Double Cream, 500 calories per 100ml. Stick 200ml of that in your protein shake and you’ve got 1000 extra cals. I do that 3 times a day and it’s working a treat.
[quote]sindri wrote:
this thread is great.
i only got the newbie tips working right now w/ oils in shakes/food.
if i could take down milk i would try that 1 gallon/day deal, but i cannot [/quote]
its literally impossible to eat at least 6 meals and drink a whole gallon right off the bat unless ur metabolisms already sky high. start slow with a half gallon or something like that.
another great tip thats worked pretty well is drinking straight up half-and-half. adding a scoop of protein into a qt of half n half is about 750 liquid calories. that is if u can stomach the flavor, i personally love it.
I have a half gallon of milk a day, I put some in my morning shake, the rest, I take the bottle to work and it sits on my desk. I have that in place of water all morning. Then in the afternoon I start on the nuts and raisin mix that is in a tub on my desk.
The only way I can get in the calories is by being surrounded by easy to eat food.
-tablespoons of ground nuts and seeds → less chewing → more stuffing
-tablespoons of olive oil
-tablespoons of fat-filled liquid goodness choice here
getting a lot of calories isn’t complicated, getting lots of calories with lots of fiber (50+ grams) from whole foods is much more annoying
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
There is not a person on this planet who enjoys eating 8k worth of food a day which is my goal.
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Oh god I would love to eat that much. Seriously. I don’t think I could eat that much without getting extremely fat though. I consider you lucky if you could do it. 6000k a day has always been enough for me. If you really can’t stand it why don’t you resort to fiberless food like pizza? Consuming that many calories + all the fiber would definitely be extremely taxing on the digestive system. Extra oil with with reduced fiber might make the extra calories easier to handle.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
If you’re a fan of nuts (I happen to love cashews), you can just sit down and not even realize how many you’ve eaten. A half cup of cashews has just under 400 cals, and you don’t even notice how quickly you just inhale that amount.
S
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Yup.
Even better,I bought a big 150g bag of Honey-roasted cashews.
Very moreish,and a lot more calories from the added sugar and honey.
I washed it down with whole milk,naturally,2 large glasses…
Problem with nuts is with a lot you poop out 25-35% of the calories that come from fat. At least I know that’s true with almonds, not sure, but I think it’s the same with most other nuts.
Though if you’re just eating a lots of nuts, it isn’t that big of a deal.
[quote]byukid wrote:
Problem with nuts is with a lot you poop out 25-35% of the calories that come from fat. At least I know that’s true with almonds, not sure, but I think it’s the same with most other nuts.
Though if you’re just eating a lots of nuts, it isn’t that big of a deal.[/quote]
what?
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
There is not a person on this planet who enjoys eating 8k worth of food a day which is my goal.
Oh god I would love to eat that much. Seriously. I don’t think I could eat that much without getting extremely fat though. I consider you lucky if you could do it. 6000k a day has always been enough for me. If you really can’t stand it why don’t you resort to fiberless food like pizza? Consuming that many calories + all the fiber would definitely be extremely taxing on the digestive system. Extra oil with with reduced fiber might make the extra calories easier to handle.[/quote]
sweet thanks man. Thats the kind of info I was looking for.
I do eat a lot…but with the life getting in my way, sometimes I fall short.
I was looking for some good ideas to make high calorie meals without having to eat a buffet every 2-3 hrs.
I know more calories = more food…but there are certain tricks like Olive Oil for example…you can get an extra 300-400 cals by taking several tablespoons after a meal or so.
Little things like that.
I’d like to think I know a LOT about eating/nutrition/lifting…but we can always learn…so I was seeing what other tricks there are out there.
Thanks for the help tho man. Appreciate it.
DG
[quote]byukid wrote:
My suggestions is to eat a whole pizza PWO. medium. add chicken, bacon, and veggies.[/quote]
That sounds so good. One time we made a pizza in class in high school, covered it with about 3 layers of cheese between 3 layers of meats interlaced. I think there were onions too…but that doesn’t matter!
Should be EASY cals. If not throw some butter or (healthy?) ranch or drizzle evoo.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
byukid wrote:
Problem with nuts is with a lot you poop out 25-35% of the calories that come from fat. At least I know that’s true with almonds, not sure, but I think it’s the same with most other nuts.
Though if you’re just eating a lots of nuts, it isn’t that big of a deal.
what?[/quote]
I too shit out lots of undigested nut chunks after a nut binge. I had cashew chicken last night and today I saw some nice big hunks of cashews as I admired my turd. Byukid is right.
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
Dirty Gerdy wrote:
There is not a person on this planet who enjoys eating 8k worth of food a day which is my goal.
