Girlfriend Wants to Get Married, Dilemma

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I don’t want to hear why it’s difficult to achieve such an arrangement anymore. I want to hear why it is wrong [/quote]

Exactly what I’ve been arguing.

The decline is happening, theres no going back, and I’m content on enjoying the ride down.

I wouldn’t advise any man living in the west to get married in this current environment or have children.

Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.

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Okay have you been married?

Are you a divorced kid?

Why would people ask you for advice on life? Are you married, successful with children? then I would seek your advice.

If you are single, never been married or at least in LTR and still going to college who the fuck cares what you think. Your opinion on the world is through rose colored glasses and all your research is just that, studies out of books. Come back after you actually live a life, people like Push I can respect cause he has real world experience.

Now if this does not qualify to you then by all means continue. [/quote]

Its just a numbers game.

Why people should take his advice instead of yours is because he is looking at them and you dont.

Experience is worth zilch if it is not applied.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol Raj can’t bag a 9 so it’s the feminists and their destruction of the family to blame.[/quote]

lol Debra wont answer his question, but still gets that in there.

Classy.

How many children do you have?

Because its cool that you are happy and whatnot, unfortunately, enough of your kind of happiness and a society collapses, especially if at its core is a glorified Ponzi scheme like in Canada.

There are two ways this can go down.

Either, there is no immigration, then the welfare state collapses, or immigrant women who start at 18 to get children and average about 4 will outcompete women who have 1-2 in their 30s.

You are more than capable to do the math yourself, your society is doomed.

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This really is an issue modern feminists need to face, but appear unable to.

What’s ironic is that the replacement population is comprised of cultures that are unsupportive of or even hostile to the ideals that modern feminists have worked so hard to enshrine.

Tell us why this is not so, if it isn’t.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
So the abysmal birth rates of feminist countries, the exploding divorce rate, the endless amount of single moms (guess what type of families murderers come from?), men’s loss of interest in marriage are things you can easily ignore? Your wife and all feminists have done an excellent job of destroying female happiness too. It’s been in constant decline since the 70s… Coincidence huh?

How did these problems just happen to arise once feminism took off?
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I’d like to see this answered, too. This is NOT an economic phenomenon.

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If anyone is interested what that might look like, the go to examples for social engineers in Europe are France and Sweden because those have birth rates that can sustain the current level of population.

Now both goevrnments are very reluctant to even gather data on certain things, but sometimes they fuck up.

F.E, in France they test for sickel cell anemia, but only if one, and now two parents come from a country where that is actually common, i.e. Africa.

Turns out, if that data is interpreted in points to 50-60% of all children that are born in Paris are of African descent.

That is not a problem in and of itself, except for the self evident fact that those women pump out 5+ children as compared to the 1.77 per native French woman shows quite clearly that her outlook on life must be entirely different.

There are banlieus the police does not go to anymore and that basicaly live in a state of tribal anarchy, there are whole cities that will have a Muslim majority in the very near future.

In Sweden, especially Malmoe, which is bound to become the first Swedish Muslim majority city, rape rates have quadrupled in the last decade, it is now twice that of the UK and almost 20 times that of countries that were sheltered from immigration by the iron curtain.

Does anyone has any doubt who is committing those rapes.

In Oslo, Norway 100% of all rapes in the public space, yeah thats right, ALL OF THEM, in 2010 were committed by Muslim immigrants.

Those countries are the spearheads of the feminist movement, which is only about equality, no doubt, and this is where it starts for them, this is far from the endgame.

In the end, the endless female entitlement and misandry , which is what modern really is, is a self defeating philosophy because if the DebraDs of this planet are not willing to put their womb where their mouth is, despite being the most entitled and subsidized generation of women this planet has ever seen, they just like, have an opinion maaaan.

And it will inevitably die with them.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol Raj can’t bag a 9 so it’s the feminists and their destruction of the family to blame.[/quote]

lol Debra wont answer his question, but still gets that in there.

Classy.

How many children do you have?

Because its cool that you are happy and whatnot, unfortunately, enough of your kind of happiness and a society collapses, especially if at its core is a glorified Ponzi scheme like in Canada.

There are two ways this can go down.

Either, there is no immigration, then the welfare state collapses, or immigrant women who start at 18 to get children and average about 4 will outcompete women who have 1-2 in their 30s.

You are more than capable to do the math yourself, your society is doomed.

