Girls Arrested for 'Cyberbullying'

H_factor · October 23, 2013, 1:27am

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
MOST victims of bullies have weak, liberal parents (who were probably bullied themselves) who don’t teach them to stand up for themselves and thus, become victims. Later in life they become teachers. This is why schools are the way they are now. Because they are run by weak, liberal faggots who can’t deal with reality and just want to be safe.[/quote]

This is one of the most baseless full out mentally challenged statements made on T-Nation in a while. Takes my breath away how mind numbingly fucking stupid this is. Although considering I live in a rural area in a completely Republican dominated region I will be happy to let administrators know that they don’t need to worry about any bullying since we have like two liberal parents in the county. FUCKING LIBERALS.

Considering the VAST majority of teachers and parents there are conservative that should save money. After all we have about 75% free and reduced lunches so we should be all about saving money. FUCKING LIBERALS.

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread? People like him are literally RUINING the country by assuming every single problem is because of “liberals” or “conservatives.” FUCKING LIBERALS.

Fucking hell this place makes me want to vomit sometimes. FUCKING LIBERALS.

smh_23 · October 23, 2013, 1:57am

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.

mmg_4 · October 23, 2013, 2:22am

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.[/quote]

mmg_4 · October 23, 2013, 2:10am

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.[/quote]

Seriously. I read his quotes and I find it quite astounding that someone can be so ignorant. Besides the fact hes bragging about beating people down with his “baseball bat” after he got out of prison like that makes him some kind of tough guy. Fucking coward.

as for the bullying, I have personal experience with it. I moved to a new town for middle school. It was a very small town with myopic, clique like mentality. I was almost immediately ostracized. My life was hell for 2 years until it got so bad I got jumped from behind by 3 kids and almost had my leg broken. Oh, I stood up for myself plenty of times during this period. In fact beat the shit out of 2 or 3 different guys. Guess what? when your so unpopular that basically the whole school has turned against you it dont matter much. And YES bullying can get that bad. The fucked up thing was when I started playing baseball in a local little league the spring of my 2nd year there, and everyone realized how good I was, the treatment I got turned a 180. Thinking back on it to this day and reading some of the comments in this thread, especially by angry chicken, make me realize that some of this is just…human nature. sick.

mmg_4 · October 23, 2013, 2:14am

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.[/quote]

Seriously. I read his quotes and I find it quite astounding that someone can be so ignorant. Besides the fact hes bragging about beating people down with his “baseball bat” after he got out of prison like that makes him some kind of tough guy. Fucking coward.

as for the bullying, I have personal experience with it. I moved to a new town for middle school. It was a very small town with myopic, clique like mentality. I was almost immediately ostracized. My life was hell for 2 years until it got so bad I got jumped from behind by 3 kids and almost had my leg broken. Oh, I stood up for myself plenty of times during this period. In fact beat the shit out of 2 or 3 different guys. Guess what? when your so unpopular that basically the whole school has turned against you it dont matter much. And YES bullying can get that bad. The fucked up thing was when I started playing baseball in a local little league the spring of my 2nd year there, and everyone realized how good I was, the treatment I got turned a 180. Thinking back on it to this day and reading some of the comments in this thread, especially by angry chicken, make me realize that some of this is just…human nature. sick.

mmg_4 · October 23, 2013, 2:15am

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.[/quote]

Seriously. I read his quotes and I find it quite astounding that someone can be so ignorant. Besides the fact hes bragging about beating people down with his “baseball bat” after he got out of prison like that makes him some kind of tough guy. Fucking coward.

as for the bullying, I have personal experience with it. I moved to a new town for middle school. It was a very small town with myopic, clique like mentality. I was almost immediately ostracized. My life was hell for 2 years until it got so bad I got jumped from behind by 3 kids and almost had my leg broken. Oh, I stood up for myself plenty of times during this period. In fact beat the shit out of 2 or 3 different guys. Guess what? when your so unpopular that basically the whole school has turned against you it dont matter much. And YES bullying can get that bad. The fucked up thing was when I started playing baseball in a local little league the spring of my 2nd year there, and everyone realized how good I was, the treatment I got turned a 180. Thinking back on it to this day and reading some of the comments in this thread, especially by angry chicken, make me realize that some of this is just…human nature. sick.

mmg_4 · October 23, 2013, 2:16am

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

Honestly is anyone making a list of the “holy shit is that what he actually thinks is the problem” stupid comments AC is making from thread to thread?
[/quote]

I haven’t got a list going, but I kind of wish I did right now. This one doesn’t hold a candle to the “hoping that Democratic voters die” poison he was excreting a couple weeks ago, but “weak, liberal faggots” is a full-on, grade-A sack-of-shit thing to say for a kid in middle school, let alone an adult.

