Girls Kicked Off Bus for Kissing

Off Topic
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Perhaps they have some of the lowest stats on “sexual crimes” precisely because it’s not considered a crime there for a 40-year-old guy to bang a 12-year-old . . . .

I’m kidding. (Well, partly, anyway). I do realize that, in general, despite their very open, liberal attitudes about sexuality, prostitution, drugs, etc., they do have very low rates of things like rape and drug addiction relative to some of the more uptight countries (like the U.S.).

[quote]AdamC wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
derek wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
IMO 14 year olds are inmature, annoying and probably extremely bad in bed.

Yeah, they need that magical 4 years to become “Playmate” material.

So why not go a magical 4 years the other way and date 10 year olds?

What’s four years right?

There is a difference between a 14 year old and a 10 yr old–its called sexual maturity.

I think most of you are confusing sexual maturity with emotional maturity. The emotional maturity between a 10, 14, 16, 20, or 40 year old is different for every person and a relative concept. In most cases I would I would still consider an 18 yr old an emotional child.

Biologically, men will find sexually mature women attractive; sociologically, we have been programmed to wait for emotional maturity to happen before we can legally take advantage of them. This always magically happens at the age of 18.

Or 21 in some states, right?

It’s 16 here in England, but as a 25 year old it would definitely be frowned upon and mocked if i were to sleep with a 16 year old.

I’ve always thought our Dutch friends who have a legal age of 12 (i think) are bit dodgy, but then from what i’ve read and heard they have some of the lowest stats on underage pregnancy and sexual crimes…[/quote]

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People should not be swapping spit on a bus and making the other passengers uncomfortable. Get a room.

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Unless they’re two very hot chicks. (Of legal age, of course).

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
People should not be swapping spit on a bus and making the other passengers uncomfortable. Get a room.[/quote]

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[quote]Damici wrote:
Unless they’re two very hot chicks. (Of legal age, of course).

Zap Branigan wrote:
People should not be swapping spit on a bus and making the other passengers uncomfortable. Get a room.

[/quote]

HI 5!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
That last quote was a movie reference to those not in the loop.[/quote]

Let me guess: “Pulp Fiction”. Oh, sorry, wrong thread :slight_smile:

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[quote]entheogens wrote:
Professor X wrote:
That last quote was a movie reference to those not in the loop.

Let me guess: “Pulp Fiction”. Oh, sorry, wrong thread :slight_smile:

[/quote]

10 points for that one.

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[quote]derek wrote:
“Biologically capable of reproducing” is a horrible thing to use for your definition.
[/quote]
There are two prerequisites to be considered an “adult”.

  1. Sexual maturity – capable of reproducing

  2. Emotional maturity – An emotionally mature adult is one who understands and accepts that all actions have a consequence. Being an emotionally mature adult means that we are capable of making decisions from our own free will. It requires that we accept our consequences no matter what they may be even if not all of the consequences are completely known at the time of the action. An emotionally mature adult accepts that sexual activity may result in a pregnancy, a STD, their best friend hating them–whatever. They do not have to like or even agree with the consequences; they are only required to understand and accept them.

Notice how “acceptance” is the last stage in coping with grief. It is not a coincidence that this is often the hardest ideal to attain. It is the true sign of an “emotionally mature” individual.

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[quote]AdamC wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
derek wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
IMO 14 year olds are inmature, annoying and probably extremely bad in bed.

Yeah, they need that magical 4 years to become “Playmate” material.

So why not go a magical 4 years the other way and date 10 year olds?

What’s four years right?

There is a difference between a 14 year old and a 10 yr old–its called sexual maturity.

I think most of you are confusing sexual maturity with emotional maturity. The emotional maturity between a 10, 14, 16, 20, or 40 year old is different for every person and a relative concept. In most cases I would I would still consider an 18 yr old an emotional child.

Biologically, men will find sexually mature women attractive; sociologically, we have been programmed to wait for emotional maturity to happen before we can legally take advantage of them. This always magically happens at the age of 18.