Oh god I would love to eat that much. Seriously. I don’t think I could eat that much without getting extremely fat though. I consider you lucky if you could do it. 6000k a day has always been enough for me. If you really can’t stand it why don’t you resort to fiberless food like pizza? Consuming that many calories + all the fiber would definitely be extremely taxing on the digestive system. Extra oil with with reduced fiber might make the extra calories easier to handle.
sweet thanks man. Thats the kind of info I was looking for.
I do eat a lot…but with the life getting in my way, sometimes I fall short.
I was looking for some good ideas to make high calorie meals without having to eat a buffet every 2-3 hrs.
I know more calories = more food…but there are certain tricks like Olive Oil for example…you can get an extra 300-400 cals by taking several tablespoons after a meal or so.
Little things like that.
I’d like to think I know a LOT about eating/nutrition/lifting…but we can always learn…so I was seeing what other tricks there are out there.
Thanks for the help tho man. Appreciate it.
DG[/quote]
The way I see it is if obese people can do it then bodybuilders can too. The key is enjoying it. It has to be.
[quote]Ace Rimmer wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
If you’re a fan of nuts (I happen to love cashews), you can just sit down and not even realize how many you’ve eaten. A half cup of cashews has just under 400 cals, and you don’t even notice how quickly you just inhale that amount.
S
Yup.
Even better,I bought a big 150g bag of Honey-roasted cashews.
Very moreish,and a lot more calories from the added sugar and honey.
I washed it down with whole milk,naturally,2 large glasses…[/quote]
honey roasted cashews :O, where can these be found?
[quote]sindri wrote:
honey roasted cashews :O, where can these be found?[/quote]
Well,I bought mine from Marks & Spencer,their own brand (A British store over here)
But if you google it,you can find 'em online,unless anyone else knows a store that does 'em in the US?
Doesn’t Wal-Mart sell,like,everything in the world?
I make a high calorie shake that tastes like heaven.
1-2 cup Chocolate Calorie Countdown milk
1 serving natty PB
1 Scoop Grow! Whey
about 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream
600-700 calories
You could of course double this and get 1200-1400 calories. I’ve done it several times…just make sure to use a big enough glass, haha.
You could use whole milk instead because it has almost double the calories, but that chocolate calorie countdown makes is taste so delicious. It tastes like a peanut butter cup. Also, adding a banana makes it taste even better and adds 70 calories or so.
I haven’t read this entire thread, but instead of trying to increase calories, you could try simply moving less. its all about creating a calorie surplus after all, and that can be either eating more OR moving less.
park closer to the door, take the elevator instead of the stairs, rest longer between sets etc.
as far as food goes, simply insert calorie dense food in place of less calorie dense food. i.e. dried fruit & fruit juice instead of whole fruit, use full-fat dairy etc.
eating while distracted (watching TV for example) can be a good way to “sneak in” calories.
you can also set your watch to remind yourself to eat something every couple hours.
finally, aim LOW on the Satiety Index (found at http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/satiety_index.php )
foods that score high on this index fill you up faster, so aim low to gain weight. (i.e. choose white bread over potatoes)
Aren’t you also the guy who agreed with Berardi’s G-Flux principle?
Or are you saying the effect on your physique of eating a caloric surplus is the same whether you train hard or a “little less?”
moving around less (and therefore burning fewer calories) can be helpful in achieving a caloric surplus, in addition to simply eating more.
I guess I should’ve stated my question more clearly:
Do you think the effects on physique are the same so long as the differential in caloric surplus (intake - expenditure) is the same, regardless of the level of intake and expenditure?
Is there a difference between consuming 4500 cals and burning 3500 (1000 surplus) and consuming 3500 and burning 2500, assuming enough protein in both cases to fuel muscle-protein synthesis?
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I guess I should’ve stated my question more clearly:
Do you think the effects on physique are the same so long as the differential in caloric surplus (intake - expenditure) is the same, regardless of the level of intake and expenditure?
Is there a difference between consuming 4500 cals and burning 3500 (1000 surplus) and consuming 3500 and burning 2500, assuming enough protein in both cases to fuel muscle-protein synthesis?[/quote]
Hmnnn I don[t know if that’s overly simplistic or not. I mean, in my own experience, I’ll always adjust my diet instead of doing any cardio, simply rationalizing that the net of the caloric equation is what determines growth or loss. Still. I know that its not just cals in vs cals out… I’m sure there’s some individual differences involved. I know that it doesn’t take much cardio to really eat into my muscle mass, and as such try to avoid it as much as possible. Then there are folks who can do manual labor all day, still put in 2 hours with the weights each day, and continue to make gains despite a huge caloric expendature each day… Interesting question…
S