Girls Arrested for 'Cyberbullying'

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]kamui wrote:

Cyberbullying is no doubt wrong, but do you think it is deserving of a felony charges?
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Honestly, i don’t know.

What i know is this :

As a teacher, i can deal with good old “real life” bullying :
I usually see it well before it happens. After a few hours in a class, i know who may be bullied and who will be bully.
Once it happened, all i have to do is to say a few dry, cutting sentences with a barytone voice and frowned eyebrows.
And it’s over.

With cyberbullying, there is nothing i can do.

We need, at the very least, to be able to stop the viral spread of pictures and messages.
Which means we need to be able to access a few phones and computers.

Not sure we can do that without investigating something.

That being said, I don’t know the US legal system well enough to be more specific.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Violence is the answer, it worked for me. [/quote]

Sure, if there’s the stereotypical single bully surrounded by his/her lackeys like the bullies of old.

But that isn’t the case anymore. EVERYONE is the bully if you’re the target.

Are you going to go and beat the crap out of every person in your class?[/quote]

You don’t have to beat the crap out of all of them, just beat one of them, beat the shit out of them, and do it publicly.

If you beat one, the others will rethink if they want to continue.

Bullies only bully people they know who will not react. The moment you stop acting like a bitch, you won’t be treated like one.

Schools will never get involved, (I can attest to this as a kid), the fastest and most effective way to end bullying is to pop that mother fucker hard.

Even if you get your ass kicked, the bully will still respect you enough to leave you alone.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Violence is the answer, it worked for me. [/quote]

Sure, if there’s the stereotypical single bully surrounded by his/her lackeys like the bullies of old.

But that isn’t the case anymore. EVERYONE is the bully if you’re the target.

Are you going to go and beat the crap out of every person in your class?[/quote]

You don’t have to beat the crap out of all of them, just beat one of them, beat the shit out of them, and do it publicly.

If you beat one, the others will rethink if they want to continue.

Bullies only bully people they know who will not react. The moment you stop acting like a bitch, you won’t be treated like one.

Schools will never get involved, (I can attest to this as a kid), the fastest and most effective way to end bullying is to pop that mother fucker hard.

Even if you get your ass kicked, the bully will still respect you enough to leave you alone. [/quote]

But all of this assumes that there is a singular bully who is the source of your torment. And that if you confront him/her, then either he/she will stop tormenting you, or everyone who tormented you because of said singular bully will no longer torment you.

But what if the source of the torment is a piece of picture or information about you, what then? What if it’s effectively character assassination, in the way that kamui discussed above?

Do you go beat up the guy who started it? But wouldn’t that merely just add fuel to the flame? “Oh, that guy is so thin-skinned that he can’t even handle X!”

And knowing how incredibly evil teens are, I have no doubt that’ll be what happens if someone responds with force to bullies.

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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]kamui wrote:

Cyberbullying is no doubt wrong, but do you think it is deserving of a felony charges?
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If it takes the form of a felony crime? Yes. I don’t know the specifics of this situation, but it isn’t difficult to imagine that in a case as severe as this, laws could well have been broken.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Violence is the answer, it worked for me. [/quote]

Sure, if there’s the stereotypical single bully surrounded by his/her lackeys like the bullies of old.

But that isn’t the case anymore. EVERYONE is the bully if you’re the target.

Are you going to go and beat the crap out of every person in your class?[/quote]

You don’t have to beat the crap out of all of them, just beat one of them, beat the shit out of them, and do it publicly.

If you beat one, the others will rethink if they want to continue.

Bullies only bully people they know who will not react. The moment you stop acting like a bitch, you won’t be treated like one.

Schools will never get involved, (I can attest to this as a kid), the fastest and most effective way to end bullying is to pop that mother fucker hard.

Even if you get your ass kicked, the bully will still respect you enough to leave you alone. [/quote]

But all of this assumes that there is a singular bully who is the source of your torment. And that if you confront him/her, then either he/she will stop tormenting you, or everyone who tormented you because of said singular bully will no longer torment you.

But what if the source of the torment is a piece of picture or information about you, what then? What if it’s effectively character assassination, in the way that kamui discussed above?

Do you go beat up the guy who started it? But wouldn’t that merely just add fuel to the flame? “Oh, that guy is so thin-skinned that he can’t even handle X!”

And knowing how incredibly evil teens are, I have no doubt that’ll be what happens if someone responds with force to bullies.[/quote]

I agree this is a tough situation, but I would confront the person starting the trouble.

Would you rather be called thin-skinned, or would you rather be bullied ? I would prefer the former personally.

I got alot of shit as a kid, because I did not fit in with American kids, and I did not speak English very well. I know it’s the PC thing to do by saying “we should all sit down and talk it out”, but I have never seen that work.

The moment I popped the ring-leader, I was left alone. Did people say things to me or about me ? Probably, but never to my face. But I never got bullied any further.

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I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.[/quote]

I agree that bullying is pretty much a part of life and helps develop thick skin but with the increasing interconnection of people the victim has no refuge. To suggest that they stay off the internet is futile because the internet is not the sole source of the bullying, for example it happens via text messaging as well. That is the reason that stalking charges come up. Suggesting that the kids beat the shit out of their bully will not work in most cases either. The kids who were bullied when I grew up would not have been able to kick anyone’s ass and attempting to would add more fuel to the fire for a bully. I have no problem with bullying in general but there is a line that can be crossed where it is no longer just bullying.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Cyberbullying is no doubt wrong, but do you think it is deserving of a felony charges?
[/quote]

They’re not charging her for bullying, but rather for stalking that led to her committing suicide.

Obviously they’ll have to prove in court that everything the girl suffered is equivalent to stalking, and that in of itself can lead to interesting development of precedent if this succeeds, but they seem to be trying to make the case that this goes beyond simple bullying.[/quote]

Who committed the suicide? You can’t force someone to kill themselves. Just because I tell someone to jump off a cliff does not make me responsible for them actually doing it.

Do you think these girls would be charged for stalking if the girl didn’t commit suicide?

edit: I agree if they are convicted of a felony it would lead to an interesting precedent, and an unfortunate one imo.

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.[/quote]

I agree that bullying is pretty much a part of life and helps develop thick skin but with the increasing interconnection of people the victim has no refuge. To suggest that they stay off the internet is futile because the internet is not the sole source of the bullying, for example it happens via text messaging as well. That is the reason that stalking charges come up. Suggesting that the kids beat the shit out of their bully will not work in most cases either. The kids who were bullied when I grew up would not have been able to kick anyone’s ass and attempting to would add more fuel to the fire for a bully. I have no problem with bullying in general but there is a line that can be crossed where it is no longer just bullying. [/quote]

If the “victim” can’t beat the bully fairly, then get a Louisville Slugger and go to town. I still have an old aluminum bat from my “childhood”. If it were ever to be forensically examined, I’m certain that LOTS of DNA would be discovered.

If the “victim” can’t muster the testicular fortitude to stand up for themselves, then fuck 'em, they deserve what they get. Life isn’t fair. You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The “state” cannot protect you. The ONLY person that can force others to respect you is YOU (or an older brother). The only way my younger brother made it through to adulthood unscathed is because “dude, that’s ANGRY CHICKEN’S brother - don’t fuck with him, that muther fucker is crazy”. I made it VERY clear that I was the only one allowed to beat my little brother’s ass. Even when I was in prison and he was still in HS, people were afraid that I’d make a phone call. Why? Because my aluminum bat and I paid an “uncomfortable” visit to anyone who fucked with me.

For the record, I still don’t buy the concept of “cyber bullying”. You referenced text messaging… Guess what my reply to THAT is? TAKE THE FUCKING PHONE AWAY! If your child is not able to handle the responsibility of a phone or a facebook (which you are SUPPOSED to be 18 to sign up for), than you don’t give them access to those privileges. This case is parenting failure (for ALL of the parents involved). How can you NOT know what your kid is doing online?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.[/quote]

I agree that bullying is pretty much a part of life and helps develop thick skin but with the increasing interconnection of people the victim has no refuge. To suggest that they stay off the internet is futile because the internet is not the sole source of the bullying, for example it happens via text messaging as well. That is the reason that stalking charges come up. Suggesting that the kids beat the shit out of their bully will not work in most cases either. The kids who were bullied when I grew up would not have been able to kick anyone’s ass and attempting to would add more fuel to the fire for a bully. I have no problem with bullying in general but there is a line that can be crossed where it is no longer just bullying. [/quote]

If the “victim” can’t beat the bully fairly, then get a Louisville Slugger and go to town. I still have an old aluminum bat from my “childhood”. If it were ever to be forensically examined, I’m certain that LOTS of DNA would be discovered.
[/quote]

Hydrogenperoxide and a piece of cloth.

Be sure to were gloves.

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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Who committed the suicide? You can’t force someone to kill themselves. Just because I tell someone to jump off a cliff does not make me responsible for them actually doing it.
[/quote]

So if I stabbed someone in the leg, I’m not responsible for the individual eventually bleeding out and dying? I mean, the person clearly failed in his/her responsibility in stopping the bleeding with his/her lack of proper medical care.

What if I didn’t stab with the intention to kill?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.[/quote]

I agree that bullying is pretty much a part of life and helps develop thick skin but with the increasing interconnection of people the victim has no refuge. To suggest that they stay off the internet is futile because the internet is not the sole source of the bullying, for example it happens via text messaging as well. That is the reason that stalking charges come up. Suggesting that the kids beat the shit out of their bully will not work in most cases either. The kids who were bullied when I grew up would not have been able to kick anyone’s ass and attempting to would add more fuel to the fire for a bully. I have no problem with bullying in general but there is a line that can be crossed where it is no longer just bullying. [/quote]

If the “victim” can’t beat the bully fairly, then get a Louisville Slugger and go to town. I still have an old aluminum bat from my “childhood”. If it were ever to be forensically examined, I’m certain that LOTS of DNA would be discovered.

If the “victim” can’t muster the testicular fortitude to stand up for themselves, then fuck 'em, they deserve what they get. Life isn’t fair. You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The “state” cannot protect you. The ONLY person that can force others to respect you is YOU (or an older brother). The only way my younger brother made it through to adulthood unscathed is because “dude, that’s ANGRY CHICKEN’S brother - don’t fuck with him, that muther fucker is crazy”. I made it VERY clear that I was the only one allowed to beat my little brother’s ass. Even when I was in prison and he was still in HS, people were afraid that I’d make a phone call. Why? Because my aluminum bat and I paid an “uncomfortable” visit to anyone who fucked with me.

For the record, I still don’t buy the concept of “cyber bullying”. You referenced text messaging… Guess what my reply to THAT is? TAKE THE FUCKING PHONE AWAY! If your child is not able to handle the responsibility of a phone or a facebook (which you are SUPPOSED to be 18 to sign up for), than you don’t give them access to those privileges. This case is parenting failure (for ALL of the parents involved). How can you NOT know what your kid is doing online?[/quote]

I may be misunderstanding what you are saying but you appear to be blaming the victim or the victim’s family for what may be a case of stalking. What do you suppose happens to a kid who uses a bat to solve their problems? This seems unlikely to do anything but create a whole new category of problems.

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I have a very easy solution to “cyber bullying”: DON’T GET ON THE COMPUTER!!!

Imagine that! Stay off facebook. Or ignore it. Or, if all else fails, beat the fuck out of whoever is starting it. As Max has correctly pointed out, if there is more than one, it really doesn’t matter. If you beat the living shit out of ONE asshole, the other assholes tend to back up. At the very most, you may have to dish out two asskickings.

This is the direct result of all of this “politically correct” bullshit. Kids getting suspended for making a “gun” with their fingers. They’ve vilified violence to the point where a kid feels like they cant defend themselves. Which is absolutely wrong. Sometimes, kids need a good asskicking if they can’t behave themselves.

Common sense SHOULD prevail here, but I’m sure there are a bunch of recent studies conducted by liberal fucktards who will say that ANY violence is BAAAAADDDD for children. Good luck raising teenagers with out the fear of consequences. Let me know how that works out for ya.[/quote]

I agree that bullying is pretty much a part of life and helps develop thick skin but with the increasing interconnection of people the victim has no refuge. To suggest that they stay off the internet is futile because the internet is not the sole source of the bullying, for example it happens via text messaging as well. That is the reason that stalking charges come up. Suggesting that the kids beat the shit out of their bully will not work in most cases either. The kids who were bullied when I grew up would not have been able to kick anyone’s ass and attempting to would add more fuel to the fire for a bully. I have no problem with bullying in general but there is a line that can be crossed where it is no longer just bullying. [/quote]

If the “victim” can’t beat the bully fairly, then get a Louisville Slugger and go to town. I still have an old aluminum bat from my “childhood”. If it were ever to be forensically examined, I’m certain that LOTS of DNA would be discovered.

If the “victim” can’t muster the testicular fortitude to stand up for themselves, then fuck 'em, they deserve what they get. Life isn’t fair. You are not entitled to ANYTHING. The “state” cannot protect you. The ONLY person that can force others to respect you is YOU (or an older brother). The only way my younger brother made it through to adulthood unscathed is because “dude, that’s ANGRY CHICKEN’S brother - don’t fuck with him, that muther fucker is crazy”. I made it VERY clear that I was the only one allowed to beat my little brother’s ass. Even when I was in prison and he was still in HS, people were afraid that I’d make a phone call. Why? Because my aluminum bat and I paid an “uncomfortable” visit to anyone who fucked with me.