[/quote]

This really is an issue modern feminists need to face, but appear unable to.

What’s ironic is that the replacement population is comprised of cultures that are unsupportive of or even hostile to the ideals that modern feminists have worked so hard to enshrine.

Tell us why this is not so, if it isn’t. [/quote]

That is because “strong, independent women ™” are either unwilling or unable to reign in their most base instincts.

Unfortunately, if they want to be all equal and shit, they have to, just like men do.

But, as we have seen in this and previous threads they are not even willing to admit that they might be there, happily assisted by white knightery and men of varying degrees of beta status who are unwilling to let go of their fairy take version of how women really are.

I would expect a “feminist” movement that can be taken serious to adress this and soon and anyone who does not adress this and focuses on utter trivial BS instead is what Ester Vilar called a “public child”.

Little girls that play being adults and expect to be bailed out when that goes terribly wrong.

Unfortunately, sooner or later they will have eroded all economic and emotional capital that makes bailing out someone possible.

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[quote]orion wrote:

Little girls that play being adults and expect to be bailed out when that goes terribly wrong.

[/quote]

That is weakness.
If the woman is weak masquerading as strong, she could attempt to control the man as if he were her child.

“The infantisation of men”.

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Where does this come from? If you select a woman who has no education, no proven work ethic, and no career experience, you’re probably right. But that’s a “buyer beware” issue. I consider my greatest commodity to be my brain. I’m not of the ilk that believes women should “hold out” to get a man or to get what she wants. IMO, that attitude demeans a woman’s value and suggests she’s not a sexual creature herself.
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Say what??? No education, no work ethic and no career experience? Pretty sure that more often than not the uneducated woman would be more prone to casual sex. The more education that a woman has, GENERALLY, the more she would realize that her sexuality is only part of what she has to offer a man. At least those have been my own observations.
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Actually, I’m fairly certain the opposite is true.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Where does this come from? If you select a woman who has no education, no proven work ethic, and no career experience, you’re probably right. But that’s a “buyer beware” issue. I consider my greatest commodity to be my brain. I’m not of the ilk that believes women should “hold out” to get a man or to get what she wants. IMO, that attitude demeans a woman’s value and suggests she’s not a sexual creature herself.
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Say what??? No education, no work ethic and no career experience? Pretty sure that more often than not the uneducated woman would be more prone to casual sex. The more education that a woman has, GENERALLY, the more she would realize that her sexuality is only part of what she has to offer a man. At least those have been my own observations.
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Actually, I’m fairly certain the opposite is true.[/quote]

You sir, win a gold star.

“Although robust sex differences are abundant in men and womenâ??s mating psychology, there is a considerable degree of overlap between the two as well. In an effort to understand where and when this overlap exists, the current study provides an exploration of within-sex variation in womenâ??s mate preferences. We hypothesized that womenâ??s intelligence, given an environment where women can use that intelligence to attain educational and career opportunities, would be: (1) positively related to their willingness to engage in short-term sexual relationships, (2) negatively related to their desire for qualities in a partner that indicated wealth and status, and (3) negatively related to their endorsement of traditional gender roles in romantic relationships. These predictions were supported. Results suggest that intelligence may be one important individual difference influencing womenâ??s mate preferences.”

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

And to be fair, your post count is higher than mine is, and your join date is 5 years later, so if I can find the time to reply, I have to imagine you can. [/quote]

I spent way too much time on T-Nation while recuperating from two surgeries in the last three years. And most of my posts are related to powerlifting. But your point is still valid.

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[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

And to be fair, your post count is higher than mine is, and your join date is 5 years later, so if I can find the time to reply, I have to imagine you can. [/quote]

I spent way too much time on T-Nation while recuperating from two surgeries in the last three years. And most of my posts are related to powerlifting. But your point is still valid.[/quote]

I spend too much time here as it is, I can certainly understand.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Little girls that play being adults and expect to be bailed out when that goes terribly wrong.

[/quote]

That is weakness.
If the woman is weak masquerading as strong, she could attempt to control the man as if he were her child.

“The infantisation of men”.
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Well, if you want to look into it, googling “feminist shaming tactics” should get results.

The instinctive female go tos are public shaming, basically a form of scolding or an attempt to emasculate the opponent (cant get laid, gay, lives in moms basement, cant pull 9s, creativity bonus there).

Its all quite primitive really.

