Girlfriend Wants to Get Married, Dilemma

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol Raj can’t bag a 9 so it’s the feminists and their destruction of the family to blame.[/quote]

lol Debra wont answer his question, but still gets that in there.

Classy.

How many children do you have?

Because its cool that you are happy and whatnot, unfortunately, enough of your kind of happiness and a society collapses, especially if at its core is a glorified Ponzi scheme like in Canada.

There are two ways this can go down.

Either, there is no immigration, then the welfare state collapses, or immigrant women who start at 18 to get children and average about 4 will outcompete women who have 1-2 in their 30s.

You are more than capable to do the math yourself, your society is doomed.

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LOL Come off it.

This has become a thread about how to get pussy just like all the thread’s you’ve hijacked. It’s laughable to suggest it’s about the betterment of society. Yes really classy.

But the world is doomed. Hahaha sorry but your dramatics only making it funnier.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol Raj can’t bag a 9 so it’s the feminists and their destruction of the family to blame.[/quote]

lol Debra wont answer his question, but still gets that in there.

Classy.

How many children do you have?

Because its cool that you are happy and whatnot, unfortunately, enough of your kind of happiness and a society collapses, especially if at its core is a glorified Ponzi scheme like in Canada.

There are two ways this can go down.

Either, there is no immigration, then the welfare state collapses, or immigrant women who start at 18 to get children and average about 4 will outcompete women who have 1-2 in their 30s.

You are more than capable to do the math yourself, your society is doomed.

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This really is an issue modern feminists need to face, but appear unable to.

What’s ironic is that the replacement population is comprised of cultures that are unsupportive of or even hostile to the ideals that modern feminists have worked so hard to enshrine.

Tell us why this is not so, if it isn’t. [/quote]

Tell me again what specifically I need to face? Because where I am sitting I feel like I’m facing a pretty decent and happy future.

It’s interesting that modern feminists are accused of all the hostility and resentment yet here you guys are getting your knickers bent out of shape because I don’t want to breed. Well sorry that’s freedom! I support both yours and mine!

[quote]orion wrote:

Well, if you want to look into it, googling “feminist shaming tactics” should get results.

The instinctive female go tos are public shaming, basically a form of scolding or an attempt to emasculate the opponent (cant get laid, gay, lives in moms basement, cant pull 9s, creativity bonus there).

Its all quite primitive really.

So yes, it can be seen as an attempt to treat a man as a child from the get go, a primitive form of projection to force him into this role, or to emasculate him first, infantilize him second.

From a broader perspective, women rarely argue the point and even those that do somehow cannot resist the urge to go the social route to “win” an argument, meaning lower her opponents status so long until he gives up.

Its easy to deal with that though, you simply do the same thing when she starts, just better and a little bit more out there.

Once she has accepted that you are willing and able to go a lot farther than she is willing to go, such things tend to stop. [/quote]

Orion,

Thank you.

I see it.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So the abysmal birth rates of feminist countries, the exploding divorce rate, the endless amount of single moms (guess what type of families murderers come from?), men’s loss of interest in marriage are things you can easily ignore? Your wife and all feminists have done an excellent job of destroying female happiness too. It’s been in constant decline since the 70s… Coincidence huh?

How did these problems just happen to arise once feminism took off?
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I’d like to see this answered, too. This is NOT an economic phenomenon. [/quote]

I don’t really see a problem. I know plenty of single parents who do a great job and are supported by their exes. I don’t see an issue with men and marriage either. I’ve had a few proposals. I’ve been with my partner for almost 20 years and I will be with him until one of us dies. I’m pretty happy with my life. I have a great job, I’m surrounded by people I love and I have the wealth and freedom to pursue many hobbies, including competitive weightlifting and visual arts. The kids I know look up to me and I’m proud of the role model I am.

Sorry but I just don’t see the gloom and doom.

[quote]debraD wrote:

I don’t really see a problem. I know plenty of single parents who do a great job and are supported by their exes. I don’t see an issue with men and marriage either. I’ve had a few proposals. I’ve been with my partner for almost 20 years and I will be with him until one of us dies. I’m pretty happy with my life. I have a great job, I’m surrounded by people I love and I have the wealth and freedom to pursue many hobbies, including competitive weightlifting and visual arts. The kids I know look up to me and I’m proud of the role model I am.

Sorry but I just don’t see the gloom and doom.
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Well so long as you’re happy

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So the abysmal birth rates of feminist countries, the exploding divorce rate, the endless amount of single moms (guess what type of families murderers come from?), men’s loss of interest in marriage are things you can easily ignore? Your wife and all feminists have done an excellent job of destroying female happiness too. It’s been in constant decline since the 70s… Coincidence huh?

How did these problems just happen to arise once feminism took off?
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I’d like to see this answered, too. This is NOT an economic phenomenon. [/quote]

I don’t really see a problem. I know plenty of single parents who do a great job and are supported by their exes. I don’t see an issue with men and marriage either. I’ve had a few proposals. I’ve been with my partner for almost 20 years and I will be with him until one of us dies. I’m pretty happy with my life. I have a great job, I’m surrounded by people I love and I have the wealth and freedom to pursue many hobbies, including competitive weightlifting and visual arts. The kids I know look up to me and I’m proud of the role model I am.

