Getting Ridiculous..Liberal College

harris447 · October 30, 2006, 1:14am

[quote]toughcasey wrote:
harris447 wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.

So…please tell us about t\when you made the momentous choice to be a heterosexual.

What? You say you were just born that way?

Huh. Interesting.

a creature with a firm grip on reality and the realization that in order to preserve the human race i must naturally pro-create? yes i was born that way.

homosexuality is a sexual deviation from what nature intended. there is a reason homosexuality is only found in humans. we are the only species that has the ability to rationalize our wrong choices and find other groups of people to make ourselves feel better about our radical behavior until it finally becomes a social norm.

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

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Do you even listen to yourself?

Homosexuality appears throughout the entire animal kingdon. Google ‘bonobo’. Or try giraffes. or penguins. Etc.

Second, as for this child’s mentality of morality you have: is killing an absolute right or an absolute wrong?

Killing another human being with premeditated malice aforethought: absolute right or absolute wrong?

Because one way, all of our soldiers are murderers and the other way, gacy got a raw deal.

Answer the question and then do some research on Erickson’s Theory of Moral Development

harris447 · October 30, 2006, 1:15am

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:
Sorry. I got carried away. I was just so disgusted with the whole homosexuality thing being thrown in my face constantly.

“Constantly”? Really? Like, 24 hours a day?

Or was it, in reality, just the one time in class when a teacher tried to…god for-fucking-bid…teach you something?

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

I know I wouldn’t call on you. Cuz, you kow, your debilitating “asthma” prevents you from doing anything but dipshitting up the interweb.

Asthma trumps cowardice, Harris.

Keep hiding out there in Jersey, while guys like Wiggums protects you.

Your grandpa would be ashamed, btw, attacking someone because of an illness. Shameful.

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Protects me from what? Liberal college professors. I’ll do all right on my own.

And my grandfather would have thought you were a coward just like I do.

toughcasey · October 30, 2006, 5:26am

[quote]harris447 wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
harris447 wrote:
toughcasey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Wiggum88 wrote:

I sure hope no one ever shows you a Good Times rerun; you might start screaming about the “niggers”, and then offer some lame excuse about getting sick of having the whole “black thing shoved in your face constantly.”

Uh, oh, Harris has called you a homophobe and a rascist which means …you’re probably neither.

See Wiggums, you’re supposed to be tolerant of ANY viewpoint, any lifestyle, any line of drivel; you should even be tolerant when a mugger wants to rob you! Afterall, muggers have to eat too! Be tolerant of those who call your country Nazi Germany reborn and you a baby killer! You’re an American so you are pure evil!!

You want to live?!? You’re intolerant!

But when morons like Harris and his ilk get in trouble or danger overseas, who do they call on to come rescue their sorry asses?

good point, he has a typical relativistic mind set, and i would be offended if i was black and someone compared me to a homosexual. people are born black, its not like they have a choice, the same can not be said about homosexuals.

So…please tell us about t\when you made the momentous choice to be a heterosexual.

What? You say you were just born that way?

Huh. Interesting.

a creature with a firm grip on reality and the realization that in order to preserve the human race i must naturally pro-create? yes i was born that way.

homosexuality is a sexual deviation from what nature intended. there is a reason homosexuality is only found in humans. we are the only species that has the ability to rationalize our wrong choices and find other groups of people to make ourselves feel better about our radical behavior until it finally becomes a social norm.

there must be an absolute right and wrong, to say there are no absolutes is in itself an absolute statement.

Do you even listen to yourself?

Homosexuality appears throughout the entire animal kingdon. Google ‘bonobo’. Or try giraffes. or penguins. Etc.

Second, as for this child’s mentality of morality you have: is killing an absolute right or an absolute wrong?

Killing another human being with premeditated malice aforethought: absolute right or absolute wrong?

Because one way, all of our soldiers are murderers and the other way, gacy got a raw deal.

Answer the question and then do some research on Erickson’s Theory of Moral Development
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animal homosexual myth de-bunked:

http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html

as far as your question about killing, there is an absolute right time to kill, and an absolute wrong time to kill. this is not relativistic because the term “killing” is so broad in the first place it can have millions of contextual meanings (this is however extremely fun to debate and very metally perplexing, i wish you were a little more open to a friendly academic discussion rather than an argument, but oh well).

The term homosexual only means one thing and can never be determined as absolutely right.

i can anticipate your counter argument as something along the lines of: “well you just made a relativistic statement by saying killing should be handled differently based on the situation”

this is however not relevant because using the example “killing” is as broad as saying “having sex”. two men having sex is wrong, killing someone in self defense is right. this is the way absolutes must be distributed.

Hack_Wilson · October 30, 2006, 12:44pm

[quote]tme wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
I understand your frusration. I think that aids can be summed up in this way:

If you (heterosexual or homosexual) engage in sex in which a penis is inserted into your rectum, you have a high risk of getting HIV/AIDS.

If you are an intravenous drug user (heterosexual or homosexual) and share needles with other intravenous drug users you have a high risk of getting HIV/AIDS.

If you do not do either of the above two things, you have a very low risk of getting HIV/AIDS. So low, in fact, that it’s not even worth talking about.

If anyone can offer anything to refute the above…well…it’s either made up or wrong or propaganda (i.e. all of the above). Period.

It absolutely amazes me that anyone can really be this fucking stupid and still breath without assistance. Wow.