And in a thread about bullying, no less. The irony.[/quote]

MaximusB · October 23, 2013, 2:36am

Magick,

I don’t have a perfect answer for you, this situation sucks all around.

I grew up in an environment where you punched first and asked questions later, I know that would not work today because the emasculation of males in our society is complete.

Schools will remove games like dodgeball or tag because it might cause an injury, but heaven forbid they intervene when a kid gets bullied.

csulli · October 23, 2013, 2:32pm

[quote]mmg_4 wrote:
hes bragging about beating people down with his “baseball bat” after he got out of prison like that makes him some kind of tough guy.[/quote]
No I think he was talking about how he would use his bat when outmatched against bullies when he was growing up, i.e. before his incarceration.

[quote]mmg_4 wrote:
In fact beat the shit out of 2 or 3 different guys.[/quote]
And here you are doing the same thing. Is it only tough when you do it or what? Is it cuz you didn’t use a bat? That makes it different?

zecarlo · October 23, 2013, 3:01pm

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

MOST victims of bullies have weak, liberal parents [/quote]

Yeah, this, just like everything else, is about political affiliation.

Jesus.[/quote]
Al Gore, John Kerry: Vietnam vets.
Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh: Draft dodgers.
Muhammad Ali: Conscientious objector.
One of my “liberal” English professors: Vietnam vet.
My Grandfather, the English professor: WW2 vet.
The Chinese protestor: who stood up to a tank.

Who exactly among the above are the cowards? [/quote]

You are.

Why did you call Muhammad Ali a “conscientious objector” while Rush, Rove, and Cheney are “draft dodgers” ?

Are they not guilty of the same thing, except that one of them is a brotha ? [/quote]

No. The difference is, on the one hand, saying you won’t fight, outright and in public and with given reasons as to why, and on the other hand, trying to get away with not fighting without anybody noticing while ostensibly supporting the war.

Another difference would be that one of them didn’t want anything to do with war when he was young and still felt that same way when he was old, whereas they others didn’t want anything to do with war when they were young and then didn’t seem to mind the whole war thing when they got older and were too fat and decrepit to even be considered for military service.

For the record, none of those mentioned were actually “draft dodgers.” But they did all finds way to get out of combat service, as did many other men.[/quote]

Just like all the liberals in College. Guys the rules are the rules. My Father-in-law chose not to go to college and he was drafted and went to Vietnam.

You guys are saying Cheney, Limbaugh, etc got the rules changed just for them. This is a LIE. The Draft was a lottery, and the way to get your name lower in the lottery was to do certain things.

Zecarlo LIED and he has been called on his LIE. Get over it.
[/quote]
How is it a lie? Cheney did not dodge the draft? Is a deferment (5 of them!)not a form of dodging? Is getting a college deferment and then dropping out of college not dodging? Would it make you feel better if I had written draft avoiders(I know avoiders isn’t a word)? As someone who served I look at chickenhawks with a more critical eye. The idea that they would send me to do what they were too good to do themselves doesn’t sit well.

Ali flat out said he didn’t agree with the war. Is, or was, he a weak/sissy/liberal/coward? I don’t know if I would call someone who had the courage to step into the ring with George Foreman a pussy.

Of course you miss the entire point and that is the whole idea that somehow liberals are innately cowardly while conservatives are Delta Force Samurai level badasses. An ass pimple kept tough talking Rush from serving. If these conservatives are so tough then you would think they would have volunteered to fight the enemies of our nation.