So yes, it can be seen as an attempt to treat a man as a child from the get go, a primitive form of projection to force him into this role, or to emasculate him first, infantilize him second.

From a broader perspective, women rarely argue the point and even those that do somehow cannot resist the urge to go the social route to “win” an argument, meaning lower her opponents status so long until he gives up.

Its easy to deal with that though, you simply do the same thing when she starts, just better and a little bit more out there.

Once she has accepted that you are willing and able to go a lot farther than she is willing to go, such things tend to stop.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I don’t want to hear why it’s difficult to achieve such an arrangement anymore. I want to hear why it is wrong [/quote]

Exactly what I’ve been arguing.

The decline is happening, theres no going back, and I’m content on enjoying the ride down.

I wouldn’t advise any man living in the west to get married in this current environment or have children.

Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.

[/quote]
Okay have you been married?

Are you a divorced kid?

Why would people ask you for advice on life? Are you married, successful with children? then I would seek your advice.

If you are single, never been married or at least in LTR and still going to college who the fuck cares what you think. Your opinion on the world is through rose colored glasses and all your research is just that, studies out of books. Come back after you actually live a life, people like Push I can respect cause he has real world experience.

Now if this does not qualify to you then by all means continue. [/quote]

Ouch![/quote]
Pussy.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I don’t want to hear why it’s difficult to achieve such an arrangement anymore. I want to hear why it is wrong [/quote]

Exactly what I’ve been arguing.

The decline is happening, theres no going back, and I’m content on enjoying the ride down.

I wouldn’t advise any man living in the west to get married in this current environment or have children.

Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.

[/quote]
Okay have you been married?

Are you a divorced kid?

Why would people ask you for advice on life? Are you married, successful with children? then I would seek your advice.

If you are single, never been married or at least in LTR and still going to college who the fuck cares what you think. Your opinion on the world is through rose colored glasses and all your research is just that, studies out of books. Come back after you actually live a life, people like Push I can respect cause he has real world experience.

Now if this does not qualify to you then by all means continue. [/quote]

Ouch![/quote]
Pussy.[/quote]

Really?

From a tiger?

LOL!
[/quote]
:slight_smile:

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Where does this come from? If you select a woman who has no education, no proven work ethic, and no career experience, you’re probably right. But that’s a “buyer beware” issue. I consider my greatest commodity to be my brain. I’m not of the ilk that believes women should “hold out” to get a man or to get what she wants. IMO, that attitude demeans a woman’s value and suggests she’s not a sexual creature herself.
[/quote]

Say what??? No education, no work ethic and no career experience? Pretty sure that more often than not the uneducated woman would be more prone to casual sex. The more education that a woman has, GENERALLY, the more she would realize that her sexuality is only part of what she has to offer a man. At least those have been my own observations.
[/quote]
Actually, I’m fairly certain the opposite is true.[/quote]

I’m interested in you elaborating here, Oboile.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
So how much time should the mother spend compared to the father?

Won’t be able to answer till later, gotta get to bed [/quote]

Man, no kidding…

You posted at 4:45 am?[/quote]

To be fair, I put my son to sleep at 10ish and fell asleep with him. I woke up around 2 and it was clear that I would not be getting back to sleep anytime soon after that. I do need to get on a more natural sleep cycle, though, certainly.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.

[/quote]

I’m a feminist and I’m pretty happy :). But the family unit is just fine. Sorry you’re unable to adapt.[/quote]

Glad to hear youre happy. How many kids ya got?

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Thanks to feminism, EXACTLY as many as I want.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
DebraD do you like Canadian culture?

When it eventually dies will you still be happy?[/quote]

I don’t mind it. But all culture is temporary and if it can’t survive society than it’s time to move on. I will live. Or I will join a movement for change.

If the current state is in such a decline, oh powerful male with natural leadership prowess, what are you doing to change it? Actually I pose that to all you complainers. Going to start a movement or just have Internet ‘debate’?
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I would argue that arguing on the internet, in the correct forum and with the correct opponents, IS a form of “movement.” Don’t believe me? I pointed this out a long time ago on PWI when someone was talking about the futility of arguing on the internet. Go back to the GAL front page and have a look at the reply count for this thread. Now look at the view count.
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That’s a bit weak don’t you think? This thread is a trainwreck—that’s why it has a lot of views. RogueVampire’s threads have a lot of views too.