Going Banana's in '09

At a whopping 130 kg and, from what I can tell, 30%+ BF, do you really feel you need a fat burner? That should be your ace card once you have everything else dialled in 100%.

And besides… I was at 90kg, and went down to like 87kg before even cutting consciously, just by walking every day! Seriously, being at 130kg must be like a full-time profession, you DON’T need that fat burner, all you need to do is cut down on the junk and you’ll lose a lot of weight EFFORTLESSLY. Your diet is atrocious, start by working on that.

[quote]G87 wrote:
At a whopping 130 kg and, from what I can tell, 30%+ BF, do you really feel you need a fat burner? That should be your ace card once you have everything else dialled in 100%.

And besides… I was at 90kg, and went down to like 87kg before even cutting consciously, just by walking every day! Seriously, being at 130kg must be like a full-time profession, you DON’T need that fat burner, all you need to do is cut down on the junk and you’ll lose a lot of weight EFFORTLESSLY. Your diet is atrocious, start by working on that. [/quote]

so whats wrong with my diet?

Scott

  1. CEE doesn’t work, at least didn’t for me.

  2. Glutamine or carbs PWO w/whey

  3. Cashew nuts and sultanas aren’t a meal. A meal needs to have a good amount of protein in it.

  4. Too long a delay between workout and PWO meal.

  5. If you have to ask what’s wrong with your diet when you ate a burger, coleslaw and chips for dinner last week, you should read up on nutrition. For real.

  6. Cut out the mayo. Get some other source of fats.

  7. No saladcream

  8. You had 4 sausages and peas for a meal… man… Most of the time there is nothing healthy or lean about sausages, unless you failed to mention they were diet sausages or w/e.

  9. Meal 5 today. You had bananas and oats before bed. Why? Why? Do you think you’ll need those carbs before bed?

Sorry if I came across as harsh in my first post, didn’t mean to. I just think you have a lot of things to work on before using a fat burner. Read some Berardi for starters, I guess…

There is no delay between the PWO meal… unless ur talking about the delay from the PWO shake to the next meal?

i have a shake pretty much straight after my last set.

The nuts will be canned onced i start on monday.

Same with the mayo, going to be eating tuna with EVOO.

Sausages where organic ones my mates dad sent up from there farm.

The bananaS and oats was me messing about with my new blender. that wont be happening next week.

The CEE is working for me. mono didnt.

Cool; good luck on your cut. Weird, CEE didn’t work for anyone I know, but good for you :). Do you actually take CEE as part of the shake, because that must ruin the taste?

[quote]G87 wrote:
Cool; good luck on your cut. Weird, CEE didn’t work for anyone I know, but good for you :). Do you actually take CEE as part of the shake, because that must ruin the taste?[/quote]

5g in the shake… its horrible at first, but i quite like it now.

then again im not adverse to a tuna and egg white smoothy.

11.15 Wakeup

11.30 MEAL 1
Shake:
2x Banana
1 scoop whey
1 scoop Casein
10g BCAA
2g ALCAR
oats

1 thermopure
5 fishoil
1 multi

13.30 MEAL 2
whey/casein shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE
2g ALCAR

14.00 Gym
Bench
20kg x10
60kg x8
80kg x5
85kg x5
90kg x5
95kg x5
100kg x5

Close Grip
80kg 3x5

Decline Flys
3x6 17.5kg DBs

Tricep Extensions 5x5

Supersetted with

Bicep Curls
25kg DB 5x5

15.00 MEAL 3
Whey shake
5g CEE
5g BCAA

16.00 MEAL 4
Tuna
Olive Oil

1 thermopure

18.00 MEAL 5
1/4 pounder burger
bacon
cheese
salad
3 pints of smithwicks (ireland were playing rugby, beat the english. :D)

20.30 MEAL 6
Casein Shake
5g BCAA

Tuna shakes are great. It is exhausting trying to choke down tuna all the time. Keep working hard!

12.30 Wake up

13.00 MEAL 1
Shake:
Oats
2 scoops whey
1 scoop casein
5g BCAA
5g CEE
2g ALCAR

1 thermopure

14.00 GYM

Hang Snatchs
25kg x3
45kg x3
50kg x3
55kg x3
60kg x3

Hang Power cleans + Push Press
60kg x3
65kg x3
70kg x3

Power clean + Push Press
75kg x3
80kg 2x3
85kg x3
90kg x2

Snatch Grip High Pulls (Full extension onto toes and full shrug)
90kg x5
100kg x5
105kg x5
115kg 2x5

Speed Deadlifts from 2 inch deficit (with straps)
145kg 4x5

16.45 MEAL 2
Whey shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE
2g ALCAR

17.30
1 multi
5 fishoil
1 thermopure

18.30 MEAL 3 (THE LAST SUPPER, basically getting rid of everything that i own thats “BAD”.)

8 sausages
4 bacon
4 square sausage
2 black pudding
3 eggs
6 slices of bread + butter
tomato ketchup

Its all go tomorrow. :smiley:

21.45 MEAL 4
Casein Shake
5g BCAA
5 fishoil

Day 1 of 56

09.00 Wake up

0905 MEAL 1
Shake:
2 scoops whey
1 scoop casein
1 banana
5g BCAA
2g ALCAR

5ml Fishoil
1 thermopure

11.45 MEAL 2
Whey/Casein Shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE
2g ALCAR

14.00 Gym
Squat:
60kg x8
100kg x5
120kg x5
130kg x5

100kg x20

Straight Leg Deadlifts
140kg 3x5

Leg Press
3x8

During:
2L water with 10g BCAA

Zero motivation, shit session.

