I don’t want to hear why it’s difficult to achieve such an arrangement anymore. I want to hear why it is wrong [/quote]
Exactly what I’ve been arguing.
The decline is happening, theres no going back, and I’m content on enjoying the ride down.
I wouldn’t advise any man living in the west to get married in this current environment or have children.
Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.
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Okay have you been married?
Are you a divorced kid?
Why would people ask you for advice on life? Are you married, successful with children? then I would seek your advice.
If you are single, never been married or at least in LTR and still going to college who the fuck cares what you think. Your opinion on the world is through rose colored glasses and all your research is just that, studies out of books. Come back after you actually live a life, people like Push I can respect cause he has real world experience.
Now if this does not qualify to you then by all means continue. [/quote]
I’ve banged a married woman does that count?[/quote]
[quote]debraD wrote:
If the current state is in such a decline, oh powerful male with natural leadership prowess, what are you doing to change it? Actually I pose that to all you complainers. Going to start a movement or just have Internet ‘debate’?[/quote]
Me, I’m just observing and debating. And looking for the right girl.
Feminism is really just one of many forces that have shaped the current environment, making some things easier and some things harder. I find it a bit more interesting to talk about it than to talk about bad parenting, etc.
But in the end it all still comes down to personal choices. A girl may be more or less likely to do something based on how her parents were, her political environment, feminism, whatever.
In other environments (like Japan), the cultural forces are different, and you’re more likely to find girls who made a different set of choices.
But in the end, I just need one girl. My friends just need one girl. And talking about all these trends and social forces is just a way to kill time.
Sorry guys, when it comes down to it, I really only care about myself on this one.[/quote]
I didn’t really see you as one who’s regretting feminism and the decline of the family. I don’t really see anything wrong with bullshitting on a forum like this but if you’re going to get dramatic (generic you) about it lets hear about some organized action from the natural leaders…
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Lol - I’m supposed to play house with some girl whose had 5-12 cocks in her before me? No thanks.
Ill stay childless, watch Canadian culture die along with DebraD.
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You’ll show them!
Seriously though, what specifically about Canadian Culture is under threat? I have a feeling we are not experiencing the same culture…
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If the base population is not reproducing, immigrants lose incentive to buy into Canadian norms. Soon Canada will be a country of many competing cultures, but no unifying one. A divided country cannot stand. Immigration is fine I small amounts, but in Canada’s case that’s pretty much how this country grows.
Don’t believe me? Take a look at what’s happening I’m Sweden and Norway.
Plus I like white people. I’d rather they not weed themselves out of existence.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Maybe this needs to be said. Low divorce rates doesn’t mean more happy marriages.[/quote]
Go read what I wrote on the last page. Women’s expectations and standards of men have gone through the roof.
If they’re unhappy, its largely because expectations have been warped.[/quote]
I think men’s expectations and standards for women have gone through the roof too. And especially in the bedroom.
Really, both sides are causing problems.
Without being too facetious, I think the internet is in part to blame. Marriage has become more and more about “choice” over time, rather than necessity, and people are making choices based on information that’s subject to very heavy selection biases.
But because of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the happy marriages today are actually much happier than the happy marriages of yesteryear.[/quote]
Things are never, ever, going to be perfect. Whether it be 2 people living together, a family, a town, city, state, country or the world.
Things are never going to be perfect, the world is never going to be fair, utopia can not, nor will it ever be able to happen.
Once people see that any change, no matter how good, is going to have new “problems” that pop up for people, we can stop being so dramatic as the “world crashes around us”.
I often think of the “first world problems” meme in a lot of posts in threads like these. As humans, we will always find something to bitch about. And there will always be someone willing to hump the ugly one…
Along with other problems.[/quote]
And there will always be someone willing to hump the ugly one…[/quote]
You said you would never tell…running away crying.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Maybe this needs to be said. Low divorce rates doesn’t mean more happy marriages.[/quote]
Go read what I wrote on the last page. Women’s expectations and standards of men have gone through the roof.
If they’re unhappy, its largely because expectations have been warped.[/quote]
I think men’s expectations and standards for women have gone through the roof too. And especially in the bedroom.
Really, both sides are causing problems.
Without being too facetious, I think the internet is in part to blame. Marriage has become more and more about “choice” over time, rather than necessity, and people are making choices based on information that’s subject to very heavy selection biases.
But because of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the happy marriages today are actually much happier than the happy marriages of yesteryear.[/quote]
Is this a crack as Disney and hardcore porn?[/quote]
And Maxim and Cosmo. And bb.com, while we’re at it.
Along with other problems.[/quote]
And there will always be someone willing to hump the ugly one…[/quote]
You said you would never tell…running away crying.[/quote]
You’re pretty on the inside, and have a great personality
Along with other problems.[/quote]
And there will always be someone willing to hump the ugly one…[/quote]
You said you would never tell…running away crying.[/quote]
I’m not ashamed to say my standards weren’t always as high as they are now. I married way out of my league in the looks department.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Maybe this needs to be said. Low divorce rates doesn’t mean more happy marriages.[/quote]
Go read what I wrote on the last page. Women’s expectations and standards of men have gone through the roof.
If they’re unhappy, its largely because expectations have been warped.[/quote]
I think men’s expectations and standards for women have gone through the roof too. And especially in the bedroom.
Really, both sides are causing problems.
Without being too facetious, I think the internet is in part to blame. Marriage has become more and more about “choice” over time, rather than necessity, and people are making choices based on information that’s subject to very heavy selection biases.
But because of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the happy marriages today are actually much happier than the happy marriages of yesteryear.[/quote]
Is this a crack as Disney and hardcore porn?[/quote]
And Maxim and Cosmo. And bb.com, while we’re at it.[/quote]
This is how she argues. She throws a little jabs at unnamed “folks” then either won’t stick around to defend her claims or whines about the vindictive treatment those with opposing opinions have.
She never sticks around a PWI argument past about this point. [/quote]
Still here. I actually corrected my statement. I was speaking outta my ass on that one and admitted it. I don’t have the free time you guys have to hang in these parts. So I don’t contribute much. I seriously can’t figure out how some people have so much spare time to blog so much here.[/quote]
Okay, I can appreciate that.
I said what I did because there’ve been a few times you’ve dropped into abortion and related threads on PWI, dropped a few highly contentious talking points and then vanished without defending them. When you did show up later, after my repeated attempts to engage you, you painted me and others on “my side” with a broad brush, saying PWI posters were uncivil or something similar, and then ducked out again. I considered it rude, particularly as I often go out of my way to understand my opponents arguments, and anyone who has spent any amount of time in debate with me will vouch for me civility. Hell, most of the libs on PWI I consider my friends. Almost ALL of my friends in real life are mid to hard left liberals.
And to be fair, your post count is higher than mine is, and your join date is 5 years later, so if I can find the time to reply, I have to imagine you can.
I wouldn’t advise any man living in the west to … have children.
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To not do so would be to miss out on one of the most amazing and most rewarding things one can experience as a human, IMO.
No, having kids isn’t for everyone, and no it isn’t 100% joy 100% of the time, but even the worst moments are trumped by okay moments, let alone the great moments.
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I could not agree more with this post. Nothing, and I mean nothing can compare to the feeling of your three year old child hugging you and telling you, “I love you,” before falling asleep on your chest.
Feminists wanted to destabilize the family unit, well you’ve got your wish.
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I’m a feminist and I’m pretty happy :). But the family unit is just fine. Sorry you’re unable to adapt.[/quote]
Glad to hear youre happy. How many kids ya got?
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Thanks to feminism, EXACTLY as many as I want.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
DebraD do you like Canadian culture?
When it eventually dies will you still be happy?[/quote]
I don’t mind it. But all culture is temporary and if it can’t survive society than it’s time to move on. I will live. Or I will join a movement for change.
If the current state is in such a decline, oh powerful male with natural leadership prowess, what are you doing to change it? Actually I pose that to all you complainers. Going to start a movement or just have Internet ‘debate’?
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I would argue that arguing on the internet, in the correct forum and with the correct opponents, IS a form of “movement.” Don’t believe me? I pointed this out a long time ago on PWI when someone was talking about the futility of arguing on the internet. Go back to the GAL front page and have a look at the reply count for this thread. Now look at the view count.
[quote]debraD wrote:
lol Raj can’t bag a 9 so it’s the feminists and their destruction of the family to blame.[/quote]
lol Debra wont answer his question, but still gets that in there.
Classy.
How many children do you have?
Because its cool that you are happy and whatnot, unfortunately, enough of your kind of happiness and a society collapses, especially if at its core is a glorified Ponzi scheme like in Canada.
There are two ways this can go down.
Either, there is no immigration, then the welfare state collapses, or immigrant women who start at 18 to get children and average about 4 will outcompete women who have 1-2 in their 30s.
You are more than capable to do the math yourself, your society is doomed.