So you can only get HIV/AIDS by taking up the ass or sharing a needle? Please, teach any offspring that you may have unfortunately produced this “fact”, cause Darwin wasn’t right either.

I’ve thought you were a fucking stump since you started posting (under this handle, who were you before?) but now you’ve proven it beyond all doubt. Thank you.

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Strong words. They actually hurt me. So tell me the truth then. That way, we’ll both know it, right?

Do some research and get back to me with the substantive percentages of people that contracted HIV/AIDS through means other than ‘sharing needles’ or anal sex.

Or…I can give you the numbers since I work in government I happen to have them handy?!

Or I can just let you believe what you want to believe. It seems to comfort you so let’s go that route.

Headhunter · October 30, 2006, 2:16pm

[quote]harris447 wrote:

Protects me from what? Liberal college professors. I’ll do all right on my own.

And my grandfather would have thought you were a coward just like I do.
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You reveal your ignorance over and over. Making statements about others about whom you know little is arrogant and ignorant.

Your grandpa lied to get in to the Army? Was he the last man in your family to have any balls? You’re young and college educated. Why not join up, instead of teaching kids you so obviously hate? Oh, wait, you have ‘asthma’. And all you CAN DO is HATE.

Someday, I hope we meet face to face. We can discuss my cowardice.

Hack_Wilson · October 30, 2006, 2:58pm

[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
tme wrote:

It absolutely amazes me that anyone can really be this fucking stupid and still breath without assistance. Wow.

So you can only get HIV/AIDS by taking up the ass or sharing a needle? Please, teach any offspring that you may have unfortunately produced this “fact”, cause Darwin wasn’t right either.

I’ve thought you were a fucking stump since you started posting (under this handle, who were you before?) but now you’ve proven it beyond all doubt. Thank you.

Strong words. They actually hurt me. So tell me the truth then. That way, we’ll both know it, right?

Do some research and get back to me with the substantive percentages of people that contracted HIV/AIDS through means other than ‘sharing needles’ or anal sex.

Or…I can give you the numbers since I work in government I happen to have them handy?!

Or I can just let you believe what you want to believe. It seems to comfort you so let’s go that route.[/quote]

I culled this information from a few sources in files on my desktop. You’ll find similar numbers, I’m sure, on the internet:

92 percent of persons known to have AIDS are homosexuals or intravenous drug users.

3 percent became infected through blood transfusions (most before blood banks began testing for the AIDS antibody).

1 percent are infants and children whose mother was infected

These figures leave 4 percent of known AIDS patients who became infected with the disease through heterosexual contact.

Most scientists agree that this figure is actually much lower and that the overwhelming majority in this group have engaged in homosexual sex or used intravenous drugs.

So let’s analyze the numbers a bit. 92 percent are in the category that I cited. Ah! But experts agree that this figure is acutally closer to 95%. Okay. Okay. But 1% are born with the disease. So our highest possible number here is 99%, since we are talking about HIV-free folks contracting HIV. 95 of 99 percent. With 3 percent of the available 4 percent attributed to transfusions performed before testing for AID antibodies was introduced. Research shows no instances of transmission from transfusions in the past 5 years. So that leaves, what? 1% are heterosexual non-intravenous drug users? Probably less? So…do you stand by this:

“It absolutely amazes me that anyone can really be this fucking stupid and still breath without assistance. Wow.”

Of course you do, fucko. You won’t let facts get in the way of your phoney outrage.

Hack_Wilson · October 30, 2006, 3:24pm

And let me say one more thing: Just because I cite stats that indicate HIV/AIDS affect homosexuals overwhelmingly compared with heterosexuals does not mean that I believe that ‘all fags should die’, or some such thing. I don’t.

You cannot point to one instance in which I’ve used the term or indicated that ‘hate’ gays, etc.

I’m simply saying something that happens to be, no matter how we want to wish it away or play with the numbers, TRUE!

The first part of attacking anything, be it a disease or a personal problem, what have you, is HONESTY! If you can’t clearly define boundaries and identify the problem, well, you are already behind in the game.

Numbers are numbers. They are not racist or homophobic. They are what they are. Reactions like THIS are close-minded. Not the people simply stating facts.

orion · October 30, 2006, 5:30pm

[quote]toughcasey wrote:

as far as your question about killing, there is an absolute right time to kill, and an absolute wrong time to kill. this is not relativistic because the term “killing” is so broad in the first place it can have millions of contextual meanings (this is however extremely fun to debate and very metally perplexing, i wish you were a little more open to a friendly academic discussion rather than an argument, but oh well).

The term homosexual only means one thing and can never be determined as absolutely right.

i can anticipate your counter argument as something along the lines of: “well you just made a relativistic statement by saying killing should be handled differently based on the situation”

this is however not relevant because using the example “killing” is as broad as saying “having sex”. two men having sex is wrong, killing someone in self defense is right. this is the way absolutes must be distributed.

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This is what I meant with noone uses moral absolutes anyway.

Some think they do, but then they have such a a clever casuistic moral system that in the end they might as well be moral relativists.

I do not even understand the need for moral absolutes. What could they possibly be good for?

Politically I understand the need, philosophically I do not.

PS: What do you mean by killing? Let us argue the meaning of the word “is” next…

PPS: Homosexuality can never be determined as absolutely wrong either, except you think there is a moral authority greater than us, which would explain your idea of “moral absolutes” and also be an attempt of judging other people because they do not adhere to the rules of your religion.

Hack_Wilson · October 30, 2006, 5:49pm

[quote]orion wrote:
toughcasey wrote: