that killed mountain lions by itself? Were they cubs? I think your buddy’s lying to you. When I referenced my male having only been in one scrap it was with two great pyrenees, and he had one on it’s back by the throat while the other was biting his tail. He didn’t bite, just kinda had him pinned but he was definitely “winning the fight” and I sure as fuck wouldn’t put him against a mountain lion.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I think you guys that want a dog, who is large enough to do damage, and will willingly attack people for being in his territory are crazy. I wouldn’t want a dog like that at all.

I mean what happens when a kid hits a ball into your yard or even through your window and goes to retrieve it while you aren’t home?

My dogs warn me when someone’s coming and scare of packs coyotes (literally) and that’s all I think anyone should ask for out of a dog unless they are a cop under intense training and supervision.
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Why is a kid coming into my house when I am not home?

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Correct, kids shouldn’t do that. So if they do, they should be torn to shreds by a dog.

Owning a badass dog has never anything to do with penis size!

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I think you guys that want a dog, who is large enough to do damage, and will willingly attack people for being in his territory are crazy. I wouldn’t want a dog like that at all.

I mean what happens when a kid hits a ball into your yard or even through your window and goes to retrieve it while you aren’t home?

My dogs warn me when someone’s coming and scare of packs coyotes (literally) and that’s all I think anyone should ask for out of a dog unless they are a cop under intense training and supervision.
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Why is a kid coming into my house when I am not home?[/quote]

“I mean what happens when a kid hits a ball into your yard or even through your window and goes to retrieve it while you aren’t home?”

Must have missed that part of my post huh?

While I agree a kid shouldn’t be coming into your house, it’s very possible. And some stupid teenage kid, even if they are trying to rob you or vandalize your house, doesn’t deserve to be killed over it.

I mean, as it is, a kids parents can sue you after the kid jumps your fence and drowns in your pool because they weren’t keeping track of him. What do yall think would happen if your dog mauled somebody?

Edit: 3rd try at fixing this…

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Ty Carlson wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
any of these. I want to buy a Cane Corso or G Shepard pup coming up.

http://listverse.com/2007/11/13/top-10-badass-guard-dogs/[/quote]

Good info in the link. Cane Corsos look pretty cool. My brother knows a rancher who uses two Great Pyrenees as cattle dogs. Last winter the bigger of the two killed three wolves and two mountain lions by himself. Pretty badass dogs.[/quote]

Wait. Your buddy has a dog that killed mountain lions by itself? Were they cubs? I think your buddy’s lying to you. When I referenced my male having only been in one scrap it was with two great pyrenees, and he had one on it’s back by the throat while the other was biting his tail. He didn’t bite, just kinda had him pinned but he was definitely “winning the fight” and I sure as fuck wouldn’t put him against a mountain lion.[/quote]

I would love to see a dog that could take on a mountain lion.