Have any of you actually seen what 14-18 year olds do, or do you not remember when you were that old?
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Ridiculous. There is a HUGE change in maturity that occurs in that little age range you just listed. 18 years old isn’t even on the same planet as 14. Yes, I knew some 14 year olds having sex, but most of them ended up pregnant by senior year or completely turned out not soon after graduation. I would assume that most people (at least that grew up in the 80’s and 90’s) probably lost their virginity around 16 years of age. That still doesn’t make it ok for two 14 year olds to nearly hit “second base” while on the busride home.
One of the reasons we got away with so much shit growing up was because we did NOT do it in public like these two idiots.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I have a question for all the people who take the stance that the problem they see is that the people making out were “children”…
Where is the uproar that a bus driver “Stopped the bus along the street and forced them off.”??
On one hand, since they’re “children” they shouldn’t be able to kiss each other… but they’re damn well responsible enough to randomly be removed from a bus, presumably nowhere near their destination, with or without a safe public place within close walking distance, with or without means to contact someone for a ride, with or without means to another form of transportation…
wouldnt you consider it child abuse if a parent did the same thing to a child?[/quote]
They were old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult.
At least use a bit of sense if you are going to use that much hyperbole.
Emotional maturity – An emotionally mature adult is one who understands and accepts that all actions have a consequence. Being an emotionally mature adult means that we are capable of making decisions from our own free will. It requires that we accept our consequences no matter what they may be even if not all of the consequences are completely known at the time of the action. An emotionally mature adult accepts that sexual activity may result in a pregnancy, a STD, their best friend hating them–whatever. They do not have to like or even agree with the consequences; they are only required to understand and accept them.
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There are no emotional mature persons.
The most you can hope for is some level of neuroticism.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I have a question for all the people who take the stance that the problem they see is that the people making out were “children”…
Where is the uproar that a bus driver “Stopped the bus along the street and forced them off.”??
On one hand, since they’re “children” they shouldn’t be able to kiss each other… but they’re damn well responsible enough to randomly be removed from a bus, presumably nowhere near their destination, with or without a safe public place within close walking distance, with or without means to contact someone for a ride, with or without means to another form of transportation…
wouldnt you consider it child abuse if a parent did the same thing to a child?
They were old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult.
At least use a bit of sense if you are going to use that much hyperbole.
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So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.
The poster who kept insisting that its because they’re “children” are guilty of as much exaggeration.
So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.
The poster who kept insisting that its because they’re “children” are guilty of as much exaggeration. [/quote]
The way you think is disturbing, not because it is so revolutionary…but because you seem to think it is.
I think 10 year olds can be left home alone. Clearly, this means they should be able to order a hooker or two while mom and dad are out.
Oh come on. Making out is not the same thing as getting laid.
I remember being in 8th grade, so that would have made me about 13, and talking pretty vividly and openly about sex (although that didn’t happen until 17), and even trying to talk a neighborhood chick into going into the “woods” 2 blocks away to try and see how far I could get with her.
Unfortunately for me at the time, a 13 year old girl gets bored and probably a little freaked out by going into the woods with a boy.
There was a chick down the street from me who was known for bragging about dating older guys (one 17, and one she claimed was 21) when she was in 9th grade.
Yea, she was slutty, and just because she did it (or more likely lied about it) didn’t make it okay, but I’m just trying to show how much we’re not going to be able to keep the wool over their eyes.
When they’re that age, they WILL experiment with each other, and they will figure out stuff that many consider just for adults.
I could see if they were rubbing each other through their clothes, or groping, but the article does just say they were kissing.
I think the bus driver made a big deal about it more because they were both girls, than because of their age, though I think their age also added to it for him.
Does anyone think 2 boy and girl 14 year olds would have been made a big deal about for kissing on the public bus?
Not to mention that each generation seems to be “growing up” sooner than their predecessors.
So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.
The poster who kept insisting that its because they’re “children” are guilty of as much exaggeration.
The way you think is disturbing, not because it is so revolutionary…but because you seem to think it is.
I think 10 year olds can be left home alone. Clearly, this means they should be able to order a hooker or two while mom and dad are out.[/quote]
I dont see what, in anything I’ve written in this thread, was meant to come off as “revolutionary”. You seem to get a hard on for telling ME now I think.
You should take the Professor X thing a little less seriously.
[quote]SWR wrote:
Oh come on. Making out is not the same thing as getting laid.
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No one is saying it is, but you would have to be pretty disconnected yourself to not understand how deep “making out” can get. Hell, if you are really talented, you might be able to reach orgasm without removing any clothing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SWR wrote:
Oh come on. Making out is not the same thing as getting laid.