Maiden3_16 · October 23, 2013, 3:29pm

[quote]GivehertheD wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
But bullying is not–nor should it be–a crime. [/quote]

Wut?

Tormenting a girl until she kills herself is a crime, whether you’re a child or adult.

I think this sends a good precedent. If somebody kills themselves because of your actions you need to accept responsibility.[/quote]

So if you break up with a girl and she kills herself, you’re at fault? She killed herself because of you’re actions right? C’mon. The girl killed herself. Nobody forced her to do it.

Maiden3_16 · October 23, 2013, 3:30pm

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]GivehertheD wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
But bullying is not–nor should it be–a crime. [/quote]

Wut?

Tormenting a girl until she kills herself is a crime, whether you’re a child or adult.

I think this sends a good precedent. If somebody kills themselves because of your actions you need to accept responsibility.[/quote]

She killed herself based on her own decision and action. The girl said ‘go drink bleach and die’. I tell people to ‘kiss my ass’ several times a week. If they do actually end up kissing it was I really the one who made that decision for them?

People kill themselves because they lose their job. Should the manager who fired them be responsible? People kill themselves because of breakups. Should the Ex really be responsible for it?

I am not condoning bullying, but come on. Suicide is a personal decision, choice and action. [/quote]

I agree.

Maiden3_16 · October 23, 2013, 3:39pm

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Who committed the suicide? You can’t force someone to kill themselves. Just because I tell someone to jump off a cliff does not make me responsible for them actually doing it.
[/quote]

So if I stabbed someone in the leg, I’m not responsible for the individual eventually bleeding out and dying? I mean, the person clearly failed in his/her responsibility in stopping the bleeding with his/her lack of proper medical care.

What if I didn’t stab with the intention to kill?
[/quote]

No. Obviously if you stab someone in the leg you are directly responsible for them bleeding out. Horrible example to argue your case. Doesn’t matter if you stabbed with the intention to kill, you stabbed to injure and that led to death. You caused severe PHYSICAL harm that led to death. I hope you can see the difference here.

If I told you to stab yourself causing you to bleed out, that’s your fault. I didn’t stab you, YOU did. Same thing in this case. The suspects did not push the victim off the cliff, she jumped on her own causing her death.[/quote]

So you don’t believe people are capable of inflicting mental injuries/trauma on other people? That everything that is spoken is effectively meaningless in its own right?
[/quote]

Sure I think people can cause another to have mental trauma. Does that directly CAUSE the death of that person? No. The cause of death for this girl was probably a broken neck which was a direct result of her actions.

zecarlo · October 23, 2013, 3:47pm

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Who committed the suicide? You can’t force someone to kill themselves. Just because I tell someone to jump off a cliff does not make me responsible for them actually doing it.
[/quote]

So if I stabbed someone in the leg, I’m not responsible for the individual eventually bleeding out and dying? I mean, the person clearly failed in his/her responsibility in stopping the bleeding with his/her lack of proper medical care.

What if I didn’t stab with the intention to kill?
[/quote]

No. Obviously if you stab someone in the leg you are directly responsible for them bleeding out. Horrible example to argue your case. Doesn’t matter if you stabbed with the intention to kill, you stabbed to injure and that led to death. You caused severe PHYSICAL harm that led to death. I hope you can see the difference here.

If I told you to stab yourself causing you to bleed out, that’s your fault. I didn’t stab you, YOU did. Same thing in this case. The suspects did not push the victim off the cliff, she jumped on her own causing her death.[/quote]

So you don’t believe people are capable of inflicting mental injuries/trauma on other people? That everything that is spoken is effectively meaningless in its own right?
[/quote]

Sure I think people can cause another to have mental trauma. Does that directly CAUSE the death of that person? No. The cause of death for this girl was probably a broken neck which was a direct result of her actions.[/quote]
But what if someone knows they are causing emotional and/or mental trauma, and in fact what if that is that person’s goal? There is a difference between committing an act that somehow factors into a suicide and committing an act (repeatedly) knowing it could (and even wanting it to)result in suicide. This is about bullying so to include getting fired or whatever makes no sense and goes off on a tangent that no one would even have an issue with anyway.

