Getting the Most Out of HOT-ROX

this is my second time using HRX, my first attempt was to just use one pill a day or maybe as a pre workout stimulant which was stronger for me than Spike. I couldn’t handle many pills in a day so dont think that I got the maximum effect.

I ate 3 balanced p and c meals low glycemic exc ept for postworkout, and 2 or 3 p and fat meals. I adjusted calories and increased intensity, some volume but never got the results that I had once gotten from ephedra based supps.

This is my second round with this supplement and I want to make it work! I want to at least get to 12% BF Im at about 16% @225lbs.

What is the best type o diet to use with HRX? I seem to really falter on lcd, and diets like the GSD. I have been trying to adjust to a LCD and find I look worse. I flatten out and my fat appears fatter cause my muscles are smaller my sex drive power DROPS. My chest and arms look like nothing its hard to handle. But if I up carbs to even PWO and there after I dont lose a stitch of fat

SO Im try ing something different eating just a bit of fruit, and maybe a half cup of beans, pwo is whey and glutamine and upping the fats. each meal mostly solid proteins and getting falx, epa, and olive oil as my fats.

any advice?

Don’t go low carb just eliminate fat prone carbs and sugars. Eat as much green leafy vegetables as you want. If you are eating fruit just keep the main intake of this in the early part of your day. Cut out white processed flour and even whole wheat as much as possible especially later in the day.

Keep lean protein intake high and lower and or eliminate unhealthy fats (hydrogenated). Keep good fat intake high including using Flameout. Try not to eat past five or so in the evening and instead opt for some BCAA’s before bedtime to ward off muscle loss.

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I think ive already done that. ecept for not eating after 5.

I dont think ive eatin a hydrogenated fat for ten years.

I haven’t eatin bread forever either.

How does this sound
twice a week on non workout days, GSD.

Fourdays a week, 225 g protein only 2 shake meals , 60 g carbs all low glycemic veggies , salads and some low GI fruits, with 100 g of fat, 3rd sat, 3rd mono, 3rd poly. PWO during these days will be glutamine and whey. (think beverly international style).

twice a week normal JMB style eating
3 carb meals after workout , plus PWO shake (Surge). as it gets later in the evening 3 Protein and fat meals. (these are my safe refill days) just uppin g calories and carbs
carbs 300 total, protein 225, fat 85g.

Regardless of your macros (low carb, high carb, high fat, mod fat)…you need to be below maintenance to lose weight.

I did the same thing…eating low carb, eating high pro, high fat, but not losing weight. My total cals were still too high, had to drop some of the fats. I even did better when i replaced some of the fat with a little bit of carbs. not as low carb, more easily manageable but it dropped my total cal intake.

[quote]PozzSka wrote:
Regardless of your macros (low carb, high carb, high fat, mod fat)…you need to be below maintenance to lose weight.

I did the same thing…eating low carb, eating high pro, high fat, but not losing weight. My total cals were still too high, had to drop some of the fats. I even did better when i replaced some of the fat with a little bit of carbs. not as low carb, more easily manageable but it dropped my total cal intake.[/quote]

True. You can be eating the healthiest food in world and maintain or gain weight if the cals are too high. Create a slight deficit, but don’t go into starvation mode either.

D

what if your body has adapted to a lower level maintence level and there fore what looks good on paper actually just keeps homeostasis? I guess I get into reading to much Poliquin, who does not believe in calories , says hormone manipulation is more important and total protein and efas.?

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
what if your body has adapted to a lower level maintence level and there fore what looks good on paper actually just keeps homeostasis? I guess I get into reading to much Poliquin, who does not believe in calories , says hormone manipulation is more important and total protein and efas.?[/quote]

If you were losing muscle and getting weaker more then losing fat, I would say that method or adaption isn’t working.

D

I’ve had similar problems with the low carb approach (flat, weak, soft looking), and the cycling approach worked much better for me. I did 3 days low carb (50gms or so) followed by one carb up day. This got me from 15% BF down to 9% in just over 3 months. Not the quickest results, but I kept my strength, made steady progress, and didn’t look and feel like shit the whole time.

[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
I’ve had similar problems with the low carb approach (flat, weak, soft looking), and the cycling approach worked much better for me. I did 3 days low carb (50gms or so) followed by one carb up day. This got me from 15% BF down to 9% in just over 3 months. Not the quickest results, but I kept my strength, made steady progress, and didn’t look and feel like shit the whole time.[/quote]

How would you do your carb ups? what type? how many?