Or 21 in some states, right?

It’s 16 here in England, but as a 25 year old it would definitely be frowned upon and mocked if i were to sleep with a 16 year old.

I’ve always thought our Dutch friends who have a legal age of 12 (i think) are bit dodgy, but then from what i’ve read and heard they have some of the lowest stats on underage pregnancy and sexual crimes…[/quote]

The Dutch actually have a political party called the Pedophile Party. They tried to become legit and got something like a 20% support in the voting.

The Netherlands must be one strange place…

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[quote]Damici wrote:
For the record, I think I agree with Howard Stern: If I had a daughter I’d hope and pray that she turned out to be a lesbian. Somehow that would just seem much more palatable to me than the idea of some dude climbing on top of her and boning her.
[/quote]

Ok, I have two daughters and I agree with Stern as well on this point :wink:

I dont understand the problem people have with these two girls. Now let’s assume that it was NOT a little peck on the lips. It was a real kiss. So what?
Tell them to stop it, throw them off the bus. Then what? They go off somewhere private to do it.

I agree that they are biologically adults. Their hormones are churning and they are going to find a way to get it on.

So is the problem that they are somehow offending people by kissing on the bus or just the fact that they are kissing?

If it’s the latter, unless, you want to resort to the old trick of telling them that their souls are going to rot for eternity in hell (which may or may not work), what are you going to do? Fermez les yeux et pensez a’ l’ Angleterre?

I am more concerned about my daughters NOT getting pregnant and NOT getting a disease. Of course, abstinence is the best way, but I have had a frank discussion with my 15 y.o about it and presented them with the options (birth control, prophylactics, etc), should she decide to have sex. I suspect that she is more likely to come to me to discuss it than if I had just laid down the law of God to her.
The other daughter is 5 y.o…presumably she doesn’t need that talk yet :).

You can get angry all you want to, but if you just scream at them and tell them to never have sex, they are just going to go behind your back and perhaps do it in a very unsafe way.

Throwing these girls off the bus DID NOTHING but make a bunch of old fuddy-duddies feel self-righteous. It did nothing to curb the sexual desires of those two girls.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The Dutch actually have a political party called the Pedophile Party. They tried to become legit and got something like a 20% support in the voting.

The Netherlands must be one strange place…

[/quote]

What’s your source?
Here’s what ABC news reports about the Dutch Pedophile Party:

“The party has only three known members, one of whom was convicted of molesting an 11-year-old boy in 1987. Widely dubbed the “pedophile” party, it is unlikely ever to win a seat in parliament. The group would need around 60,000 votes, and pollsters estimate it would get fewer than 1,000”

Link:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2202895

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Or you can just do what my friend says he’ll do if he ever has a daughter and she’s reaching pubescent age: Just tell her, with a completely straight face, “If you ever have sex, you’ll DIE.”

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I have a question for all the people who take the stance that the problem they see is that the people making out were “children”…

Where is the uproar that a bus driver “Stopped the bus along the street and forced them off.”??

On one hand, since they’re “children” they shouldn’t be able to kiss each other… but they’re damn well responsible enough to randomly be removed from a bus, presumably nowhere near their destination, with or without a safe public place within close walking distance, with or without means to contact someone for a ride, with or without means to another form of transportation…

wouldnt you consider it child abuse if a parent did the same thing to a child?

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Dude who gives a fuck how old they are. If you start getting freaky on the bus, they should kick you off. I pretty much guarantee they were warned several times. I dunno how many people here take American buses regularly, but you have to either be:

a.) Openly abusing intravenous drugs
b.) Practicing for a heavy metal concert
c.) Rounding second base

To get kicked off a bus. And the bus driver doesn’t just pull over and kick you off immediately, there are a few warnings first. So I think it’s pretty fair to assume that the “kissing” was a bit more than a polite greeting. And if I had a 14-year old daughter, I’d make her ass walk home if she was doing that in public. From a parenting issue, if you don’t mind your 14-year old (son or daughter) getting freaky on a bus, you’ve got some issues to deal with.