For the record, I still don’t buy the concept of “cyber bullying”. You referenced text messaging… Guess what my reply to THAT is? TAKE THE FUCKING PHONE AWAY! If your child is not able to handle the responsibility of a phone or a facebook (which you are SUPPOSED to be 18 to sign up for), than you don’t give them access to those privileges. This case is parenting failure (for ALL of the parents involved). How can you NOT know what your kid is doing online?[/quote]

I may be misunderstanding what you are saying but you appear to be blaming the victim or the victim’s family for what may be a case of stalking. What do you suppose happens to a kid who uses a bat to solve their problems? This seems unlikely to do anything but create a whole new category of problems.[/quote]

I blame this whole scenario (BOTH SIDES) on lack of parental boundaries. As a parent of a teenager, I think I can speak about parenting - or lack thereof. You need to control your child’s online behavior. Period. BOTH parents failed to do so. You need to control your child’s cell phone activity - including texts and other apps. BOTH parents failed to do so.

If your child is a “victim” of someone who is not doing anything to your child PHYSICALLY, then you really need to get creative and find a way to “encourage” them to stop. Or the OTHER child’s parents need to. There are MANY creative, legal, non-violent ways to encourage people to leave you alone. There are even MORE violent ways to encourage people to leave you alone.

Soon, schools will be charging kids who make a “gun” with their hands with felonies. It’s getting pretty fucking ridiculous.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Who committed the suicide? You can’t force someone to kill themselves. Just because I tell someone to jump off a cliff does not make me responsible for them actually doing it.
[/quote]

So if I stabbed someone in the leg, I’m not responsible for the individual eventually bleeding out and dying? I mean, the person clearly failed in his/her responsibility in stopping the bleeding with his/her lack of proper medical care.

What if I didn’t stab with the intention to kill?
[/quote]

No. Obviously if you stab someone in the leg you are directly responsible for them bleeding out. Horrible example to argue your case. Doesn’t matter if you stabbed with the intention to kill, you stabbed to injure and that led to death. You caused severe PHYSICAL harm that led to death. I hope you can see the difference here.

If I told you to stab yourself causing you to bleed out, that’s your fault. I didn’t stab you, YOU did. Same thing in this case. The suspects did not push the victim off the cliff, she jumped on her own causing her death.

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This is interesting timing because I coincidentally just watched that Bully documentary on Netflix this weekend. It’s some sad, sick stuff that these kids do. One girl came out and her whole town shunned her and her family.

The problem with what’s happening here is everyone is placing themselves in the victim’s shoes, which isn’t necessarily fair. While you may have been bulled and resolved it with violence, some don’t have that option. One of the victims in the video was born after 20 weeks gestation and has some obvious physical and mental deficits, not to mention he looks different. I would question his ability to fight back with a gun, let alone a bat. Furthermore, depending on where you’re from, the cops won’t care if you’re being bullied if you hit someone with a bat; you’re going to jail. Even if you get the bullies off your back they just move to someone else weaker until some poor kid who wasn’t hurting anyone feels like they have to end their life.

My solution:

Football, baseball, wrestling, etc coaches need to make a deal with their players that if they see this sort of behavior that they’ll put an end to it. I think bullies would respond more positively to 60 or so athletes approach them and tell them they better back the fuck off. The coaches could also easily find out if their players are being bullies and act accordingly.

As far as girl bullies, I have no idea. I suppose the same thing might work.

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I think some of you are very old because you have no clues about what you are advising? Violence? OK, so someone beats a bully up with a bat and then what? He/she gets arrested for assault, attempted murder etc., then there is a potential civil suit. But I suppose the bullying in prison is easier to take.

Also, if you think an ass beating will end things you are wrong. The bully will come back with friends. They will come back with a weapon. It’s not like the good old days where two kids fought and afterward became best friends. This is especially when we are dealing with girls. They can be meaner, nastier and hold a grudge longer than any boy. They can be extremely vain and self-centered these days so they have to “win” no matter what. I worked in an inner city school and 90% of the fights were between girls. And every fight ended with the loser talking about jumping the “winner” with her friends. A lot of this bullying is a group of kids vs one kid. The idea that a group of bullies will somehow not follow the pack mentality when it comes to violence is just wrong. And if anyone thinks it’s just an internet thing they would be wrong there as well. Cyber bullying is just an extension and continuation of the bullying that goes on in the “real” world. Like I said, a lot of you are old and out of touch. With some of these girls if you were to tell them they were leading a girl to suicide they seriously would not care. It’s their objective. But hey, that’s what we get for letting reality tv like the Kardashians raise our kids.