Varqanir · October 23, 2013, 3:50pm

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

MOST victims of bullies have weak, liberal parents [/quote]

Yeah, this, just like everything else, is about political affiliation.

Jesus.[/quote]
Al Gore, John Kerry: Vietnam vets.
Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh: Draft dodgers.
Muhammad Ali: Conscientious objector.
One of my “liberal” English professors: Vietnam vet.
My Grandfather, the English professor: WW2 vet.
The Chinese protestor: who stood up to a tank.

Who exactly among the above are the cowards? [/quote]

You are.

Why did you call Muhammad Ali a “conscientious objector” while Rush, Rove, and Cheney are “draft dodgers” ?

Are they not guilty of the same thing, except that one of them is a brotha ? [/quote]

No. The difference is, on the one hand, saying you won’t fight, outright and in public and with given reasons as to why, and on the other hand, trying to get away with not fighting without anybody noticing while ostensibly supporting the war.

Another difference would be that one of them didn’t want anything to do with war when he was young and still felt that same way when he was old, whereas they others didn’t want anything to do with war when they were young and then didn’t seem to mind the whole war thing when they got older and were too fat and decrepit to even be considered for military service.

For the record, none of those mentioned were actually “draft dodgers.” But they did all finds way to get out of combat service, as did many other men.[/quote]

Just like all the liberals in College. Guys the rules are the rules. My Father-in-law chose not to go to college and he was drafted and went to Vietnam.

You guys are saying Cheney, Limbaugh, etc got the rules changed just for them. This is a LIE. The Draft was a lottery, and the way to get your name lower in the lottery was to do certain things.

Zecarlo LIED and he has been called on his LIE. Get over it.
[/quote]

What are you talking about? “You guys are saying [they] got the rules changed just for them.” I never said anything of the sort. I said exactly, and I mean exactly what happened. I literally wrote that none of the people mentioned had been draft dodgers.

The point is that, no, it’s not the same thing to come out and say you’re not fighting in some war that you think is fucking stupid, and these are the reasons why, and fuck you if you don’t like it; and it’s another thing to use the rules that exist to avoid combat, and then turn around and orchestrate wars later in your life. This is not a legal assessment, it’s a moral one.[/quote]

I am with him on this one.

Chicken hawks disgust me.

Teddy Roosevelts reaction to “rich guys dont fight in wars” was “fuck you, I am going”.

And he went.[/quote]

I see yalls point. But lets look at this from my perspective.

My Father did not go to Vietnam nor was he even eligible for the draft. My father was an only child, and his father died from a WWII related injury when he was 11 years old. So if what you are saying is true, my father was a chicken shit because he decided not to volunteer to go to Vietnam. My father picked up his friends from the airport when the libtards were spitting on the vets that were coming home.

Sorry guys it is more of a chicken shit to stay at home and spit on and call vets baby killers, than to orchestrate a war because the US including the entire Congress (Republicans and Democrats) voted for said war.[/quote]

Big difference, dmaddox, between a “chicken shit” and a “chicken hawk”.

If one’s circumstances or moral principles cause one to be unable or unwilling to go fight in a war, it does not follow that one is a coward.

However, if one vociferously advocates war but is unwilling to personally participate, or contrives to keep one’s own children from having to participate, this is called being a “chicken hawk”. Hawk because one advocates fighting, chicken because one won’t fight himself. Whether this makes one a coward or not is irrelevant, but it would certainly make one a hypocrite, which is what Orion is despising.

csulli · October 23, 2013, 3:53pm

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
But what if someone knows they are causing emotional and/or mental trauma, and in fact what if that is that person’s goal? There is a difference between committing an act that somehow factors into a suicide and committing an act (repeatedly) knowing it could (and even wanting it to)result in suicide. This is about bullying so to include getting fired or whatever makes no sense and goes off on a tangent that no one would even have an issue with anyway. [/quote]
No one can MAKE you feel or do anything through words alone. If someone bullies you relentlessly, like it or not, you make a choice as to how you allow that to affect you. I’m not saying the girls didn’t commit crimes via stalking and harassment, but at the end of the day the girl still killed herself.

zecarlo · October 23, 2013, 4:04pm

[quote]Varqanir wrote: