Getting Ridiculous..Liberal College

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pwilliams wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Sorry. I got carried away. I was just so disgusted with the whole homosexuality thing being thrown in my face constantly.

“Constantly”? Really? Like, 24 hours a day?

Or was it, in reality, just the one time in class when a teacher tried to…god for-fucking-bid…teach you something?

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

What the fuck is wrong with you. You start resorting to calling me a racist. Let me tell you something asshole I’ve volunteered to go on humanitarian missions to both Haiti, Ethiopia, and Djibouti (that’s in Africa shithead).

One of the most satisfying times of my life helping starving children. Have you ever been to Africa and Haiti? Have you seen the starvation and death and disease going on there? That’s one of the reasons that I was so pissed off that the teacher was going on about the AIDS situation among gays when it is destroying entire populations in Africa. Let alone the other diseases that are ravaging that continent that we could be talking about.

Wiggun, don’t humor this guy. This is a game he plays to push buttons. Ignore him.
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You’re absolutely right: just fucking around, trying to push butons.

No one at all could possibly be upset by a bigoted moron spewing homophobic invective around.

Dumbass.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Sorry. I got carried away. I was just so disgusted with the whole homosexuality thing being thrown in my face constantly.

“Constantly”? Really? Like, 24 hours a day?

Or was it, in reality, just the one time in class when a teacher tried to…god for-fucking-bid…teach you something?

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

What the fuck is wrong with you. You start resorting to calling me a racist. Let me tell you something asshole I’ve volunteered to go on humanitarian missions to both Haiti, Ethiopia, and Djibouti (that’s in Africa shithead).

One of the most satisfying times of my life helping starving children. Have you ever been to Africa and Haiti? Have you seen the starvation and death and disease going on there? That’s one of the reasons that I was so pissed off that the teacher was going on about the AIDS situation among gays when it is destroying entire populations in Africa. Let alone the other diseases that are ravaging that continent that we could be talking about.

Well, what is wong with me is that I used an analogy. Maybe you need more college courses.

Please don’t try to backtrack on your racist witch hunt. Is it so amazing that someone who doesn’t agree with homosexuality is not a racist? (By the way, my mother is Puerto Rican)It seems that in today’s society if you don’t follow the politically correct lexicon, you are automatically deemed a bigot. Nothing could be further from the truth in my case. I judge people by their behavior and actions not the color of their skin. And getting back to my original point, please Harris447 tell me what does a TWO HOUR video showing gay men fornicating have to do with the HISTORY of Medicine? We have already watched “Philadelpia” and “And the Band Played On”, these two movies more than covered AIDS in the gay community. This was obvious case of my professor going above and beyond to insert her own idealogy into the class. I payed good money to learn about the History of Medicine, not how men have sex.

No, in today’s society, what gets you deemed a bigot is spewing your pathetic shit about “faggots” and “homos”.

Nice try to turn it around on me, though.[/quote]

I agree that “faggots” and “homos” are indeed incorrect terms along with “gay” and “lesbian”.

The CORRECT medical/biological terms are “homosexual” and “heterosexual”.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

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good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.

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[quote]Pete Ross wrote:
jlesk68 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
jlesk68 wrote:
HIV does not cause AIDS.

Please tell us what does.

http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/cohen/266-5191-1648a.pdf

There aren’t any controlled studies that prove that HIV turns into AIDS. As soon as a person finds out they test HIV positive, they’re put on AZT, after a few years the person begins to die of “AIDS”, when if fact they’re actually dying because of the side effects of the AZT. AZT was a useless drug, very toxic and Glaxo had spent a whole lot of millions to develop it as a cancer drug, thdy had to make their money back somehow.
If your immunity is compromised you may test positive for HIV, even if you don’t have the “virus”.

Professor Steven Jonas, professor of preventive medicine at the State University of New York at Stony Brook.
“When Magic Johnson announced that he was infected by HIV,” Jonas continues, “I wrote him a letter saying that assuming he didn’t have any other disease or condition that compromised his immune system, and assuming he didn’t tale AZT, I would wager $ 10,000 that he would not die of AIDS. I advised Magic Johnson to unretire and go back to playing in the N.B.A. He took that advice, although I’m sure it was not because I sent him a letter. I think it was highly unfortunate that he was forced to retire. I’m sure that there are any number of players in the N.B.A. who are HIV-positive, and none of them will get AIDS either, unless they have some other disease or condition which compromises their immune system.”

This has been covered before. HIV1 as the cause of AIDS is well established. And I guess you didn’t read that Science article very closely, because it completely refutes your position.

Stop relying on material written by doubters in 1992 and read research from the last 5 years.

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controlled study please…

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[quote]toughcasey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.
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So…please tell us about t\when you made the momentous choice to be a heterosexual.

What? You say you were just born that way?

Huh. Interesting.

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[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
I understand your frusration. I think that aids can be summed up in this way:

If you (heterosexual or homosexual) engage in sex in which a penis is inserted into your rectum, you have a high risk of getting HIV/AIDS.

If you are an intravenous drug user (heterosexual or homosexual) and share needles with other intravenous drug users you have a high risk of getting HIV/AIDS.

If you do not do either of the above two things, you have a very low risk of getting HIV/AIDS. So low, in fact, that it’s not even worth talking about.

If anyone can offer anything to refute the above…well…it’s either made up or wrong or propaganda (i.e. all of the above). Period.[/quote]

It absolutely amazes me that anyone can really be this fucking stupid and still breath without assistance. Wow.

So you can only get HIV/AIDS by taking up the ass or sharing a needle? Please, teach any offspring that you may have unfortunately produced this “fact”, cause Darwin wasn’t right either.

I’ve thought you were a fucking stump since you started posting (under this handle, who were you before?) but now you’ve proven it beyond all doubt. Thank you.

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[quote]PtrDR wrote:
The CORRECT medical/biological terms are “homosexual” and “heterosexual”.
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Hey Ace, good to see you back. How’s your, um, “better half” doing these days?

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I’d like to make a point I think is being missed…

At the university level, courses like history are not about names, dates and places anymore. That’s what you get in high school. I took about one half of one semester of university history before I bailed out on the concept entirely.

At the university level history is about the impact that events had, how they changed things, the relationships between events and the evolution of society around them. I sure as hell wasn’t up to the that level of thinking at the time.

Like it or not, the issues around being gay, whether or not at all related to HIV, are having a large impact on society now and in recent history. It’s a subject that some are incredibly uncomfortable with, and I know I’d not like to watch male homosexual acts - though lesbians wouldn’t offend me at all.

The way gay individuals have been labeled, or the way AIDS has been labeled as a gay issue, at least when it first came out, is a tremendous shame on society as a historic issue. It would be like despising all poor people because they are the ones that lived in poor enough areas to have rat infestations during the plague. Then, they could be shunned, fired from their jobs, ridiculed, hated, beaten up and blamed for causing it and dying of it.

On the other hand, if your history professor is not trying to make a point about society, it’s reactions (including yours) and the evolution of thought towards HIV/AIDS and gay individuals, then it may be a bit much.

However, even if it is over the top and has nothing to do with the course in this way, it doesn’t fucking have much to do with the concept of being a liberal or a conservative. Log cabin republicans would be happy to text message you and proposition you for gay sex as much as anyone else apparently.

Sit your ass down in the chair and suffer through whatever bullshit is being taught. If you aren’t getting something from a particular class, then use your brain and think about something else productive.

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[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
controlled study please…[/quote]

Could you start your own threads for your ridiculous conspiracy bullshit instead of hijacking and polluting real ones?

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[quote]Wiggum88 wrote:
orion wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
My whole point to this story is that my professor should be teaching things about the history of medicine. As I said we learn more about homosexuality and AIDS than about the HISTORY of medicine. Things like Pasteur, Vesalius, the Black Death, Peurperal Fever should be discussed. We spend very little if any time on topics such as this.

P.S. Please don’t mock my service to my country. I wasn’t saying that I know it all, just that my views are a certain way because of some of the stuff I have experienced.

What would you like to learn to in history of medicine?

That Hypocrates invented the oath and Pasteur the germ theory? What the hell, let`s throw Semmelweis in there, whose great contribution was, wait for it, to wash your hands in between dissecting corpses and delivering children.

Or the more interesting stuff like changes in society because of the Black Death in Europe, how people (aka future patients) react to disease (like a frightened bunch of sheep, mostly)?

Is a professor trying to raise some questions here really trying to brainwash you or does he have a point?
If he uses the most recent disease, is he justified in doing so?

If he raises a good point in a bad way, are you under no obligation to try to understand?

Is he not trying to innoculate you against the instincts of a herd animal , is that not anti-liberal?

I never mocked your service for your country, but if you let it stand in the way of actively learning stuff that does not come easy to you, well, you are not making the best of it either.

To put it into a nutshell:

Homosexuality, Aids, human behaviour when it comes to disease…

What better incidents to use then those which happen at your lifetime…

It is happening all around you, just look and see what is going on…

PS: Just for shits and giggles:

Scorbut only happens to sailors. Therefore God does not wants us to sail the seven seas and punishes those who do…

Once again I will reiterate my point. THE PROFESSOR should be teaching us about the HISTORY of medicine. Not showing movies with two men fornicating in it. Want to show a movie about AIDS. Fine, I have no problem with that. How about an objective one like something from the history channel. Not some idealogical one with explicit scenes in it.

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First off, thank you so much for your service to our great country! You and the other men and women in the military ARE our true heros!

Now for the substance of what you brought up about the class, this is what I would have done.

(1) Leave the class – which you did.

(2) Demand a meeting with the chairman of the department whom your professor reports. If you get no satisfaction…

(3) Demand a meeting with the president of the college.

(4) Call the local press and see if they would run the story.

I share your “I’ve had it up to here” with the “gay” agenda. They are, in fact, shoving this down our throats and they use the instiutions of learning from the elementary schools right through college as the tools to advance their agenda.

We must fight right back!

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
First off, thank you so much for your service to our great country! You and the other men and women in the military ARE our true heros!

Now for the substance of what you brought up about the class, this is what I would have done.

(1) Leave the class – which you did.

(2) Demand a meeting with the chairman of the department whom your professor reports. If you get no satisfaction…

(3) Demand a meeting with the president of the college.

(4) Call the local press and see if they would run the story.

I share your “I’ve had it up to here” with the “gay” agenda. They are, in fact, shoving this down our throats and they use the instiutions of learning from the elementary schools right through college as the tools to advance their agenda.

We must fight right back!
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Hokay, now that you see who is completely on your side, maybe you’ll realize it’s time to make a subtle shift towards the middle?

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.

So…please tell us about t\when you made the momentous choice to be a heterosexual.

What? You say you were just born that way?

Huh. Interesting.[/quote]

a creature with a firm grip on reality and the realization that in order to preserve the human race i must naturally pro-create? yes i was born that way.

homosexuality is a sexual deviation from what nature intended. there is a reason homosexuality is only found in humans. we are the only species that has the ability to rationalize our wrong choices and find other groups of people to make ourselves feel better about our radical behavior until it finally becomes a social norm.

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
Now for the substance of what you brought up about the class, this is what I would have done.

(1) Leave the class – which you did.

(2) Demand a meeting with the chairman of the department whom your professor reports. If you get no satisfaction…

(3) Demand a meeting with the president of the college.

(4) Call the local press and see if they would run the story.
[/quote]

(5) Rename the course.

Just my 2 cents.

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[quote]MrChill wrote:

(5) Rename the course.

Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

Exactly. There very well may be a course to be had where a movie like this is important. Likely it is one of the worthless trendy subjects that end in a “studies”. There is also likely great demand for such a course.

But as the great debate over science and religion classes, let the two be seperate. Here, a History of Medicine class has zilch to do with Tony Kushner’s revisionist fantasy. There is no shortage of straight documentaries on the history of AIDS - stick to the science and history, not some screen-adapted play.

The OP has every right to be upset at what was presented in his class. If you signed up for a Political Science class and you spent a fair amount of time watching old clips from the Rush Limbaugh show, it’d be just as inappropriate. Tuition dollars should not be paying the salaries of people trying to indoctrinate you - the Great March Through The Institutions notwithstanding.

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[quote]toughcasey wrote:
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good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.

harris447 wrote:

So…please tell us about t\when you made the momentous choice to be a heterosexual.

What? You say you were just born that way?

Huh. Interesting.

a creature with a firm grip on reality and the realization that in order to preserve the human race i must naturally pro-create? yes i was born that way.

homosexuality is a sexual deviation from what nature intended. there is a reason homosexuality is only found in humans. we are the only species that has the ability to rationalize our wrong choices and find other groups of people to make ourselves feel better about our radical behavior until it finally becomes a social norm.

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

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Your dodging his point. If you claim homosexuality is a deliberate choice, then wanting to know when you choose to be a heterosexual is a valid question.

Also, I don’t consider you a creature with a firm grip on reality. For instance, homosexuality is not only found in humans, it’s found in animals also.

I don’t think there’s an absolute right, but I do agree that some things are absolutely wrong. Your opinion that homosexuality is a choice, is absolutely wrong. So is your opinion that homosexuality is only found in humans.

That being said, in any situation, I wouldn’t be comfortable having to watch men making out. I wouldn’t be comfortable in a classroom having to watch women making out either. In the privacy of my own home however.

That doesn’t make me a homophobic bastard. That makes me a heterosexual, and this is how God made me.
If you don’t like that, and if you’re a female, bit me, lick me anyway you want me.

If you don’t like that and you’re a guy, tough luck.

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[quote]toughcasey wrote:

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

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TME, Harris, Schwarzfuhrer, and company will be confused by logic.

Steve has it right though. Turning college classrooms into leftist, gay, communist shit-pits MUST END. Wiggums signed up FOR KNOWLEDGE, not for leftist gay propaganda.

I suspect that BTW that tme, Harris, der fuhrer and the rest, are all victims of such leftist college classrooms, so maybe they’re blameless.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
toughcasey wrote:

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

TME, Harris, Schwarzfuhrer, and company will be confused by logic.

Steve has it right though. Turning college classrooms into leftist, gay, communist shit-pits MUST END. Wiggums signed up FOR KNOWLEDGE, not for leftist gay propaganda.

I suspect that BTW that tme, Harris, der fuhrer and the rest, are all victims of such leftist college classrooms, so maybe they’re blameless.

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Hey mr. Logic, since when did gay become leftist?

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Sorry. I got carried away. I was just so disgusted with the whole homosexuality thing being thrown in my face constantly.

“Constantly”? Really? Like, 24 hours a day?

Or was it, in reality, just the one time in class when a teacher tried to…god for-fucking-bid…teach you something?

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

I know I wouldn’t call on you. Cuz, you kow, your debilitating “asthma” prevents you from doing anything but dipshitting up the interweb.
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Asthma trumps cowardice, Harris.

Keep hiding out there in Jersey, while guys like Wiggums protects you.

Your grandpa would be ashamed, btw, attacking someone because of an illness. Shameful.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
One of the worst threads ever.

PGreen711 wrote:
Now can someone please tell me what the fuck two faggots having gay butt sex has to do with the history of medicine??!?!?!?!?! If my professor has some sort of homosexuality fetish she needs to take it somewhere else. We’ve spent more time on AIDS and homos than on any other of the great epidemics combined including the Black Death, Pneumonia, Smallpox, etc.

It could have something to do with the fact that Bubonic plague and Smallpox is practically extinct now.

I didn’t type that paragraph sorry it came out yellow on the screen. I would be seriously embarrassed of myself if I had said the things the OP said. Just a quote that didnt show up right. You should read the original post and the rest of mine, they clearly contradict each other. Despite the mess up on the part of the thread it seems like you must be reading posts looking for minute points to argue with, rather than taking on someone’s substantive argument as a whole. I have trouble thinking you didn’t even read the OP if you didn’t realize that paragraph was a direct quote.

Being conservative is one thing, read a post by Zap or Hack Wilson, or others they are well reasoned conservatives.

Hack is such a farce that he probably can only be a made up internet personality (my suspect is Headhunter).
If my memory serves me right, Zap said once he doesn’t view himself as a conservative.[/quote]

No matter how big of a farce you say Hack is, he doesnt use near the language the moron that started this thread uses.

I don’t understand the dems on these threads. I’m pretty liberal, but by no means am I beyond saying conservatives make good points. I was simply suggesting that the kid that started this thread read some of Zap or Hack’s posts to see how he can be a conservative and not sound like a complete jerk in the progress. You need to start reading the threads you post on.

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[quote]PGreen711 wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
One of the worst threads ever.

PGreen711 wrote:
Now can someone please tell me what the fuck two faggots having gay butt sex has to do with the history of medicine??!?!?!?!?! If my professor has some sort of homosexuality fetish she needs to take it somewhere else. We’ve spent more time on AIDS and homos than on any other of the great epidemics combined including the Black Death, Pneumonia, Smallpox, etc.

It could have something to do with the fact that Bubonic plague and Smallpox is practically extinct now.

Being conservative is one thing, read a post by Zap or Hack Wilson, or others they are well reasoned conservatives.

Hack is such a farce that he probably can only be a made up internet personality (my suspect is Headhunter).
If my memory serves me right, Zap said once he doesn’t view himself as a conservative.

No matter how big of a farce you say Hack is, he doesnt use near the language the moron that started this thread uses.

I don’t understand the dems on these threads. I’m pretty liberal, but by no means am I beyond saying conservatives make good points. I was simply suggesting that the kid that started this thread read some of Zap or Hack’s posts to see how he can be a conservative and not sound like a complete jerk in the progress. You need to start reading the threads you post on.

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I didn’t type that paragraph sorry it came out yellow on the screen. I would be seriously embarrassed of myself if I had said the things the OP said. Just a quote that didnt show up right. You should read the original post and the rest of mine, they clearly contradict each other. Despite the mess up on the part of the thread it seems like you must be reading posts looking for minute points to argue with, rather than taking on someone’s substantive argument as a whole.

I have trouble thinking you didn’t even read the OP if you didn’t realize that paragraph was a direct quote.