Sorry but I just don’t see the gloom and doom.
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Well of course you don’t. You’re enjoying the benefits of the good life on someone else’s tab.

Unless you want to argue that this demographic trend is not a reality.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
So the abysmal birth rates of feminist countries, the exploding divorce rate, the endless amount of single moms (guess what type of families murderers come from?), men’s loss of interest in marriage are things you can easily ignore? Your wife and all feminists have done an excellent job of destroying female happiness too. It’s been in constant decline since the 70s… Coincidence huh?

How did these problems just happen to arise once feminism took off?
[/quote]

I’d like to see this answered, too. This is NOT an economic phenomenon. [/quote]

I don’t really see a problem. I know plenty of single parents who do a great job and are supported by their exes. I don’t see an issue with men and marriage either. I’ve had a few proposals. I’ve been with my partner for almost 20 years and I will be with him until one of us dies. I’m pretty happy with my life. I have a great job, I’m surrounded by people I love and I have the wealth and freedom to pursue many hobbies, including competitive weightlifting and visual arts. The kids I know look up to me and I’m proud of the role model I am.

Sorry but I just don’t see the gloom and doom.
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Well of course you don’t. You’re enjoying the benefits of the good life on someone else’s tab.

Unless you want to argue that this demographic trend is not a reality. [/quote]

Really. Please explain to me who’s tab?

[quote]debraD wrote:

I don’t really see a problem.
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You need a population growth rate of 2.1 to replace your current population and Canada’s is 1.63. Even in the face of with immigration Canadians cannot maintain a replacement level birth rate. But as long as you’re happy. :slight_smile:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/hlth85b-eng.htm

The future female children you aren’t having.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
The future female children you aren’t having. [/quote]

You can’t be serious. That has to be a joke. HAS to be.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

I don’t really see a problem.
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You need a population growth rate of 2.1 to replace your current population and Canada’s is 1.63. Even in the face of with immigration Canadians cannot maintain a replacement level birth rate. But as long as you’re happy. :slight_smile:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/hlth85b-eng.htm
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You better find yourself a nice white woman and get busy, son! The world needs you!

Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.

[quote]on edge wrote:
Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.[/quote]

I don’t know if you’re referring to anything I’ve said but birth control is a technical detail. I do credit feminism for having the choice to have, or not have kids.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.[/quote]

I don’t know if you’re referring to anything I’ve said but birth control is a technical detail. I do credit feminism for having the choice to have, or not have kids.[/quote]

Are you saying you think birth control wouldn’t exist or you wouldn’t have the ability to get it without a feminist movemnet?

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.[/quote]

I don’t know if you’re referring to anything I’ve said but birth control is a technical detail. I do credit feminism for having the choice to have, or not have kids.[/quote]

Are you saying you think birth control wouldn’t exist or you wouldn’t have the ability to get it without a feminist movemnet?[/quote]

The latter–but it’s more than that. What the feminist movement really did was let 12 year old me know that I have that choice, among many other choices.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.[/quote]

I don’t know if you’re referring to anything I’ve said but birth control is a technical detail. I do credit feminism for having the choice to have, or not have kids.[/quote]

Are you saying you think birth control wouldn’t exist or you wouldn’t have the ability to get it without a feminist movemnet?[/quote]

The latter–but it’s more than that. What the feminist movement really did was let 12 year old me know that I have that choice, among many other choices. [/quote]

Really, it wasn’t the feminist movement that let you know that. In the tangled web of scientific advancement and economic forces, feminism was pushed. It didn’t pull.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
Hi, I’ve been out of this thread for a while and just dropped back in and browsed around a wee bit. Now I’d like to formally LOL at feminists taking credit for birth control. No knock on feminists or anything, I just think that’s very funny.[/quote]

I don’t know if you’re referring to anything I’ve said but birth control is a technical detail. I do credit feminism for having the choice to have, or not have kids.[/quote]

Are you saying you think birth control wouldn’t exist or you wouldn’t have the ability to get it without a feminist movemnet?[/quote]

The latter–but it’s more than that. What the feminist movement really did was let 12 year old me know that I have that choice, among many other choices. [/quote]

Really, it wasn’t the feminist movement that let you know that. In the tangled web of scientific advancement and economic forces, feminism was pushed. It didn’t pull.
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Says you. I says differently, and only I can be the authority on what was my influence.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
The future female children you aren’t having. [/quote]

You can’t be serious. That has to be a joke. HAS to be. [/quote]

You’d prefer that I retype the answer to your question one more time when it is explicitly and unambiguously laid out just a few posts up?

If you don’t want to address the issue at least don’t act like this is somehow our fault.

OP… Have u tried hitting yourself?

DebraD I am in BC, we make baby? Just kidding. I have no idea what this thread has become, just read this page.

Test Driven, I really lol’d at the hitting yourself comment. Classic.