15.30 MEAL 3
Whey Shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE

17.00 Meal 4
Tuna
Olive Oil

19.00 MEAL 5
250g Chicken
300g Tomatoes
80g Mushrooms
1 large onion
herbs

21.00 red bull sugar free

23.30 Meal 6
Casein Shake
5g BCAA

5ml fishoil

00.00 BED

So according to fitday, i took in the grand total of:
Cals 1100
Fat (g) 50
Carbs (g) 75 (30 from the banana)
Prot (g) 200

WTF. so i bascally need to double this? :S

Scott

11.30 Wake up

11.45
thermopure
Multi

12.00 MEAL 1
2 tbl spoons peanut butter
2 scoops whey
1 scoop casein
5g BCAA
2g ALCAR

5ml fishoil

14.30 MEAL 2
100g Chicken
tomatoes
onion
peas
mushrooms

15.30 Thermopure

18.00 MEAL 3
Shake:
150g Strawberrys
2 scoops casein
1 scoop whey
5g BCAA
5g CEE

21.15 MEAL 4
Tuna
Onion
Olive Oil
Chilli Powder
Garlic
Tumeric

22.45 MEAL 5
Casein Shake
5g BCAA

23.30 Bed

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
11.30 Wake up

11.45
thermopure
Multi

12.00 MEAL 1
2 tbl spoons peanut butter
2 scoops whey
1 scoop casein
5g BCAA
2g ALCAR

5ml fishoil

14.30 MEAL 2
100g Chicken
tomatoes
onion
peas
mushrooms

15.30 Thermopure

18.00 MEAL 3
Shake:
150g Strawberrys
2 scoops casein
1 scoop whey
5g BCAA
5g CEE

21.15 MEAL 4
Tuna
Onion
Olive Oil
Chilli Powder
Garlic
Tumeric

22.45 MEAL 5
Casein Shake
5g BCAA

23.30 Bed[/quote]

This looked better, what are the totals for this?

At first glance looks like you need some fat in meal 5

[quote]thosebananas wrote:

So according to fitday, i took in the grand total of:
Cals 1100
Fat (g) 50
Carbs (g) 75 (30 from the banana)
Prot (g) 200

WTF. so i bascally need to double this? :S

Scott[/quote]

That’s more than 1100

[quote]bulldog24 wrote:
thosebananas wrote:

So according to fitday, i took in the grand total of:
Cals 1100
Fat (g) 50
Carbs (g) 75 (30 from the banana)
Prot (g) 200

WTF. so i bascally need to double this? :S

Scott

That’s more than 1100[/quote]

what…?

I dont get what ur saying?

Scott

Day 3

08.00am Wake up

08.15
2 Thermopure
multi
5g BCAA

09.00 CARDIO
30mins on bike. fat burn. 15 kms, 400 cals acccording to machine

During
1L water + 15g BCAA

09.45 MEAL 1
whey/casein shake
5g BCAA
5g CEE
2g ALCAR

10-14.00 UNI

14.30 MEAL 2
Shake:
Strawberries
2scoops Whey
2 scoops Casein
5g BCAA
5g CEE
3g ALCAR

1 thermopure

19.00 MEAL 3
1/2 tin of corned beef
1/2 onion
lea and perings

21.00 MEAL 4
1 scoop casein
5g BCAA

23.00 MEAL 5
1/2 tin corned beef
1/2 onion
lea and perings

0200 Bed

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
bulldog24 wrote:
thosebananas wrote:

So according to fitday, i took in the grand total of:
Cals 1100
Fat (g) 50
Carbs (g) 75 (30 from the banana)
Prot (g) 200

WTF. so i bascally need to double this? :S

Scott

That’s more than 1100

what…?

I dont get what ur saying?

Scott[/quote]

Do you really not, or are you just being cocky?

509 = 450
75
4=300
200*4=800

450+300+800=1550 calories.

I wasnt being cocky, i genuinely didnt know what he was on about.

ah right… so ur takeing the number of cals per gram of each macro?

thats what fit day told me and i just copyed and pasted it. but i see that your right?

wtf is up with fitday then?

still too low, but makes me feel slightly less like im starving myself.

Scott

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
I wasnt being cocky, i genuinely didnt know what he was on about.

ah right… so ur takeing the number of cals per gram of each macro?

thats what fit day told me and i just copyed and pasted it. but i see that your right?

wtf is up with fitday then?

still too low, but makes me feel slightly less like im starving myself.

Scott[/quote]

I don’t want to be mean or anything, but this is an example of relying on technology too much – You should know that 1100 calories is stupid low and you’d probably feel absolutely terrible if consuming that.

wats with all the bread in ur meals, od man

[quote]pervysage73 wrote:
wats with all the bread in ur meals, od man[/quote]

cut started on monday. theres been no bread since… and hardly any before anyway…