It’s got nothing to do with “biological maturity” or “curbing the desires” of 14-year olds. It just has to do with the fact that when I take the bus, I want a quiet, safe ride that gets me to my destination without people getting it on across the aisle. Regardless of gender, regardless of age.

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
I guess they were ugly.

DB[/quote]

Spot on.

This gives a little bit more info than the other one: like the time of day, part of the city, etc…

Also, a pic of the two.

http://www.katu.com/news/7938512.html

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[quote]AdamC wrote:
Damici wrote:
Unless they’re two very hot chicks. (Of legal age, of course).

Zap Branigan wrote:
People should not be swapping spit on a bus and making the other passengers uncomfortable. Get a room.

HI 5![/quote]

The girls in your avatar are allowed.

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In any civilized city nobody would do shit about people kissing in public transportation. The most would be some old lady telling them to knock it off.

Nowhere in the article did it say that they started vigorously making out, it just said ‘kiss’. Then some bitch who hasn’t had sex in millenia complains and the driver gives em the boot without even telling them to behave themselves? That’s retarded. It’s like when shows get canceled because some uptight asshole does a mass mailing of complaint letters.

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[quote]makkun wrote:
Although I lost my virginity a lot later, when I was 13 I had a 12 year old girlfriend.

We were an official couple for 8 months, handholding, kissing and all. Our parents new. 23 years later I’m still friends with her.

That’s just the age when most of us start to discover the other (or same) sex, whether the parents like it or not.

Better some public kissing then abusing other passengers, knifing or shooting each other.

Makkun[/quote]

This story doesn’t seem too scary to me.

At 14, I knew some chicks that were doing some seriously bad shit. Forget kissing on the bus, there were broads who were tripping on E, going to the city to clubs, and getting the train run on them… yea, freshmen in high school.

Fucked up I know, but that’s the way it goes.

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[quote]Majin wrote:
In any civilized city nobody would do shit about people kissing in public transportation. The most would be some old lady telling them to knock it off.

Nowhere in the article did it say that they started vigorously making out, it just said ‘kiss’. Then some bitch who hasn’t had sex in millenia complains and the driver gives em the boot without even telling them to behave themselves? That’s retarded. It’s like when shows get canceled because some uptight asshole does a mass mailing of complaint letters. [/quote]

They say a female passenger complained to the driver about the kissing and that the driver told them to “knock it off” and also called them "sickos

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No, I don’t think any official should be ruling on if my 14yo is kissing another 14yo, unless it’s during class, and when they should be paying attention.

This got way off topic with talk of pedophilia, or any kind of sex at all, regardless of what it might lead to.

Have any of you actually seen what 14-18 year olds do, or do you not remember when you were that old?

When was your first kiss? Not first lay, but first kiss?

Regardless of what the kiss was like, I’m sure you were under 18, and yes, it would be wrong if a grown man or woman attempted to kiss you like your peer did.

Two 14 year olds making out might be annoying to look at, and they can expect to get heckled by others about it, but I don’t think there should be rules enforced about it.

The fact that it was 2 females, or 2 males shouldn’t make a difference.

Some people might get offended by looking at a bodybuilder wearing cut-off shirts, and think all kinds of prejudice thoughts about it, but that doesn’t mean there should be a rule banning it.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I have a question for all the people who take the stance that the problem they see is that the people making out were “children”…

Where is the uproar that a bus driver “Stopped the bus along the street and forced them off.”??[/quote]

Gee, on the first page when I wrote, "[quote]Problem 2.) The idiot driving couldn’t see this potential problem coming a mile away considering the way our entire society seems to be working lately.[/quote]

I don’t think I have seen anyone make the comment that tossing them off the bus was a good idea. I think pushing “child abuse” for it is ridiculous, however, but it was a dumb move and obviously the shit hit the fan because of that really stupid move. If he had any sense at all he would have video taped it, sold it to a news station or pasted it on the internet on YouTube.