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It is tragic. The girls who bullied are messed up in the head, very aparant with the FB post one girl made post death about how she admits she was one of the reasons the girl took her life but still doesnt give a fuck.

That being said, accepting the role of a victim and taking your own life is a choice. Nobody forces you to do so to escape your circumstance even if they create the poor circumstance. Suicide as a result of “bullying” is a cowards exit and being a victim in it of it self is a cowardice choice. Cant have a bully without a victim and you cant be a victim if you fight and confront your “bully”.

Understand confrontation and ‘fight’ does not mean resort to violence.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
It is tragic. The girls who bullied are messed up in the head, very aparant with the FB post one girl made post death about how she admits she was one of the reasons the girl took her life but still doesnt give a fuck.

That being said, accepting the role of a victim and taking your own life is a choice. Nobody forces you to do so to escape your circumstance even if they create the poor circumstance. Suicide as a result of “bullying” is a cowards exit and being a victim in it of it self is a cowardice choice. Cant have a bully without a victim and you cant be a victim if you fight and confront your “bully”.

Understand confrontation and ‘fight’ does not mean resort to violence. [/quote]
You do know you are talking about a child. You also don’t know what that child’s life and/or upbringing was like. Confront the bully? How? This isn’t Leave it to Beaver land anymore. How do you confront a sociopath? Some of them actually want a confrontation.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:
I think some of you are very old because you have no clues about what you are advising? Violence? OK, so someone beats a bully up with a bat and then what? He/she gets arrested for assault, attempted murder etc., then there is a potential civil suit. But I suppose the bullying in prison is easier to take.

Also, if you think an ass beating will end things you are wrong. The bully will come back with friends. They will come back with a weapon. It’s not like the good old days where two kids fought and afterward became best friends. This is especially when we are dealing with girls. They can be meaner, nastier and hold a grudge longer than any boy. They can be extremely vain and self-centered these days so they have to “win” no matter what. I worked in an inner city school and 90% of the fights were between girls. And every fight ended with the loser talking about jumping the “winner” with her friends. A lot of this bullying is a group of kids vs one kid. The idea that a group of bullies will somehow not follow the pack mentality when it comes to violence is just wrong. And if anyone thinks it’s just an internet thing they would be wrong there as well. Cyber bullying is just an extension and continuation of the bullying that goes on in the “real” world. Like I said, a lot of you are old and out of touch. With some of these girls if you were to tell them they were leading a girl to suicide they seriously would not care. It’s their objective. But hey, that’s what we get for letting reality tv like the Kardashians raise our kids.

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I disagree.

You have to understand the bully mentality, one who preys on the idea of someone who is passive and won’t defend themselves.

Bullies want easy targets, because they are chicken-shits themselves, they will move on to some other target who will put up less or no fight at all. 99% of the time, if you confront the bully, he will shit his pants.

They will not change, not unless you make them. They need to know that they will feel real consequences from their actions, and not in the form of taking away their iPhone.

I know it doesn’t sound warm and cozy, but there is no other way.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
It is tragic. The girls who bullied are messed up in the head, very aparant with the FB post one girl made post death about how she admits she was one of the reasons the girl took her life but still doesnt give a fuck.

That being said, accepting the role of a victim and taking your own life is a choice. Nobody forces you to do so to escape your circumstance even if they create the poor circumstance. Suicide as a result of “bullying” is a cowards exit and being a victim in it of it self is a cowardice choice. Cant have a bully without a victim and you cant be a victim if you fight and confront your “bully”.

Understand confrontation and ‘fight’ does not mean resort to violence. [/quote]
You do know you are talking about a child. You also don’t know what that child’s life and/or upbringing was like. Confront the bully? How? This isn’t Leave it to Beaver land anymore. How do you confront a sociopath? Some of them actually want a confrontation. [/quote]

How do you confront a sociopath ? The way they want them to. Call them out on their shit, right to their face.

If they want to get physical, then let it happen, and wear their ass out. Beat them til you find dark meat.

You have then de-mystified the idea of fighting and getting physical, once they realize that real punches hurt versus virtual punches envisioned in their minds, it makes them reboot their thought process.

If you show a sociopath that there are no consequences to their actions, they will continue their behavior. You are not going to verbally convince them, they do not understand remorse or empathy, because that part of the brain doesn’t work.

Beat your neighborhood bully, it tastes great and has less calories.