No one is saying it is, but you would have to be pretty disconnected yourself to not understand how deep “making out” can get. Hell, if you are really talented, you might be able to reach orgasm without removing any clothing.[/quote]
Yea, but I was talking about what’s right or wrong to do in public. I think they’d still find a time and place to go further, unless they were just doing it for attention.
I don’t know, I have a 3 year old girl now. It might be interesting for me to look back at what I’m typing now, in about 10-11 years. I’m guessing the first word out of my mouth when I read it would be something along the lines of “idiot”, but as of right now, I’m pretty liberal about letting people do what they want as long as it doesn’t PHYSICALLY hurt or affect anyone else.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I dont see what, in anything I’ve written in this thread, was meant to come off as “revolutionary”. You seem to get a hard on for telling ME now I think.
You should take the Professor X thing a little less seriously. [/quote]
LOL. I know what X is getting at. You truly seem in love with every word you write. It shows in all of your posts. I imagine that, before posting, you say to yourself, “This is the most brilliant shit ever.”
In your defense, it is pretty obvious you’re a younger dude. At that age you don’t know enough to realize that every question that pops into your head isn’t, like, the most cosmic shit ever. (Who can ever forget your “philosophical musings” over the difference between Surge and Metabolic Drive?)
I am all for open inquiry and critical examination. But your musings seriously remind me more of the types of things people either really high or really full of themselves say.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.[/quote]
They should also be able to drive, vote, own a firearm, work a full-time job, buy alcohol, and smoke cigarettes?
Generally we recognize that as a person matures, he or she is entitled to more responsibility and is given the power to make more decisions. I am not saying that making out is some huge decision - like owning a gun. But at 14, a person has considerable restrictions placed on his liberty, and is in many senses, a child.
Anyhow, I have to say I’m surprised at all of these adults who seem to want to have sex with 14 year olds. I have to wonder how low one’s testosterone is when he’s jonesing for babies.
Anyhow, I have to say I’m surprised at all of these adults who seem to want to have sex with 14 year olds. I have to wonder how low one’s testosterone is when he’s jonesing for babies.[/quote]
Obviously pretty high if someone wants to fuck anything that moves and doesn`t give a shit what society thinks.
By the way there are people that do fuck babies, as in, babies and that is an entirely different ballgame.
So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.
The poster who kept insisting that its because they’re “children” are guilty of as much exaggeration.
The way you think is disturbing, not because it is so revolutionary…but because you seem to think it is.
I think 10 year olds can be left home alone. Clearly, this means they should be able to order a hooker or two while mom and dad are out.[/quote]
So if it was a 14 year old BLACK boy and a 14 year old WHITE girl making out, and thrown off the bus… would you be having the same reaction?
Or would you be likely to consider that there may have been an element of racial bigotry involved? That the “real” problem wasnt the age, but the fact that the bus driver/older woman didn’t want to see two “sickoes”(as the two girls were called) with Jungle Fever showing each other affection?
Did you actually read the article at all, where it says they were thrown off after the one HUGGED the other to comfort her about them being told to stop kissing? Clearly, CLEARLY, hugging = going at it like they were in a hotel room while on the bus.
But, sigh, I can’t imagine there was any sort of element of bigotry here whatsoever (even the bus driver calling them sickos…).
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Professor X wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So if they’re old enough to be traveling un-escorted by an adult, I think they’re clearly old enough to decide who they will consent to making out with.
The poster who kept insisting that its because they’re “children” are guilty of as much exaggeration.
The way you think is disturbing, not because it is so revolutionary…but because you seem to think it is.
I think 10 year olds can be left home alone. Clearly, this means they should be able to order a hooker or two while mom and dad are out.
So if it was a 14 year old BLACK boy and a 14 year old WHITE girl making out, and thrown off the bus… would you be having the same reaction?
Or would you be likely to consider that there may have been an element of racial bigotry involved? That the “real” problem wasnt the age, but the fact that the bus driver/older woman didn’t want to see two “sickoes”(as the two girls were called) with Jungle Fever showing each other affection?
Did you actually read the article at all, where it says they were thrown off after the one HUGGED the other to comfort her about them being told to stop kissing? Clearly, CLEARLY, hugging = going at it like they were in a hotel room while on the bus.
But, sigh, I can’t imagine there was any sort of element of bigotry here whatsoever (even the bus driver calling them sickos…).
I think the two kids did it for the attention, and they got exactly what they wanted. I also think it shows a complete lack of respect.
It is more an issue of common courtesy. I don’t care who it is: I don’t want to see people making out in the seat in front of me. That’s why God invented backseats, and couches, and GGW videos.
If I get word that my daughter was acting like that in public, she will have hell to pay.
The bus driver was a dumbass for kicking them off the bus - but since when do we punish dumbassery? Hell - we elect it to public office.