[quote]storey420 wrote:
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Ok, instead of the ad nauseum arguments about this little aspect of a topic or that, Give me a paragraph or two, or ten if you need it. Give me your basic argument of the major ideas you support and why. Taxes, Rights, Power, Wealth, Religion. Spin me a web that you would like to call home little spider.
I would like to institute one rule into this thread and I ask that you all abide. No one can discuss someones post, or parts of it, unless they themselves have posted thier basic argument. And Orion, please go into a little detail, one sentance or one word replies are weak.
I want to do this because I want to know what everyone else thinks. But I don’t want to learn that through heated arguments over topics. I want to know what YOU think your core beliefs are. There are no wrong answeres.
Thanks for playing!
V [/quote]
Can we add another rule if you don’t live in the U.S. don’t assume you know anything that goes on here. Cuz you probably don’t, you just see what someone want you too.
I believe in individual liberty and freedom. That we should all be responsible for and take accountability for our own actions.
I think instead of the government taxing to provide services, we should pay for the services we use. Thee are only a few common good services that apply across the board, those should be the only things needed to budget.
Instead of relying on handouts from the government we should be responsible, plan ahead and let the community take care of itself.
The government should not provide support for medical needs, should not send tax money to other countries, should not subsidize housing, cars, cell phones, clothes, food , anything. These are things has been done without government in a more efficient manner.
I believe the country needs to go back to producing goods again. Farming and manufacturing. We have nothing of value. We need to be allowed to fail so we learn to innovate, to perform better.
And if we must have government run entitlements, paying into them should be voluntary. No one should be forced to pay for something for someone else, that is not available to them.
I think school’s have absolutely no right to tax anyone. Parent’s should pay for their children’s education. If they can’t they bust their ass to find the support. Don’t have children unless you can afford them.
There should be no such thing as annual property tax or eminant domain. If you own property you own it, this is a democratic republic, not a feudal system. If a county or borough chosses to provide service everyone with residence in said area should be charged equally fo acces to said service.
I believe we need to go back to a justice system where judges don’t make up laws. Where victims have a right to protect themselves, families and property and criminals lose their rights. prison is expensive, it shouldn’t be, it should teach them a lesson.
on the topic of taxes I reference the 5th ammendmant, “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” you cannot take something (money) without just compensation, and well giving anything to someone else is not.
and I believe there should be an increased import tarrif on all imported goods and serives. don’t make it more adventageous to send jobs elsewhere.
helping others should be voluntary.
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Not to be lazy but a majority of these thoughts I am down with. I don’t agree that simply raising tariffs is that easy of an answer or achieves the desired effect.
To what he wrote I would add:
Don’t give a shit about gays getting married. Let’s actually live the Bill of Rights for once in this nation’s history and truly let all men be created equal. May not agree with the lifestyle personally but it should be your right to do what you want.
On that token, legalize all drugs. War on drugs= massive failure and always will be.
No welfare state, if you do want welfare then if I pay for it (via taxes) I get to determine what you eat and do (yes you will work).
Income tax was a shady voting situation and should be repealed, period. I will give the government my money via investments, bonds, etc.[/quote]
I agree, and now that I read what I posted, wow someone forgot to give me my ritalin today.
And I agree with the concept of legalized drugs. not in the sense that I want to get messed up all the time, but who are you to tell me what is better for me. Hell I know I would have a lot less joint problems if hGH and some othere things could be gotten leaglly.
Also the idea of homosexuality. I do agree. I don’t agree with the lifestyle but it is your choice. Just understand it is my choice to raise my kids with my values, select my employees and so on.
So on that not do away with the whole concept of equal opportunity employment, because it does just the opposite and plays to special interest group and minorities. A business has the right to operate as it choses, if you don’t like it leave.
on a side note after some further conversation with a couple QA officers where I amworking, I tend to agree with deregulating for pharma, not completely, but to the extent it is now is ludacris. aside from the R&D the reason treatments are so expensive.